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Assassin's Creed: Shadows | Review Thread

What scores do you think Assassin's Creed: Shadows will get?

  • 65-69%

    Votes: 7 2.5%
  • 70-74%

    Votes: 14 4.9%
  • 75-79%

    Votes: 38 13.3%
  • 80-84%

    Votes: 133 46.7%
  • 85-89%

    Votes: 77 27.0%
  • 90-94%

    Votes: 12 4.2%
  • 95-100%

    Votes: 4 1.4%

  • Total voters
    285
  • Poll closed .

Windle Poons

Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Does anyone actually think reviews of this game will be honest? It's all going to be "Ubisoft had so much courage to tell the stunning true story of the black samurai Yasuke"

After Dragon Age: The Veilguard, who's ever going to take "professional" game "reviewers" seriously ever again?
Any review's that comes out with this should we take 5% off the score they give? Or more?
 

DrMano

Member
And this has been their largest issue in the past 2 generations that they seem to keep doubling down on. 80 hours. 100 hours. 200 hours. DLC making it more. Maps filled with hundreds of icons that overwhelm and overload the player. It’s like they can’t help themselves but continue to bloat and bloat and bloat their big franchise games because they feel that every game they make needs to be a “forever game” that should take you weeks, months, or more to finish.

And these aren’t even MMOs, which I would be more forgiving of if they were because then I could talk to and interact with other people. Most of their huge map games don’t contain good enough social features or no social features at all, so they feel even more empty and bloated because of that.

If this AC game might fail in sales, the wrong lessons are going to be learned from that failure and they will instead make a narratively ‘safe’ entry next, and then they’ll double down harder with 250 hours of repeated content because they think you’ll want even more to grind. But at least the safe narrative will be a nice pat on the back for themselves as they tell everyone ‘we have gone back to the basics with our story’.
I cringe at the thought of being in the heads of Ubi and imagining what lessons they learned or didn't learn.

....Yikes *Shakes head*
 

DavidGzz

Gold Member
Does anyone actually think reviews of this game will be honest? It's all going to be "Ubisoft had so much courage to tell the stunning true story of the black samurai Yasuke"

After Dragon Age: The Veilguard, who's ever going to take "professional" game "reviewers" seriously ever again?

You can always stick to the few reviewers that your tastes align with, who you also trust.
 

DrMano

Member
Does anyone actually think reviews of this game will be honest? It's all going to be "Ubisoft had so much courage to tell the stunning true story of the black samurai Yasuke"

After Dragon Age: The Veilguard, who's ever going to take "professional" game "reviewers" seriously ever again?
People call me a conspiracy theorist (A term coined by the CIA) when I say that every single piece of "Mainstream Media" you consume is pre-curated from the same pipeline; regardless of your political spectrum....Then you see shit like this and people cover their eyes and ears.
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Honestly the reviews will be inflated and despite that I am predicting 80-84%.
Game journos would rather lose their jobs, than ever stop being political. At least they're getting their wish in a rapid pace.
 
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Boss Mog

Member
games "journalists" will most likely give it an 80-84 average just because they went with Yasuke. I feel gamers won't be as generous though. Gamers who have been waiting almost 2 decades for an AC set in Japan won't be happy to see how they disrespected Japanese culture with so many inaccuracies and by adding Chinese elements as if the two cultures were interchangeable.
 

Peroroncino

Member
People call me a conspiracy theorist (A term coined by the CIA) when I say that every single piece of "Mainstream Media" you consume is pre-curated from the same pipeline; regardless of your political spectrum....Then you see shit like this and people cover their eyes and ears.
t9UKBNd.png

bruh xd

This is like the fakest shit ever. It "leaked" after the reviews came out, you can see the cursor in the upper left corner of the doc, which means it's editable lol, nobody would share a legal document like that. LSM as company doesn't accept review copies, this was accepted by MrMattyPlays YT channel, not LSM (which is not registered "under Patreon" lmao, it's CLS LLC, a business entity registered in the state of Virgina), San Francisco is spelled wrong... like, brother, what are we doing here.
 
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geary

Member
games "journalists" will most likely give it an 80-84 average just because they went with Yasuke. I feel gamers won't be as generous though. Gamers who have been waiting almost 2 decades for an AC set in Japan won't be happy to see how they disrespected Japanese culture with so many inaccuracies and by adding Chinese elements as if the two cultures were interchangeable.
Those gamers that rate it low only base on Yasuke skin and "they disrespected muh Japanese culture hur dur" are in the same bucket with the journalist who praise the game on the courage of putting a black man in Japan as MC.

