DeafTourette
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Ariel cast in live action Little Mermaid Movie
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DeafTourette
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DeepEnigma
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Her hair style reminded me of Twi’lek lekku. Thought it was obvious.
WinterIsComing
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1. The quoted poster called people racist because, as you explained, "He's talking about the posts (thankfully only a few) saying her hair looks ugly.".
Either it's also racist for a black guy to say a white woman has ugly hair, or double standards.
2. I agree, the same way it makes no sense to call for cultural appropriation when a white woman has dreadlocks
guggnichso
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Bunch of grown up men in this thread getting their panties twisted because a black chick was cast in a kiddy movie.
12Goblins
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You're doing good! Now it's time to figure out why there's a double standard!
You're doing good! Now it's time to figure out why there's a double standard!
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kunonabi
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Ariel reaction after reading Resetera thread on the same topic
SJWs have been shitting on Ariel hardcore for a long time now. If you thought all the extra feminist stuff added to previous remakes was bad just wait till they "fix" this one.
lock2k
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Why Keira Knightley Won't Let Her Daughter Watch 'Cinderella'
The actress spoke about parenting her 3-year-old daughter, Edie.
True.
5secondrulesucks
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woke ariel is going to wear a murphy brown woman business suit underwater
DeafTourette
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I thought you were talking about her eyes. Some think they're too far apart but I think they're fine for her face.
1. I've NEVER heard a black man call a white woman's hair ugly ... It's usually the opposite on both ends.
2. I think most non-white folks are offended when a white person locks their hair because it isn't the same as when a black person does it. If a white person washes their locked hair, it comes undone. So there's a smell associated with a white person with locks. When a black person washes their locks, the locks stay put and the hair doesn't smell bad. It isn't the same process for locking.
DeepEnigma
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Nah, her eyes are fine. I don’t think she is ugly at all.
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Slings and Arrows
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I'm still laughing at McCheese's joke. I've been laughing all day.
OT: I don't care what colour she is. I just wanted to see a hot red-head take on Ariel. Imagine if Jessica Rabbit was changed?
Maybe this is the Disney equivalent of the Tifa issue?
OT: I don't care what colour she is. I just wanted to see a hot red-head take on Ariel. Imagine if Jessica Rabbit was changed?
Maybe this is the Disney equivalent of the Tifa issue?
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lock2k
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5secondrulesucks
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petran79
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Lets see them try casting a white lead in Blade
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Squeenix made Tifa Asian looking after the main game though. With every game outside the terrible fighting game nobody is playing , they made her face look less like the original. She still at least has the same hair color?I'm still laughing at McCheese's joke. I've been laughing all day.
OT: I don't care what colour she is. I just wanted to see a hot red-head take on Ariel. Imagine if Jessica Rabbit was changed?
Maybe this is the Disney equivalent of the Tifa issue?
Zangiefy360
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Cultural appropriation only counts when it's whites "taking" the parts of minorities. Got it.
Disney is going to have some tough decisions, will the Ariel's out there (for example at the ride at Magic Kingdom) have their skin painted to reflect Black Arial? How about in future Kingdom Hearts games?
Anyway, I'll pass on this and stick to the cartoon. Loved the cartoon as a kid, but clearly Disney's desire for woke points outweighs their desire to be true to the source material.
Disney is going to have some tough decisions, will the Ariel's out there (for example at the ride at Magic Kingdom) have their skin painted to reflect Black Arial? How about in future Kingdom Hearts games?
Anyway, I'll pass on this and stick to the cartoon. Loved the cartoon as a kid, but clearly Disney's desire for woke points outweighs their desire to be true to the source material.
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Schrödinger's cat
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We all know why there's a double standard.
Being evasive doesn't suddenly make a double standard any less duplicitous, it just adds dishonesty to it.
Your anecdotal take doesn't remove the double standard.
Your prejudice and projection are showing.
Please don't try to justify this garbage with some more projection and prejudice.
Just do the test, always do the test:
Swap the words around. If you feel differently about what it says then you have your answer.
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Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Holy shit lol
Texas Pride
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I mean if we're doing this shit then I look forward to a movie about Tupac played by Channing Tatum. White folks playing other races causes a problem but the reverse doesn't. Maybe the folks bitching aren't the ones who are racist they just see the blatant double standards.
lock2k
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Just imagine...
Tupac and Notorous B.I.G. the movie...
Starrring Harry Styles and Jonah Hill. lmao
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GermanZepp
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Texas Pride
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Just imagine...
Tupac and Notorous B.I.G. the movie...
Starrring Harry Styles and Jonah Hill. lmao
Apparently there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's fucking stupid but that's just me. If folks can't look at this logically and see why this is an issue before crying racism then ya can't be helped imo.
DeafTourette
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Ariel isn't real.
Tupac was.
Why is it when this topic comes up, someone always brings up a real person being played by another race.
Ariel is fictional.
lock2k
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ExpandKong
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Then Blade.
Or Black Panther.
Or any other example of a fictional character you could’ve come up with on your own.
lock2k
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I would watch the fuck out of that because it would be so funny seeing him perform as Tupac.
