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assuming PS3 WILL do the Killzone 2 Graphics. what future do you see for X360?

I think the market would pretty much stay the same as it is right now if ever Sony deliver their promises for next gen 100%. I doubt it would render the 360 to oblivion but there would be people crying within Microsoft.
The other way around, it could be very interesting. I would really see a market splitted into 2. Half Sony half Microsoft with a Sony leading in Japan and Microsoft in the US.
 
I see a quick and swift death. :P j/k.

Either way I don't see the market changing that much. The situation in Europe is almost as bad for Micrsoft as it is in Japan...and I seriously doubt they're going to be No. 1 in North America.
 
A good one. I still don't see enough to expect Microsoft to defeat the PlayStation brand, but the 360 is still impressively powerful in its own right. Their Live services intrigues me, and in the console world at least, there is no real competitor. Long argument short, look at the kind of promises Sony made this time around. Ambition is usually good, and it's good to see Sony have it, but they're promising so much that we've heard before when it didn't happen last time. Remember the PS2 surfing the web through a Netscape browser? http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2001/5/16-150 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember all that happening, or at least getting any market acceptance.

And 'Dreamcast' gets used like liberal in politics; it's a curse word more than an identifier. If it's a successful Dreamcast II, why would that be a bad thing? I would be honored to have one in my home next year if it turns out that way. That was a capable, forward-looking machine; and the Xbox 360 has what the Dreamcast didn't: EA support and the money to back it in the face of Sony. It may well be the Dreamcast we all wished for.
 
nitewulf said:
not really, unless you cant differentiate between say 4000 and 40.
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It depends on how you look at it I guess. The difference between the PS2 and Xbox in Europe is actually bigger than the PS2 and Xbox in Japan. But the Xbox has managed to sell more than a million in Europe also, which it hasn't in Japan.
 
what will you think of Xbox 360 ?

DreamCast 2?
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You think that EA is going to drop 360?

Heh.

Dreamcast was a very unique situation. Sega had bled so badly after 32X and Saturn that they only would have stayed in the business if Dreamcast had been a HUGE hit. The system actually sold fairly well (especially considering there was no Madden), just not well enough to save Sega as a hardware vendor.

Sega/Dreamcast in 1999 and Microsoft/360 in 2005 are so different that the apples/oranges metaphor applies.

Try again, fanbot.
 
llTll said:
1- True. thats why i never said Xbox 360 to die like Dreamcast, just being underdog like DC was

2- shenmue :( snif sniff. what you said is true, but still 1 game and 2 wont stop a perfect launch. MGS2 and FFX Never did

3- i wasnt counting how many Xbox Live users. DC online was free for many games including the first phantasy star online


wont comment after 2006? why? because you cant say MS will drop the price again and there wont be halo 4 for sometime?
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Are casual gamers really going to put that much stock into graphics?

It's been proven (I think, not neccesairly true, just IMO), that the game that flaunt graphics and not much else sell. But the games that have the graphics and gameplay are the ones that sell like gangbusters anyway, and are seen as such.

I think, eventually, casual gamers will want the gameplay over graphics. I mean, PDZ could be a bit underwhelming graphically but if the gameplay is out of hand, then you know, there's something good to work on.

Also remember, yeah MS is somewhat of an underdog I agree, but you have to realize Sega was driving themselves to debt many times over while MS, well... you know their situation. Virtual unlimited in capital?
 
Are casual gamers really going to put that much stock into graphics?
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Casual gamers aren't going to even notice on their 480i interlaced TV sets. If there's any substantial difference between the two (and the jury hasn't even convened on that matter), it's only going to be noticed by the typical consumer on HDTV sets. Large HDTV sets. And most people don't have them.
 
I don't think it would change much if the PS3 were indeed that more powerful.

Microsoft will be dishing out for exclusives just as Sony will,the market is big enough for both these huge fish,and in the end consumers always want the next big thing to play. Look at GTA-it looks like total shit but the game is a huge hit with the masses,power didn't have much to do with the PS2's success.
 
llTll said:
actually i wasnt.

i always thought when someone say for example Xbox is 1.5 more powerful than PS2 means the xbox is 0.5 has extra power ps2 doesnt

so when somene say 2x more powerful means that 2 PS2 = 1 xbox
and when someone say 1.5x more powerful means that 1 ps2 + half ps2 = xbox


same thing i was thinking when you say it in percentage too :/
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Kill yourself. NOW.
 
I think Xbox360 will do fine (as fine as Xbox1) simply because the market can support 2 or more consoles. And Nintendo has clearly conceded the second place.

If MS gets desperate, they can go alot of them (gimmicks) that Sony is unwilling to do. For example, letting people rip CD and DVD into the xbox, let people trade files (movies) over the XBL network etc.