Both view are stupid and both should focus on the game (game world, quests, side quests, mechanics, progression, combat, weapon variety, animations, graphics, artstyle), not on political stands.
 
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Regginator

Member
Seeing as how Origins was 85, Odyssey was 84, Valhalla was 83, I expect Shadows to be 82. It looks like a careful evolution of Valhalla, which was a careful evolution of Odyssey, which was a careful evolution of Origins.
I'd be very surprised if it ends up being much better than any of those. I think it this released 10 years ago, when people were actually gooning for an Assassin's Creed set in feudal Japan, it'd review like crazy. But now, lower 80s (or even upper 70s, but that's a little unlikely) is all I see for it.
 

Thief1987

Member
bruh xd

This is like the fakest shit ever. It "leaked" after the reviews came out, you can see the cursor in the upper left corner of the doc, which means it's editable lol, nobody would share a legal document like that. LSM as company doesn't accept review copies, this was accepted by MrMattyPlays YT channel, not LSM (which is not registered "under Patreon" lmao, it's CLS LLC, a business entity registered in the state of Virgina), San Francisco is spelled wrong... like, brother, what are we doing here.
That "document" is obviously silly fake, but you can't deny that tons of reviews used exactly same talking points praising this game.
 
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Ceadeus

Member
The gameplay looked better than anticipated, it could be the best creed yet. But I can only buy 1 game on March 20th and it's gonna be Xenoblade Chronicles X 🤩

I voted 85-89. Almost clicked 90-94! I think people might get surprised
 

Peroroncino

Member
That "document" is obviously silly fake, but you can't deny that tons of reviews used exactly same talking points praising this game.

That's because reviewers talk with each other, that isn't exactly a secret, they have groups where they gauge the temperature of their peers and exchange notes. This isn't a conspiracy, but standard practice, also a reason why so many reviewers often parrot the same phrase, like "it makes you feel like a spiderman" from the top of my head. Just like we parrot "writing feels like HR is in the room" - you see something you like and you appropriate it for your scribbles.

Now, SHOULD they do that? No, it makes them all look dumb, but it's not exactly a secret and it's far from a conspiracy. Even youtubers do that, skill-up mentions it from time to time in his content.
 

Dr. Suchong

Member
My brain can't comprehend how anyone could get excited for yet another Assassins creed game, but if people enjoy them, then who am I to argue?
I'd say a solid 7 to 8.
I think most of Ubisofts output is solid, the mechanics are usually pretty fun, but they lack any sort personality.
It's like "Huh, another Ubisoft game.."
When it should be "Wow, cool! Another Ubisoft game!"
It's kind of sad.
 

TrebleShot

Member
We asked for this type of Assasins Creed game a decade ago, the fact that its now here and no one gives a shit really does tell us a story.
I think it will be okay and nothing more.

£15 pump n dump on UBI pass.
 

Bernardougf

Member
The game is probably a 6 .. +2 points for fighting racism, plus inclusion.. so 8... +1 if the male protagonist is also gay.. in that case I expect a lot of 9s

One way or another .. one more game you just cant thrust reviewers... is only fuel for cultural/social war and discussion.. as they wanted of course
 
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RafterXL

Member
People call me a conspiracy theorist (A term coined by the CIA) when I say that every single piece of "Mainstream Media" you consume is pre-curated from the same pipeline; regardless of your political spectrum....Then you see shit like this and people cover their eyes and ears.
t9UKBNd.png
Veilguard was dogshit, the reviews were 100% coordinated and scores were juiced, but this document was proven fake the minute it released.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
games "journalists" will most likely give it an 80-84 average just because they went with Yasuke. I feel gamers won't be as generous though. Gamers who have been waiting almost 2 decades for an AC set in Japan won't be happy to see how they disrespected Japanese culture with so many inaccuracies and by adding Chinese elements as if the two cultures were interchangeable.
You can see by them releasing on Steam without Ubisoft Connect that they are trying to stack it as much in their favour as possible.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Karak Karak I know you probably can't talk about it yet, but since it's not related to the story or any major story events and stuff...

