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Assassin's Creed II - The |OT|
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zerokoolpsx
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Yes you can always come back, even after beating the game. I got all my feathers, and Auditore Cape and platinum. Very fun game. If you need to see how many feathers are left and from which city and district. It's in your DNA option.TheSeks said:
Cool. Met Mario (It's-a Me! *groan*) and got some weapons, finally starting to feel like Alitair again, just need the cape.
I'm really digging all the new things they added. Notorious being one. Removing the posters (-25%), killing the cops (highest one to do -75%) or bribing the news people (-50% but lose gold
). All are varied. Very nice.
Seems I suck with the PS3 controller in multi-person battles at times, can't get through them without being hit once or twice. Ugh.
I'll be getting the feathers and those box thingies that I've seen once I've gotten further/nearly done with the game. IIRC, AC1 had a few feathers that only unlocked later in the game, so I want to make sure they're all unlocked and easy to get to before I do them.
I'm really digging all the new things they added. Notorious being one. Removing the posters (-25%), killing the cops (highest one to do -75%) or bribing the news people (-50% but lose gold
). All are varied. Very nice.Seems I suck with the PS3 controller in multi-person battles at times, can't get through them without being hit once or twice. Ugh.
I'll be getting the feathers and those box thingies that I've seen once I've gotten further/nearly done with the game. IIRC, AC1 had a few feathers that only unlocked later in the game, so I want to make sure they're all unlocked and easy to get to before I do them.
Sevket-Erhat
Member
And trust me it has one of the best endings in video games
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Sevket-Erhat said:
AC I and II are the best examples of video game endings making you want the sequel with extreme fervor.
Except MAYBE Kingdom Hearts secret endings..
CoffeeJanitor
Member
I'm really trying to get into this game, guys, I really am, but god, this story is seriously getting on my nerves. I just don't give two poops about it! How long is my hand going to be held for?
(Note: I just got into the first area, in Spain or whatever)
I'm trying to be patient but I hate having to sit through dialogue/cutscenes. Does it get any better?
(Note: I just got into the first area, in Spain or whatever)
I'm trying to be patient but I hate having to sit through dialogue/cutscenes. Does it get any better?
DualShadow
Member
CoffeeJanitor said:
The start is a bit slow but it picks up after that.
And Spain? :lol
Superior versionseat said:
Is this true? Anyone able to verify it?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-04-ubisoft-kills-always-on-pc-drm-report
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-04-ubisoft-kills-always-on-pc-drm-report
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Sorry, didn't play the first one....Dudes look Spanish that were around me.DualShadow said:
And yeah sorry....I'm not big into huge stories in games, more the actual game part but that's another topic entirely.
I'll definitely log a few hours in tonight.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Seriously, what the fuck? Shitty ass level design where in the fucking third mini mission in the game you have to race your brother, with no fucking tutorial on how to fucking climb and shit, and really, don't even try to beat him unless you go and check out a guide that shows you you're supposed to ignore his ass and take a shortcut straight to the building ahead. Every other game, EVER, you follow the character in a sequence this close to the beginning, you get taught how to do the critical jumps needed to beat that character (I didn't play the fucking first game, assholes!!) and there's no way this early on that he's supposed to be fucking Usain Bolt of parkour when you don't even know how to properly jump around. To top this garbage, on the frickin restart (cause there's literally no way you beat him the first time you play this), HE HAS A HEAD START ON YOU. He's already at the top of the first building, he won't make a mistake, and you ain't catching his ass unless this is your third playthrough of the game and you have mastered the touchy parkour physics.
/rant
/rant
Unregistered007
Banned
I bought this game again when it was on Sale for 15 on boxing day. Awesome Game...
PjotrStroganov
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Ranger X said:
Like a nancy pants.
It's a bleeding parcour game. I'd be climbing stuff from the start.
brownfedora
Member
Just finished and felt the need to chime in.
This game is in the upper-echelon of games this generation and needs to be played. If you have half a brain, you can piece together the story without playing the first game.
This game is in the upper-echelon of games this generation and needs to be played. If you have half a brain, you can piece together the story without playing the first game.
Ranger X said:
No, it's definitely a slow start. Like I'm sure there's actually zero fucking reason I needed to be a baby. I mean, at all. It tells me absolutely fucking nothing and without context pushing buttons is meaningless. And the point it comes in at the game ("WE HAVE TO ESCAPE!!! but be a baby for a sec lol") makes the scene even more fucking ridiculous.
And so far it feels like I'm on John Marston's ranch. Yeah, I get it. I can run around rooftops. It's awesome. Now can I please get to the reason why I bought this game?
Dreams-Visions
Member
QFT.Sevket-Erhat said:
just amazing. that and "The Truth" fuck with my mind today. "What if?"
but bro...it's a game where your DNA contains memories. MEMORIES. in the DNA. the premise alone is lol. just gotta go with it.AniHawk said:
Dreams-Visions said:
I understand there's a lot of disbelief to suspend here, but the way the early part of the game was structured was seriously fucking stupid.