Schrödinger's cat
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Unless a film biopic is going to be 100% accurate to real life in every single regard then your argument falls over.
None of it is actually real.
Also, there was a guy who won an oscar recently that portrayed a real person despite being a different nationality to them.
Funny how not a single person had an issue with it.
When Cate Blanchette portrayed Bob Dylan in the "I'm Not There" biopic, did you have an issue with this not being an accurate reflection of a 'real person' because of a mismatched immutable characteristic?
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Once again, the double standards and prejudice are front and centre.
I'm fine with this, because as the mountain of double-standards grows ever higher, the easier it is to identify the social grifters that rely on them.
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Chittagong
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I knew she was going to be black before I clicked the thread
Representation, inclusivity efforts and all that
Representation, inclusivity efforts and all that
game_nomad
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I am not in the States and I try to stay away from the whole wokeness political thing, but all this is some hilarious shit
thequestion
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This whole experience, with Ariel, feels like Disney wanted to go on a fishing expedition. If they dropped in on this thread, they would quickly realize, they’d need a bigger net.
Ya’ll just made a list in a google database.
Change to popular, established characters is a good thing. It shows growth and tolerance, as a society.
For example, In the next Spider-Man movie, Peter will be in a love triangle with his much older boyfriend, and Doctor Octopus, who is a Trans. It will be a great film filled with action and contemporary romance we should all relate to, and enjoy.
There will always be detractors who allow fear to fill their hearts, but
hopefully, by the time: Spider-man: Homerun, hits theatres, you will all fall in line.
Ya’ll just made a list in a google database.
Change to popular, established characters is a good thing. It shows growth and tolerance, as a society.
For example, In the next Spider-Man movie, Peter will be in a love triangle with his much older boyfriend, and Doctor Octopus, who is a Trans. It will be a great film filled with action and contemporary romance we should all relate to, and enjoy.
There will always be detractors who allow fear to fill their hearts, but
hopefully, by the time: Spider-man: Homerun, hits theatres, you will all fall in line.
DeafTourette
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Vin Diesel would actually work since he's mixed... You thought he was white?
Noboru Wataya
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kunonabi
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I refused to see Aguaman because of the Mamoa casting. Of course, I also think he's a freaking terrible actor to boot. Didn't matter to anyone else because nobody cares about Aquaman.
DeafTourette
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Your post is riddled with assumptions of what I have seen, know and agree or disagree with.
Never seen the Bob Dylan movie
Have no idea what actor and movie you're talking about
Also, were you ok with Angelina Jolie playing a real life light skinned black woman?
And so what if the biopics aren't 100% accurate. They were still real people. So no, your argument falls to pieces there
Mihos
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Bailey
Berry already made her woke contribution when she took cat woman.
Who knows, maybe it will work out. Like with Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury, or Idris Elba as Heimdall
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lock2k
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No, but does he look standard black as Blade does? Hell no. In Brazil we don't have one drop rule so he is neither white nor black to me. He is mixed. A third "race" if you will. Looks completely different when compared to Blade. Just goes to show how this whole concept of race is stupid.
Schrödinger's cat
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No, it takes your rhetoric and applies it uniformally rather than selectively.
I merely removed the prejudice.
Ignorance is not an excuse.
Excusing yourself from having to address a counterpoint means you've evaded it, not addressed it.
I'm OK with a lot of things. I want the best placed, most viable, best performing person in the post.
I don't care about easy optics and superficial championing.
I'm old and cynical enough to know when a corporation is patting me on the back with one hand, whilst the other hand is reaching for my wallet.
Things I'll never be OK with:
Hypocrisy, double-standards, prejudice, dishonesty, bullies.
Au contraire, if you're OK with them being about real people and not being 100% accurate ..
.. then then you just defeated your own point about real people being needed to be accurately portrayed.
Congratulations, you just disproved your own point.
And proved my point about prejudice and double-standards instead.
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DeafTourette
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Elizabeth Warren for Pocahontas!!
My best friend is biracial (white mom, black dad) but looking at her, you'd think she was either JUST white or native Latina. And Vin's father is black.
guggnichso
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Mermaid is obviously a protected race or something lol.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Ok. You win. Don't agree with anything you said but you win. I don't do constant back and forths. Enjoy, hoss.
ExpandKong
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Shit I’d rather have Sam Jackson as Ariel. If you’re gonna go woke go wide fucking awake.
“YOU WANT THINGAMABOBS? I GOT TWENTY MOTHERFUCKER!”
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Schrödinger's cat
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I really don't see conversations in the context of 'win' and 'lose'.
I've raised contextually valid points that have not been addressed - just evaded instead.
Rather than look at this exchange to better appreciate how such rhetoric perpetuates double-standards and prejudice, you've chosen to duck out of any sincere engagement and still choose to assert that I must be wrong regardless.
I'm sorry to say I recognise this behaviour all to well.
Da-Kid
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You just witnessed some Olympic levels of logic gymnastics. No one with common sense blames you for quitting.
lock2k
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See, that's another misconception.
I am latino, but I'm white. There's a whole concept of latinos being tanned or whatever, but it's not a standard look at all