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[Xe4]

I know how the FCC has defined it, in practice. Bare female nipples are considered porn unless it belongs to an indigenous African woman. Bare buttocks and any exposed genitalia or pubic hair are porn. The act of sex is not porn if the above qualifications aren't met, which is why you can sometimes see sex scenes on tv. As long as theres no nudity shown, its not porn

But that falls apart very quickly. Under that definition, Game of Thrones is porn.

 

[Bluth54]

How would something like this even work? I assume it would have to be implemented on the OS level.

 

[Rival]

Once again the government is all over the sex while they could care less about violence.

 

[ZOONAMI]

Are they arguing that if I have to pay $20 for porn that I wouldn't shell out $100 for a prostitute? Or that I would just never be tempted to canoodle my noodle in the first place because I would not want to pay for either? Both situations sound ridiculous.

On the technical side, how in God's name would they enforce this? An honesty system? I'm sure folks will be as honest as teenagers are when they hit the "Are you over 18?" message on their favorite spank bank.

It isn't really impossible to implement. States would just have to be willing to do it. Website would track IP, say you need to have paid tax to access site, you would then login with the state ID you set up when you paid the tax, porn site would have to have access to state list and cross reference your email.

Yeah you could VPN around it and just have a foreign IP, but a lot of folks don't know all about that and would just pay the tax.

 

[Goro Majima]

On the technical side, how in God's name would they enforce this? An honesty system? I'm sure folks will be as honest as teenagers are when they hit the "Are you over 18?" message on their favorite spank bank.

Who even knows how this would work since you'd have to pay $20 to go on Twitter or post on Reddit since there's hardcore porn all over those sites.

 

[Maintenance]

Once again the government is all over the sex while they could care less about violence.

Isn't that exactly what the Republicans demonstrated last election?

You won't have our guns, but here, take our balls.

 

[FyreWulff]

How would something like this even work? I assume it would have to be implemented on the OS level.

it can't.

domain filter? porn sites would just provide randomly generated alternate domain names.
IP? proxy.

big sites like Reddit that have porn subsections use https globally now so you couldn't even tell which section you are on.

ISP level? lol no.

somehow make MS implement it in Windows? throw on Ubuntu.

 

[GaimeGuy]

It won't work because it's not a tax on goods or services, but an access fee in general for material of a particular nature. The government is saying "You can't view audio visual content in general without paying up."

That's a violation of free speech.

If they actually taxed pornography and used the money to fight trafficking, it would be a different

 

[perfectchaos007]

But that falls apart very quickly. Under that definition, Game of Thrones is porn.

That would be considered softcore porn, and its on HBO so they can show it. GoT would have to be censored on any regular or cable networks.

 

[Protein]

More like semen tax.

 

[ZOONAMI]

Who even knows how this would work since you'd have to pay $20 to go on Twitter or post on Reddit since there's hardcore porn all over those sites.

Yep the states would have to have a list of porn sites they target. Likely just the biggest well known ones would be affected.

 

[Angry Grimace]

This won't survive the supreme court and they know it.

But they will win points with their base for trying to "do something" about porn.

This is the 3d chess that keeps the GOP popular among conservatives: their theatrical game in on another level.

This is not going to be popular among conservatives. Why would you assume conservatives don't like porn?

 

[UrbanRats]

what if i get off on pictures of spaghetti

Food porn is porn.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

You wanna fight human trafficking? Start by being more leniant in immigration. Allow them to go to the police without fear that they'll be deported back into the hands of traffickers.

 

[Bluth54]

It isn't really impossible to implement. States would just have to be willing to do it. Website would track IP, say you need to have paid tax to access site, you would then login with the state ID you set up when you paid the tax, porn site would have to have access to state list and cross reference your email.

Yeah you could VPN around it and just have a foreign IP, but a lot of folks don't know all about that and would just pay the tax.

But this is apparently for new computers only so having some sort of state ID you login to a website with wouldn't really work.

 

[One Eyed Willy]

Will be much harder for Trump to find a new wife then.

Classy

 

[Professor Renegade]

America is weird af yo.

 

[perfectchaos007]

This is not going to be popular among conservatives. Why would you assume conservatives don't like porn?

Conservatives love porn, which is why places like Utah are the largest consumers. But, due to religious convictions, conservatives feel like they have to fight against porn even though they love to consume it. Its the same approach that led to prohibition.

 

[ChemicalCutthroat]

It amuses me that the one's that make the most use of prostitutes are the one's who are saying it's all bad.

 

[ZOONAMI]

But this is apparently for new computers only so having some sort of state ID you login to a website with wouldn't really work.

Ah so then it would have to be some kind of browser blocker built into new hardware you pay $20 to remove. I suppose they would make some money but a lot of people would find a way around it, clean install windows, maybe as simple as just using a different browser. I don't know if there are system wide blockers that would block domain names on any browser. And yeah porn sites would just get around this with different domain names.

 

[FyreWulff]

You wanna fight human trafficking? Start by being more leniant in immigration. Allow them to go to the police without fear that they'll be deported back into the hands of traffickers.

also stop increasing the punishments for being a prostitute. decriminalize that part and go after the johns.

so many frustrating occurrences where kids and women get trafficked and then they get fingerprinted and sent to jail for being a prostitute.. when they were forced to do it.... it's fucking insanity

 

[Angry Grimace]

Conservatives love porn, which is why places like Utah are the largest consumers. But, due to religious convictions, conservatives feel like they have to fight against porn even though they love to consume it. Its the same approach that led to prohibition.