I didn't need to play as a baby because they dumped me into a fight scene kinda quickly right afterward. Then they go ahead and tell me I'm going to be a great assassin. So they start me off in a fight against Douchebag McGee (which I thought was a dumb name for an antagonist, but whatever), which at that point was like the second or third tutorial. And like, the part I'm at right now, when I'm about to be taught how to "survive" seems like it would have been a much better starting point if they wanted Desmond or whatever his name is to learn the ways of a master assassin.
Basically, the storytelling has made for bad design so far.
The baby is like 1:30 mins. Desmond part is like 10 mins. Sequence 1 (most mission are tuto-like missions) lasts for like 20 mins. You can't be 2-3 hours into the game complaining it's slow. It might just not be the game you thought it would. Also, the game is story based, that and the point of the game is not Assassinations. There are like 8 assassinations in the game, it's just one aspect of it all. If you don't want to know what's up about a part of Ezio's life, you might not want to play this game.
I beat it this weekend and thought it was dramatically better than the horrible original game.
The beginning is super slow, however I did enjoy most of it.
I could careless about Desmond and friends, but that portion doesn't last very long. And once the training wheels come off, the game really does pick up for Ezio, who's revenge quest is a joy to play out.
Overall though, the story is pretty poor. That ending is a complete cop out of Soul Reaver proportions. I mean, what the fuck was that? And that glyph video? Give me a break; or better yet give me more story involving Ezio because that shit was interesting and made sense.
Note to Ubisoft Montreal: if your lead character and Nathan Drake are asking WTF questions as part of the narrative, what chance do the players have to know the hell is going on?
Having said that, I do plan on checking out Brotherhood sometime soon. So I guess that weakass ending served its purpose.
The beginning is super slow, however I did enjoy most of it.
I could careless about Desmond and friends, but that portion doesn't last very long. And once the training wheels come off, the game really does pick up for Ezio, who's revenge quest is a joy to play out.
Overall though, the story is pretty poor. That ending is a complete cop out of Soul Reaver proportions. I mean, what the fuck was that? And that glyph video? Give me a break; or better yet give me more story involving Ezio because that shit was interesting and made sense.
Note to Ubisoft Montreal: if your lead character and Nathan Drake are asking WTF questions as part of the narrative, what chance do the players have to know the hell is going on?
Having said that, I do plan on checking out Brotherhood sometime soon. So I guess that weakass ending served its purpose.
Ranger X said:
Well I'm more into it now and aside from some touchy controls and a camera I need to babysit, it's really picked up. I wasn't expecting little platforming dungeons, so those were a great surprise. And renovating my city is sort of a guilty pleasure. Aside from that, the actual assassination things and various weapons are pretty good.
Anyway, the point about the start of the game isn't just that it's super slow, it's that it's also extremely and unnecessarily repetitive. If UbiSoft wanted this to be a game set in Renaissance Italy, they should have made a game set in Renaissance Italy. If they wanted a Da Vinci Code video game, they should have cut out the repetitive early stuff. It does not take 20 minutes for
Ezio's family to die. Not at all.
Yeah, it wouldn't hurt the game to cut out a lot of that nonsense. The beginning of the game was a grind.
Stilworthit, though. It just has moments, if you know what I mean. Like when you're scaling a building that towers above the city, and you stop to look over it as the amazing OST plays. For a moment, it's like you're there. It hits a certain note that no other game does, and it's fucking great.
I haven't played the expansion pack yet, but I can't get excited about a new sassin's creed until they overhaul the tedious combat. It's so boring that I started to just run from enemies so I wouldn't even have to bother with it.
Stilworthit, though. It just has moments, if you know what I mean. Like when you're scaling a building that towers above the city, and you stop to look over it as the amazing OST plays. For a moment, it's like you're there. It hits a certain note that no other game does, and it's fucking great.
I haven't played the expansion pack yet, but I can't get excited about a new sassin's creed until they overhaul the tedious combat. It's so boring that I started to just run from enemies so I wouldn't even have to bother with it.
I finished this just recently having never played the first game. I enjoyed the core gameplay but I thought it got pretty repetitive after a few hours, I had to ration myself to short bursts of playtime otherwise boredom quickly set in. The environments were beautiful but personally I think it had one of the worst stories of recent years. I would have been fine with a 15th century Da Vinci Code, but this combined way too much science-fiction with it and it spoiled the whole thing. Being booted out to Desmond was a chore every single time. I don't see why they couldn't just keep the games locked to their time period and just have a 3rd game where you play as Desmond in a modern AC setting, rather than dropping into his warehouse every hour or so.
Boombloxer
Member
Snuggler said:
You'd like Brotherhood.
I loved 2, and brotherhood basically refines the mechanics further. The crossbow is a win button, though.
Although if you didn't get touched in 2, I can't imagine that changing in Brotherhood. Once you get the hang of it, you are unstoppable.
