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August Wrasslin |OT| The Sunday of Summer

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Ithil said:
Nikki Bella is not Brock Lesnar.
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Correct. Nikki is a far better and dominant champion than Brock was.

Liquidsnake said:
I love comments like this from people new to GAF trying to make some kind of reputation. If anyone is being truthful, no one would back this up. And I have heard from enough people who have been successful in the business who all know that Ric is GOAT, and its not even close. I trust them more than a comment like this.
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Yes, someone who doesn't think Ric Flair is the GOAT must be some new guy trying to make a reputation. Even though anytime Flair comes up, half the people posting have similar opinions that he's not GOAT, sometimes not even great, and once in a while not even good. There is nothing edgy or attention grabbing about thinking Ric Flair isn't the best ever in 2015.

It's not a surprise at all that most of the people in wrestling that say he's the best ever became fans of wrestling seeing Flair, or made the most money in their career with Flair. Flair was great. He's nowhere near greatest.
 
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MC Safety said:
The new Total Divas was amusing, although it's clear they've stopped collecting vignettes that may be at least partially unscripted for wholly plotted storyline segments.

The Bellas delude themselves into thinking they can sing, Paige tests her boyfriend with the aid of Rosa Mendes and then is surprised when her boyfriend gets mad, and Natalya Niedhart goes through a mid-life crisis. Oh, and Tamina gets in a bar fight.
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Meh. That could be true!

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Nikki & Brie ‏@BellaTwins Aug 26

When you are succeeding, everyone will talk about you and your success. Good or Bad. Don't believe everything you read.

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adam cole ‏@adam5975 2h2 hours ago

@BellaTwins sucking cena's dick doesn't count as being successful

But it sort of kinda is... you know.
 
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jmdajr said:
Hmmmmmmmmm

edit: Punks Reign was 434 days
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Forgot it was that long, but I want the guy to have a decent run, I don't see Sting winning and we still haven't seen him vs HHH, that would be a good time to turn Rollins face or keep him tweener.
 
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a true legend
 
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I Wanna Be The Guy said:
You mean the women who can wrestle?
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You mean wrestle to the high standard of AJ Lee?

Must the women choose to only be a wrestler and nothing more? Some people don't want them to go beyond and help spread awareness about WWE through something like Total Divas because that doesn't appeal to the demographic they're in. They want to only focus on wrestling when that's only a fraction of what being an employee of WWE is about. The supposed supporters of the Divas Revolution can't see the forest for the trees.
 
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Oh how handy. Cageside Seats compiled a summary of the Ric Flair vs. Highspots case. Despite the length of this summary, I assure you that it is merely one lawsuit against Flair. There are many others.

While still in WWE, Flair sunk a ton of money into "Ric Flair Finance," where the "Figure Four Process" would help you secure a loan better than any stupid bank could. I swear I'm not making this up. This was on top of a whole lot of alimony to his ex-wives, past tax issues that Vince McMahon bailed him out of (which he may not have paid back), etc.

After Flair did his retirement match with WWE at Wrestlemania 24 in 2008, he got so many lucrative offers for appearances that WWE wouldn't let him do that he asked for and was granted a release from his contract. The original plan had been for him to stay on in a goodwill ambassador role. At the time, it seemed like the right move since WWE was willing to take him back when he was done.

In addition to a deal with Coca Cola where he would speak at corporate events, he put himself out on the open market to independent promotions, legends convention promoters, etc. His fee was $10,000 per appearance plus a airfare for him and his assistant and he got plenty of takers. A refundable $5,000 deposit was due when confirming the booking. A company willing to pay $50,000 would be able to record and release a Flair "shoot interview DVD."

It's unknown if any other bids came in, but Highspots got the interview in a deal where they paid $100,000 for the interview and discounted appearances. The shoot interview DVD set was released several weeks later after editing several hours of footage that repeated content from Flair's book. With so much money invested in the project, a Highspots representative went on a popular wrestling DVD trading forum to say that they know that copies of their interviews being ripped and traded around is inevitable, but that they really need people to avoid it this time. The administrators of the forum then officially banned (open) trading of the set.

After Ring of Honor got TV on HDNet, they decided to bring in Flair as "ROH Ambassador." The logic was that he was a big enough star that they might be able to syndicate their TV show internationally, plus they'd get discounts for using Flair's son Reid and giving him a good learning environment as a wrestler. Not long into that run, WWE came calling. They wanted Flair involved (in a non-wrestling role) in the Chris Jericho vs legends feud that led to a gauntet match at Wrestlemania 25. As a condition of this, he cancelled his ROH bookings. He never refunded the deposits for the cancelled bookings, though. Meanwhile, Reid was arrested for heroin possession.
Highspots eventually loaned Flair money for reasons known only to them. $31,000 and $35,000 in separate transactions. Flair put up his original "domed globe" NWA World Heavyweight Title belt as collateral.

As a way of paying back the loans, Flair made two appearances and did a shoot interview DVD ("Roundtable with Ric Flair and Roddy Piper"). Highspots claimed that he still needed to make one more appearance to pay back the $31,000 loan reimburse them the cost of the photos used at the appearances, and pay for the marketing materials used to promote the appearances. The $35,000 loan was considered unpaid and owed in full plus interest.

