http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...secutor-buenos-aires-bomb-alberto-nisman-iran
Wow. He was supposed to show the evidence today in front of the congress.
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Argentinian prosecutor who claimed cover-up over 1994 bombing found dead
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...secutor-buenos-aires-bomb-alberto-nisman-iran
Wow. He was supposed to show the evidence today in front of the congress.
Today? holy shit!.
I think he went on record saying that he knew he was going to end up dead for this or something D:
The Smoking Bun
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Using the rules of probability, one of the many conspiracy theories had to be true I guess
JoJoShabadoo
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Pretty big deal over here.
It was going to happen one day
zomgbbqftw
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Waiting for Kirchner to claim it was British agents from the Falklands who did it to make her look bad.
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Tallshortman
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Wow I really hope the evidence he was going to give is presented, I would assume he left it somewhere other than at home or the office if he were concerned for his safety.
What a disgusting attack.
What a disgusting attack.
Ether_Snake
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There is a LOT of anti-semitism in Argentina, I wouldn't be surprised this was a locally planned act, although it's always possible others were involved.
Edit: Wikipedia article makes it unclear who was responsible, but the government sometimes openly accused Iran.
Edit: Wikipedia article makes it unclear who was responsible, but the government sometimes openly accused Iran.
Coriolanus
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It is a mix of corruption and incompetence with sprinkles of persecution complex and dashes of botox.
Iirc Nestor's first term was sorta good, especially compared to the shitfest that happened before him. Menem times were cray. His wife, tho? lol. Maduro levels.
JoJoShabadoo
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I'm sure the evidence conveniently disappeared as well...
speculawyer
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This is very interesting. I will be following this story. Especially after the Hebdo massacre, this is a bad-time to be caught covering up terrorism.
Tallshortman
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Also I never realized President Fernandez tried to form a joint investigation with Iran, what the hell? That's literally the same as if the US accepted NK's offer of a joint investigation of the Sony hacks.
:lol
I don't remember the last calm week in Argentina. there's something terrible happening all the time
This takes the prize, tho, plain incredible
Is that related to all the Nazis who fled to South America after WW2 or for some other reason?
Where do you get that there's a lot of anti semitism in argentina?
I mean who even needs fiction novels at this rate.
I mean who even needs fiction novels at this rate.
Jag
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Any idea why?
Yeah I want to know too. I have only been here for 2 years so far but I had the impression of it being the other way around. I've met a lot of jews here
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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oh wow, that certainly won't raise any eyebrows
TAJ
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A conspiracy just takes two assholes. They happen every fucking day. The stigma around the word is so weird.
Wait til' you hear how this connects to ancient egypt, crop circles and a mayan god!
Yeah there's nothing suspicious about this at all
Kurt Russell
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I'd say it's more about vocal minorities and not really a LOT of anti-semitism in Argentina. Kids these days think it's cool to be nazi (yep, believe it or not, we've arrived to that level of craziness) and they show how cool they are by trash talking about israeli people. Of course there's also adults who do the same stuff, but they aren't the majority of the country either. Forums are full of anti semitism because of those reasons.
Sgt.Pepper
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He went as far as to say he might die before presenting the evidence. Which makes me think he had already transferred it to somewhere safe, I hope, for the sake of all of us.
viciouskillersquirrel
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My brother and sister in law live in Buenos Aires. He hates Fernández with a passion, but he's also somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan politically, so I feel that he isn't the best source of information.
He rants incoherently about it, but I have to say I'm stunningly ignorant on Argentine politics, so I have no idea how much of what he talks about are paranoid screed and how much is true. Anyone Argentinians able to summarise the current situation?
He rants incoherently about it, but I have to say I'm stunningly ignorant on Argentine politics, so I have no idea how much of what he talks about are paranoid screed and how much is true. Anyone Argentinians able to summarise the current situation?
Which of them?
The Hermit
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I livre in Brazil but my whole family is from Argentina. There are many pro-kirchner that say this guy is crazy including my brother.
To me and my parents its clearly a murder, but I don't think we'll ever know the truth.
The president is deluded old lady. she lives in an alternate world where everything is going ok in Argentina
that's about it
viciouskillersquirrel
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So what's going wrong right now?
What I mean is what political parties are involved here? What are their underlying philosophies, who are their interested constituents? What about that financial crisis that happened not that long ago? How has that affected the landscape?
Obviously there is a lot of ground to cover, but it would be nice to get a little more context.
lolwut
There's too much stuff going on, I wouldn't even know where to start. When I first came here, I thought she was alright but man, she has clearly lost it.
Cristina published a letter in her facebook: https://www.facebook.com/notes/cris...sión-mentira-e-interrogantes/1014136438614222
:lol is she really blaming Clarín? Incredible.
:lol is she really blaming Clarín? Incredible.
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There are a lot of Jews in Argentina, so as always people attack them as a result. Politically of course people will say they are like a lobby, so there are a lot of political-related attacks.
During the "dirty war" there were disproportionately high numbers of Jewish casualties.
One of the alternate locations that were considered as a new home for Jews other than Israel was Patagonia, so there is a lot of stupid conspiracies about this (when there was a forest fire in 2012 caused by an Israeli, people said he did it on purpose).
When I was in Fitz Roy, the only time I saw a signage written in Hebrew was one saying not to leave litter. Why only this sign and not the others in the park? Even if a lot of Israelis visit Patagonia after their military service, it seemed like it was saying that they are disproportionately responsible for most of the trash, there were stars of David on the sign and all.
Also, Kirchner is very close to the Jewish community, so people who oppose her (or Nestor) easily target this relation. I've seen more than once people claims Kirchner is Jewish, but I never saw any proofs of that and the Wikipedia entry makes no mention of it, so I presume people make this up.
Basically just Google it. But there is a lot of it throughout South America, it's just that there are particularities in Argentina that probably make it worst (at the same time, maybe having a bigger community still makes it safer than being a Jew in other South American countries).
edit: BTW here's an old glowing review of Kirchner on her electoral victory by Jerusalem Post, it also makes numerous mentions of the Kirchners formally accusing Iran of being responsible for the bombing: Argentine, US Jews applaud as Argentina elects Kirchner
Let me tell you a cool story about a guy named Vince. Or was it Alberto?
I get this reference.
Kurt Russell
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The financial crisis is still ongoing, but nobody talks about it as much as they a few months ago. The main problem is that we don't really have other political parties, if you look at the coming elections, the only ones who have real chances of winning are also Peronistas, so they will probably continue with a lot of the same stuff. I don't really have any hopes of us making it out of the crisis, when Nestor Kirchner took over the presidency he did a lot of things right, but then Cristina started her own work and now we are here. I'm not even sure if we are in a better shape than with Menem, for example, it's just that there's a lot of people involved with her party, so nobody wants to do anything for fear of losing their jobs or whatever stuff they are involved with.
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-not his gun, an aide's
-no gunpowder in hands
-the bodyguards were to pick him up at 11, yet when no one answered instead of entering the building they went to get a family member and took 8 hours before forcing the door.
-time of death is sometime between noon and 15.
-service door was unlocked
-not his gun, an aide's
-no gunpowder in hands
-the bodyguards were to pick him up at 11, yet when no one answered instead of entering the building they went to get a family member and took 8 hours before forcing the door.
-time of death is sometime between noon and 15.
-service door was unlocked
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i'm no gun nut, so is there any way someone can shoot themselves without ending up with traces on his hands?
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only if they either use a laser gun from the land of tomorrow or if they're such compulsive cleaners that they wiped/washed their hands shortly before passing away.
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