And this is still one of my favorite games. I remember after I got the last trophy, I just stood in the courtyard of the Villa, looking over the countryside, listening to the soundtrack. That was the best way to end it.
Can't wait for AC3.
That seems like a common problem in all of the Assassin's Creed games so far, and II is no exception; stealth is not essential unless forced upon by a mission. Whether it's Altair, Ezio, or Desmond, combat becomes a nuance rather than a challenge rather quickly into each game. Brotherhood is particularly guilty of this, between the new combo system, the crossbow and your ephemeral ninja followers, there's no reason not to strut your way through the latter part of the game unhindered.
Because of the visual charisma alone, I'd have to say II was my favorite. As it's been said before, Venice is far better looking (and more diverse in landscape) than anything else in the AC world. Brotherhood's Rome was bland and rushed, though not as monotonous as the cities in the first AC. Each one looked a little different, but within the city walls it was all one big blur save for a few landmarks.
If only they could ramp up the difficulty in places, or make combat more of a last resort, rather than easier as they did with Brotherhood.
Because of the visual charisma alone, I'd have to say II was my favorite. As it's been said before, Venice is far better looking (and more diverse in landscape) than anything else in the AC world. Brotherhood's Rome was bland and rushed, though not as monotonous as the cities in the first AC. Each one looked a little different, but within the city walls it was all one big blur save for a few landmarks.
If only they could ramp up the difficulty in places, or make combat more of a last resort, rather than easier as they did with Brotherhood.
Clever Pun
Member
AniHawk said:
I just started playing last weekend, and I completely agree. Once they did the blending into the crowd tutorial, it really started to pick up. I've done 2
tombs
black_vegeta
Member
I'm almost at the end of the game. I have to. Collect the rest of the codec pages before starting sequence 14.
14 more pages to go.
14 more pages to go.
Well that was a pretty big turnaround from my initial impressions. I don't love the game, but I was in awe of a lot of it. Despite the muted color palette, it's very beautiful, and it all seems to build to Venice being this incredible thing.
It was a game I appreciated more as I kept playing. I think it's super repetitive, but for some reason, always satisfying. I played for about 20 hours, and despite the architecture looking the same, combat being pretty much the same all the time, and the platforming being pretty much the same bag of tricks until 70% into the game, it's not frustrating or annoying. And that's even taking into account some weird control stuff (especially when it came to the B button) and a not-okay camera.
The only part of the story I liked was seeing historical figures. I think everyone learned about the Medici in school, but I didn't know about the assassination/attempt. Stuff like that was kinda cool. Plus, just being in Renaissance Italy was a real great change of pace for settings for a video game. Being able to climb pretty much everything was really awesome.
And that brings me to the tombs. Those were the highlight for me. Going into this game, I had no idea that it would have little platforming dungeons like that. Great surprise.
I don't have a desire to jump into the first game or Brotherhood right now, but I'll probably be ready for Assassin's Creed III, depending on the setting.
EDIT: Oh, and one last thing, the music in Venice was great. The music was nice throughout the game, but Venice in particular was wonderful.
It was a game I appreciated more as I kept playing. I think it's super repetitive, but for some reason, always satisfying. I played for about 20 hours, and despite the architecture looking the same, combat being pretty much the same all the time, and the platforming being pretty much the same bag of tricks until 70% into the game, it's not frustrating or annoying. And that's even taking into account some weird control stuff (especially when it came to the B button) and a not-okay camera.
The only part of the story I liked was seeing historical figures. I think everyone learned about the Medici in school, but I didn't know about the assassination/attempt. Stuff like that was kinda cool. Plus, just being in Renaissance Italy was a real great change of pace for settings for a video game. Being able to climb pretty much everything was really awesome.
And that brings me to the tombs. Those were the highlight for me. Going into this game, I had no idea that it would have little platforming dungeons like that. Great surprise.
I don't have a desire to jump into the first game or Brotherhood right now, but I'll probably be ready for Assassin's Creed III, depending on the setting.
EDIT: Oh, and one last thing, the music in Venice was great. The music was nice throughout the game, but Venice in particular was wonderful.
Am I the only one that almost immediately changed the language settings to Italian? The English dubbing with "hey let's throw in a few words of Italian dialect to remind the audience that this isn't in America" really annoyed me, although now, as a consequence the introductory non-Italians in the real world are all Italian too.
Why can't developer's have a "let's have people of certain dialects speak in their own language" option? The game has full English and Italian dubbing, so it shouldn't really be all that hard.
And yes, I'm absolutely nit-picking because otherwise, this game is fabulous so far. I can't wait for a Mirror's Edge/Assassin's Creed cross-breed. They both have their strengths and weaknesses in their platforming.
Why can't developer's have a "let's have people of certain dialects speak in their own language" option? The game has full English and Italian dubbing, so it shouldn't really be all that hard.
And yes, I'm absolutely nit-picking because otherwise, this game is fabulous so far. I can't wait for a Mirror's Edge/Assassin's Creed cross-breed. They both have their strengths and weaknesses in their platforming.