When it became clear to Highspots that they weren't getting any more of their money back, they announced that they were auctioning off the NWA belt. Flair's lawyer asked for a 48 hour extension from Highspots, which he got, but he didn't pay up. Highspots then proceeded to announce that the belt was for sale and that only offers of $75,000 or more would be considered. It's believed that they had a concrete offer for that figure before making the official announcement.

It was then learned that Highspots couldn't sell the belt because Flair had already put it up as collateral for a (properly filed) loan from Conbraco Industries Inc., a plumbing and heating valve company. Yes, really. In addition to the belt, collateral used to get the loan from Conbraco included a replica WCW belt, Flair's wrestling gear, his WWE Hall of Fame ring, the Rolex watch inscribed with "To Be The Man" that Shawn Michaels gave him, framed magazine covers featuring Flair, an autographed Michael Jordan poster, an autographed posted of Flair and Vince McMahon, "a framed, personalized Kevin Green jersey," "commercial claims arising from a previous lawsuit Flair was involved with," and other "proceeds and products."

A few weeks later, Dave Meltzer reported that Conbraco is owned by a good friend of Flair, with the loan being done "partially" because Flair wanted to get those items away from his wife, who he was separated from at the time. Apparently, Flair was approached by a fan in one of his robes at an appearance and the fan explained that he had bought it from Flair's wife.

Meanwhile, Flair came out of retirement to wrestle Hulk Hogan on the Hulkamania Tour in Australia.

Flair signed with TNA and appeared on their infamous live January 4th, 2010 show that
aired opposite Bret Hart's return to WWE on Raw.

ROH sued Flair a month after that since he never refunded their deposits and they felt the TNA deal meant he never would. The case is still pending.

When asked if Flair would be at his next convention, Legends' Fanfest promoter Greg Price told a story about how Flair held him up for more money in 2009.
Highspots (finally!) sued Flair three months after that.

A few months ago, Flair threw a tantrum and wouldn't get on the TNA tour bus when he was refused an advance during a European tour. He ended up sleeping in some guy's house in Dublin, Ireland for a few days before being brought back on the tour since he had been advertised prominently, upsetting the many wrestlers who were glad that someone put him in his place.
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Please note that somewhere along the way, Reid Flair was arrested for heroin possession.
 
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On this special day we can remember Scott Steiner's Rick Rude story where he went up to Flair backstage and said, 'Why are they giving you the title? You look like shit' straight to his face
 
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Hidden One

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Vince McMahon said:
Welcome. The CM Punk fans were terrible and have moved on to being Walking Dead stans so you'll be happier here.

I'll give you a good Punk jiff.

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iirc the 2 PPVs they let Punk Mainevent on had the highest ratings :p. All the Cena mainevents were poop.

Also us Punk fans are still running wild :p
 
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Charlotte's ex-boyfriend didn't pull punches either:

Officers found Ric Flair, his daughter Ashley Fliehr and an unidentified 22-year-old man. Sources tell Eyewitness News the three were involved in a fight that left the former pro-wrestler bloodied and bruised.
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This is like some bad karma to see Flair being the real life version of "Randy the Ram". Dude needs to learn from Steamboat when to have some sort of dignity.
 
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dream said:
Who can forget the time Ric Flair attended the Gathering of the Juggalos only to leave because a juggalo threw a bottle at him?
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Or the plane ride from hell:

He wore nothing but a jeweled cape, the flight attendants said, and "flashed his nakedness, spinning his penis around." He separately grabbed each woman's hand and placed it on his crotch, and then "forcibly detained and restrained" Doyle "from leaving the back of the galley of the airplane while he sexually assaulted her."
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Or the time that he tried to beat up Eric Bischoff at Raw and no one even noticed:

I was sitting on the phone on this conference call, Ric comes in and is literally challenging me. I was looking for the camera because it didn’t make any sense. I really felt, well, wait a minute, am I in a segment that someone forgot to tell me I was in? Is this a rib? What the hell? So there was a moment of real confusion on my part.

I was sitting in a chair as he yelled, “Get up, get up get, I’ll kick your @ss,” or whatever he said, I don’t recall. I honestly was sitting in my chair on the phone carrying on a conversation and the people on the other end of the phone were hearing this. They asked, “What’s going on?” I said, “Don’t worry about it, it’s Ric.” (laughs)

Then it became obvious to me it was far more serious than I initially thought it was. I think Ric took a punch or two, but I was on TV ten minutes later and I don’t think anybody noticed anything.
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Or the time he was such an embarrassment that even TNA dudes were ashamed of him:

Instead of being a dignified elder statesman and a role model for the young guys on the TNA roster, Flair has become an old-timer with significant financial and personal issues who, according to reports, was mocked by the young guys for his irresponsible and immature behavior in Dublin.
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And during his time in TNA, as a man in his 60s, he repeatedly got thrown out of bars for being inappropriate, not paying his tabs, and possibly was the deciding factor in TNA leaving Orlando, because his behavior had strained the relationship with the hotels and Universal Studios to the limit.
 
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Has Ric Flair ever won a shoot fight? Off the top of my head, I can recall three incidents where his toughness was challenged--by his daughter's boyfriend, his 4th wife, and by Eric Bischoff. And by all accounts, he had his ass handed to him all three times.
 
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