Does the Japanese VA have its own lip sync or is it a Japanese VA with English lip sync? The reason I'm asking is cuz they mentioned that we really should play the game with Japanese VA for more authentic and better immersion, but if lip sync is not matching Japanese VA... well, it's not more authentic and better immersion then, is it?
 

Boss Mog

Member
Those gamers that rate it low only base on Yasuke skin and "they disrespected muh Japanese culture hur dur" are in the same bucket with the journalist who praise the game on the courage of putting a black man in Japan as MC.

Both view are stupid and both should focus on the game (game world, quests, side quests, mechanics, progression, combat, weapon variety, animations, graphics, artstyle), not on political stands.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
bruh xd

This is like the fakest shit ever. It "leaked" after the reviews came out, you can see the cursor in the upper left corner of the doc, which means it's editable lol, nobody would share a legal document like that. LSM as company doesn't accept review copies, this was accepted by MrMattyPlays YT channel, not LSM (which is not registered "under Patreon" lmao, it's CLS LLC, a business entity registered in the state of Virgina), San Francisco is spelled wrong... like, brother, what are we doing here.

Colin was pissed when that was made up and called it out right away:


 

GymWolf

Member
If Rise of the Ronin was a 76, this looks like it should be 86 minimum.

Due to grifters and the drama, I am guessing 78-80.
Why? Shadows has better stealth but Combat in ronin look order of magnitude better and i don't really expect shadows to have a better plot or less shitty open world minigame activities.

Is it just for the production values?
 
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This is fair especially when you look at the time spent. I get shit sometimes for disliking a game in ways(Far Cry 6 is a good one) where I felt it was tragically flawed in many ways. BUT A normal person may play say 4 hours and say...damn I don't get it. But ultimately MAY after 8-10-20. So I totally get that. I do admit I thought its flaws, its sheer issues, were noticeable pretty quickly. Its one reason why I try to cover a game from a newcomers standpoint AND a returning fan. Cause both can be true.

Odyssey I liked a great deal. Probably based on 3 things.
Writing was a bit more enjoyable for me.
Less bugs than I had with Origins( which means gameplay and story can be experienced with out as many bumps and stops and starts)
A unique location I never expected. There is a LOT to say for discovery.

Shit sorry for the double post. I thought I hit the right button.
Odyssey was my fav AC by far.
 

Peroroncino

Member
Karak Karak I know you probably can't talk about it yet, but since it's not related to the story or any major story events and stuff...

Does the Japanese VA have its own lip sync or is it a Japanese VA with English lip sync? The reason I'm asking is cuz they mentioned that we really should play the game with Japanese VA for more authentic and better immersion, but if lip sync is not matching Japanese VA... well, it's not more authentic and better immersion then, is it?

Doesn't look like it:




There's a few convos in the video, it looks like hit or miss? Could be the video's fault too.
 
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EN250

Member
This game is getting 8s and 9s all over the place from reviewers for it's unprecedented amount of diversity and inclusion, its quality could be dogwater for all we know, but it compensates all with "oWnInG tEh cHuDz" 😂
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
This game is getting 8s and 9s all over the place from reviewers for it's unprecedented amount of diversity and inclusion, its quality could be dogwater for all we know, but it compensates all with "oWnInG tEh cHuDz" 😂

Nice to know people have already made up their minds to dismiss good reviews.
 

EN250

Member
Nice to know people have already made up their minds to dismiss good reviews.
Not people, just me 🤷‍♂️

It's an AC game, it'll sell millions like any other game from the series and it'll have an inflated review score dismissing any flaw because the character skin color is more important than the sum of its parts
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Doesn't look like it:




There's a few convos in the video, it looks like hit or miss? Could be the video's fault too.

Oh, that's actually not that bad, could be better, but not bad at all👍:messenger_grinning:

******

On a side note.

Just played AC Origins again for a bit. You know what, for a 7 yo game it's looks great on PC all maxed out @4K and I will even argue that almost on part with recent open world games without RT. It took me 88 hrs to finish the main game, all quest and all of the DLCs, there's timed quests of course but they don't count. I'll try to stick to the main story in Shadows for as much as possible to see if there's level gating and stuff like that to force you to complete side quests and such like in Origins and all other games after it.
 
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It will get a 90, and if you preordered it, a 100. Jokes aside, this is their swan song (although I'm quite sure regardless of what happens guillemot will sell the franchise to tencent), so it better be good. Didn't preorder mirage so I did with this one, let's go
 
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