I don't believe in the "MS gets it right the third time" saying any more. WinCE/PocketPC has had more than 3 trys and it hasn't "gotten it right." IE destroied Netscape in its third try but got surpassed by Firefox again. If Xbox2 is a mediocre product, it will stay there as part of Microsoft's portfolio, just like MSN the ISP.
 
tino said:
I think Xbox360 will do fine (as fine as Xbox1) simply because the market can support 2 or more consoles. And Nintendo has clearly conceded the second place.

If MS gets desperate, they can go alot of them (gimmicks) that Sony is unwilling to do. For example, letting people rip CD and DVD into the xbox, let people trade files (movies) over the XBL network etc.

I don't believe in the "MS gets it right the third time" saying any more. WinCE/PocketPC has had more than 3 trys and it hasn't "gotten it right." IE destroied Netscape in its third try but got surpassed by Firefox again. If Xbox2 is a mediocre product, it will stay there as part of Microsoft's portfolio, just like MSN the ISP.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 
Speevy said:
I see the threads getting dumber as Microsoft's system launch approaches.
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you have to take into account the poster's history, it's pro sony, hence the stupidity of making this thread. Look at mine, I'm pro MS, however, I don't go and make threads that read 360 is more AMAZATRON than PS9!! SUCK IT KEN!!!. That is the difference, his poor trolling made him look foolish.
 
Speevy said:
I see the threads getting dumber as Microsoft's system launch approaches.
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No...the overall intelligence level dropped to abysmal levels in the weeks directly preceding and following E3.
 
Lo-Volt said:
And 'Dreamcast' gets used like liberal in politics; it's a curse word more than an identifier. If it's a successful Dreamcast II, why would that be a bad thing? I would be honored to have one in my home next year if it turns out that way. That was a capable, forward-looking machine; and the Xbox 360 has what the Dreamcast didn't: EA support and the money to back it in the face of Sony. It may well be the Dreamcast we all wished for.
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dreamcast is dead - stop assuming that a microsoft product couldbe a dreamcast 2 in either way.
 
assuming PS3 WILL do the Killzone 2 Graphics. what future do you see for X360?
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Well, since graphics don't mean anything, I think the X360 will know at least an Xbox-level of success. Because. Microshit has so much money, they can make it work. Xbox wouldn't have been so successful if Microsnort didn't pump so much cash into it (which eventually made them lose about 3 billion dollars :lol). It's going to be hard to take chunks off of Sony's territory (but I'm sure you already knew that).

I really don't know what to think. I do think that a downright flop of the Xbox 360 is unlikely, but the possibility is always there, as it is for any console (but knowing Microshaft.. it's more likely to happen to the Xbox than to any other console!! :lol :lol j/k j/k).

So I think Killzone 2 graphics for PS3 aren't going to effect popularity by that much. It's all about the games.
 
Ruzbeh said:
Well, since graphics don't mean anything, I think the X360 will know at least an Xbox-level of success. Because. Microshit has so much money, they can make it work. Xbox wouldn't have been so successful if Microsnort didn't pump so much cash into it (which eventually made them lose about 3 billion dollars :lol). It's going to be hard to take chunks off of Sony's territory (but I'm sure you already knew that).

I really don't know what to think. I do think that a downright flop of the Xbox 360 is unlikely, but the possibility is always there, as it is for any console (but knowing Microshaft.. it's more likely to happen to the Xbox than to any other console!! :lol :lol j/k j/k).

So I think Killzone 2 graphics for PS3 aren't going to effect popularity by that much. It's all about the games.
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Microsoft name editing jokes... that's almost as hilarious as Nick Cannon.

And he's hilarious....
 
Yes, yes, Japan is what really matters and Xbox 360 will fail because there's no earthquake survival simulator coming out for it.

Happy now, OP?
 
Microsoft's entire identity with the Xbox brand is that it offers the most capable hardware--but in terms of graphcis and functionality. Atleat as it stands now, the Xbox360 will not have the advantage in neither category over the PS3, that leaves Microsoft in a very tough position.

But headstarts, specs, exclusive titles blah blah...What I believe will ultimately determine how close, or not close the next generation console war is will be the pricing. The PSP revealed that even the almighty Playstation brand can't make consumers oblivious to high prices. I say $349,99 or under and its a wrap, put Sony's name on the trophy and begin the race for 2nd place. But if we're looking at a $400 or $500 PS3 I picture things being very very close, and in THAT instance the headstart may actually make a difference.

I went through 3 PSXs and 3 PS2s, I'll go ahead and gamble away $300 or $350 at launch, but if the system goes above $400 I may have to do some serious thinking.
 
No matter what the perceived visual capability of the PS3 is, the X360 should have no problem matching it, IMO. How this is in serious question, I just don't know.
 
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