I don't think that's true. It's a small minority of conservatives that care about this stuff and it's an actively stupid strategy that will never pass anywhere. There's a reason why all the dumb causes conservatives pay lip service to in order to get elected never actually go anywhere - because it isn't worth spending political capital on something you don't actually care about.

Prohibition was its own weird animal that was a product of the times.

 

[Zackat]

This is some Puritanical bullshit lol

 

[Stumpokapow]

growing criminal enterprise of sex trafficking.

is this true? my guess is that sex trafficking is actually probably lower than at any point in human history?

 

[Apathy]

This won't survive the supreme court and they know it.

But they will win points with their base for trying to "do something" about porn.

This is the 3d chess that keeps the GOP popular among conservatives: their theatrical game in on another level.

Funyn considering how much porn their base watches. hypocrisy is alive and well in red states

 

[Portugeezer]

Smartphones and computers will get $20 more expensive.

 

[Lkr]

Wait they think people are more likely to hire prostitutes if porn is easily accessible than if you force someone to pay a tax on it? That's fucking hilariously dumb

 

[Flying Toaster]

Porn tax revenue should go to something good like education or planned parenthood.

 

[NandoGip]

Jesus christ the disconnect never ceases to surprise me. These men are all liars too, theyre usually the worst of all

 

[Vicetrailia]

Funyn considering how much porn their base watches. hypocrisy is alive and well in red states

Republicans and hypocrisy go hand in hand.

 

[Moose Biscuits]

I think a better alternative would be to implement a percentage tax (like a sales tax) that's based on how much porn you buy. I would be glad to pay a percentage on the money I spend on pornography.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

is this true? my guess is that sex trafficking is actually probably lower than at any point in human history?

I am on phone so having difficulty finding the original source but I find a lot of government sites saying "Human trafficking is the world's fastest growing criminal enterprise, valued to be an estimated $32 billion-a-year global industry."

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ri/pr/...highlighted-during-national-slavery-and-human

Given population growth it makes sense that human trafficking grows.

 

[willy_2]

forcing manufacturers to install filters on all new devices will never work but it doesn't mean they won't try. i'm surprised no one has reported much on this when it's been in the works for years.

 

[Kurdel]

This is not going to be popular among conservatives. Why would you assume conservatives don't like porn?

Conservatives are less likely to like accept porn, and the religious base of the party will applaud any effort to curb it.

Did you actually think this wasn't a contentious issue for the american right?

 

[hydrophilic attack]

is this true? my guess is that sex trafficking is actually probably lower than at any point in human history?

What makes you think that?

 

[Extra Sauce]

Remind me to stop getting my mom to file my income tax return.

 

[The Real Abed]

They'll never tax the 12TB I already have. I'm prepared for the pornpocalypse.

 

[malfcn]

Republicnas sure love big government over reach

I always scratch my head in confusion when I hear about limited government, and then they propose shit like this.

 

[Sevenfold]

what would this mean for visitors

 

[Bay Maximus]

Porn is an unfortunate stain on society but one protected by the law nonetheless. No way this gets passed/enforced.

 

[Charcoal]

But i want my Pee pee videos for free

My man!

 

[Angry Grimace]

Conservatives are less likely to like accept porn, and the religious base of the party will applaud any effort to curb it.

Did you actually think this wasn't a contentious issue for the american right?

It isn't. It's just a thing they pay lip service to. Studies show that conservatives consume more porn than liberals do to begin with.

So the question is whether you think conservative leaders want to spend political capital on an obviously unconstitutional law that goes to an issue that conservative voters are only paying lip service to (not to mention that liberals and independents actively oppose it). There's an actual reason why the GOP hasn't passed much of anything despite having all 3 branches of government. You don't have the resources to simply pass anything you want on the grounds that you saw a poll that says your base doesn't like a Thing. Congress couldn't get rid of Obamacare despite it being deeply unpopular with their base and its repeal being the signature campaign promise of the entire party.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Have you ever paid for a prostitute?

Well, technically...Yes.

 

[ericexpo]

Makes no sense how would a computer tell difference between porn and anything else. Like so I have to pay for National Geographic to be unlocked or a Victoria's Secret catalog. Do I pay twice if hbo show has nudity.
Do furries pay for cartoons?

 

[Muppet of a Man]

Hmm...I'm getting vibes of the "War on Drugs" here. Unscientific correlation that makes zero sense, and if you follow the money, likely leads back to lobbyist in the religious and law enforcement realms.

 

[MsKrisp]

Disgusting that they would attach this to a real and serious problem just to push their moral agenda.

 

[Nickle]

This is how anime finally becomes popular in the West.

 

[I H8 Memes]

Conservatives are less likely to like accept porn, and the religious base of the party will applaud any effort to curb it.

Did you actually think this wasn't a contentious issue for the american right?

It's funny what conservatives say vs what they do because I'm pretty sure Utah leads America in porn consumption per capita.

These are the dark days I always knew would come. This is why I kept The Archive while you fools placed your trust in The Stream.

 

[SapientWolf]

Porn is an unfortunate stain on society but one protected by the law nonetheless. No way this gets passed/enforced.

The porn industry (for the most part) is a stain but porn itself doesn't necessarily carry any baggage.

 

[brokenbeans]

My VPN says no