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AusPoliGAF |OT| Boats? What Boats?
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It's sexist to apply the 'born to rule' mantra to Credlin because that applies to everyone in the Liberal Party. Especially the men.
The issue with Credlin is she is unelected. If Abbott is booted by the Libs, based on history, Credlin would stay. Her position is supposed to be more bureaucratic, in reality she's actually making a lot of the decisions.
Is she?
I apply it to almost all politicians. It is only sexist if you DON'T also apply it to the men, which I think most people who apply it about Peta would.
That's fine, but you can't label each instance as due to sexist views. That is quite a bit different to what you are suggesting with the climate change analogy. Just because an environment full of sexism creates more sexist events doesn't mean each criticism of a female is due to sexism inherently.
Better than I could have said it I guess.
Nope, not buying it. Unless they think she isn't a manipulative string puller? Which would not seem to be a very controversial statement to me, almost everybody in political Canberra either is, or aspires to be so.
Probably true. I'm labelling this instance though.
Is she a manipulative string puller because she's like all the others, or because she's different from all the others? If the former, why all the press? How many chiefs of staff get this much coverage?
Better than I could have said it I guess.
Those are ridconkulous.
All politicians are manipultive string pullers... What did we see when Rudd was dudded? It wasnt women, it was the 'faceless men'. Thats politics.
Its like saying a bad asian driver is a bad driver. Is this a racist stereotype? Yes. Can it be true of individual Asians? Obviously. The argument seems to be that we cant label a female certain things because that is a stereotype of females in certain roles. Even if they are committing the actions that lead to those labels.
Surely the more sexist thing is to apply a defence to all women in these scenarios regardless of the facts.
There's no wise one in either government who started good but fell into darkness.
Sauron is clearly the USA government - they dictate everything we do. And the pollies are the Orcs, with the stronger ones in front of the cameras an urukhai hai.
bobnowhere
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Nick Minchin, though not sure of his influence now that he has left the senate.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-...nce-of-credlin-a-career-limiting-move/5963790
Good article on the matter.
Good article on the matter.
So he wants to become judge, jury, and executor...
This if passed will easily be the worst policy ever done in Australian history except for the White Australian policy. Heck I'd say it rivals it.
Tim the Wiz
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Gotta say, I'm speechless. That's some crazy overreach.
He's a monster - literally a Hitler in the making if nothing is done about him.
Next it'll be removing citizenship from all asylum seekers from the Khmer rouge - Cambodia's safe now no need to remain in Australia. The sadest part is that it'd probably work
viciouskillersquirrel
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The worst part is that the way it reads, you can be retroactively stripped of citizenship and all the rights that go with it. I have lived in this country for 25 years. If I were to be convicted of a crime, I could literally be deported back to El Salvador.
Fascist doesn't even begin to describe this.
If this passes, he has effectively made every foreign born Australian a second class citizen.
Fascist doesn't even begin to describe this.
If this passes, he has effectively made every foreign born Australian a second class citizen.
Convicted? Bahahahaha no its even worse - you just have to be someone Scott Morrison considers a bad character. God help you if you cut him in traffic
What the fuck? We're never going to get another Mason court; and I'm worried that the Libs will turn the court into the politicised mess that the US Supreme Court is.
Well, Labor did appoint about four justices in their last two terms. Won't do a whole lot of good though, Australian Judges are incredibly legalistic.
I'm a little inebriated and I don't have my sources with me but basically because the constitution gives power over naturalisation and aliens and not citizenship it was kind of assumed for a long time that the commonwealth didn't have the power to remove citizenship, this was basically affirmed in one case (probably about 20 years ago) and then some other justices in another case said that was wrong (was obiter though). This happened a whole ago on both fronts, so I apologise by saying 'latest' but I meant 'latest' in terms of head of power.
In other words it's inconclusive but yeah I wouldn't rely on the High Court to deem these laws unconstitutional but they might.
I'm a little inebriated and I don't have my sources with me but basically because the constitution gives power over naturalisation and aliens and not citizenship it was kind of assumed for a long time that the commonwealth didn't have the power to remove citizenship, this was basically affirmed in one case (probably about 20 years ago) and then some other justices in another case said that was wrong (was obiter though). This happened a whole ago on both fronts, so I apologise by saying 'latest' but I meant 'latest' in terms of head of power.
In other words it's inconclusive but yeah I wouldn't rely on the High Court to deem these laws unconstitutional but they might.
Abbott keeps trumpeting that he has three great achievements in his term so far. One of them is debatable ("turning back the boats") and comes at a huge cost, and the other two? Those were revenue streams (well, ok, both were called "taxes" but I'm not actually sure the ETS was actual revenue but the mining tax sure was). Might be useful trying to balance a fucking budget.
Has anyone done an economic analysis of those actual achievements of his against the budget?
Has anyone done an economic analysis of those actual achievements of his against the budget?
The mining tax was a bit of a balls up, so with falling commodity prices it probably wouldn't have generated much.
The carbon tax on the other hand was designed to be redistributive. The tax paid by the polluters was used to offset the end users power bill and to fund alternative energy r&d and construction. The Libs have reduced the latter, but kept the former so people think their power bills have dropped. What's left is basically energy welfare, skewing the market to over consume. Milton Friedman (Hockey's economic sensei) would have been disgusted.
The carbon tax on the other hand was designed to be redistributive. The tax paid by the polluters was used to offset the end users power bill and to fund alternative energy r&d and construction. The Libs have reduced the latter, but kept the former so people think their power bills have dropped. What's left is basically energy welfare, skewing the market to over consume. Milton Friedman (Hockey's economic sensei) would have been disgusted.
Dastardly Jerks
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Appealing current legislation is barely an achievement.
So, how did we go with that budget forecast?
So, how did we go with that budget forecast?
Labor took the Fisher by-election by a handful of votes. The FPTP advocates are already crawling out of the woodwork.
A lot of damnation from experts too, I especially like the guy that says the government has dug a hole its not competent enough to climb out of
http://theconversation.com/federal-budget-deficit-climbs-to-40-4bn-experts-react-35481
Revenue's through the floor, deficit forecast is up by $10 billion. This is what happens when you base an economy around commodity prices
A lot of damnation from experts too, I especially like the guy that says the government has dug a hole its not competent enough to climb out of
http://theconversation.com/federal-budget-deficit-climbs-to-40-4bn-experts-react-35481
Treasury and the Department of Finance are different departments that do different things, but then I read this on Wikipedia:
And came away more confused than I was before. So thanks for that Shaneus.
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A More Normal Bird
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Don't forget the Assistant Treasurer! Due to the untimely demise of Senator Arthur Sinodinos' political career, the current Acting Assistant Treasurer is... Finance Minister Mathias Cormann! One wonders how he copes with the strain of two portfolios.
Bro, imagine of mining companies paid zero tax!
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/fed...national-profit-shifters-20141216-128ebg.html
Is anyone really surprised?
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A More Normal Bird
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA. What's the bet she never acknowledges this? Of course, "the left" is imagining division Miranda says, as she retweets articles saying things like this:
Damn right, almost no Islamophobia in the West, especially not in Australia and certainly not in Sydney. Plus, who are the real racists? The girl who started the hashtag apparently wrote a blog post where she talked about hating white people and privilege or something and also she doesn't like Gamergate. Of course Miranda isn't saying that supporting or using a hashtag means you're endorsing bizarre SJW views, she's merely retweeting an article. She saves her full blown straw-manning for her own pieces:
Of course by "they" she isn't talking about a particular person or group, or providing a quote, simply outlining the views of "the left".
Zero taxes, zero need to use the government currency. True competition as the government must establish market value to compete with private sector currencies. Ayn Rand's ghost gets an erection.
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A More Normal Bird
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Possibly, but, much like the originator of the hashtag being full tumblr, does it really matter? If any one individual doesn't feel they need help they can say so. Even before the topic blew up on social media there were calls coming in to radio stations where Muslims and "people of ME appearance" were saying that they were heading home early or picking up friends or family because they didn't want to be on public transport that day due to past experiences. Of course Miranda Devine might say that these people are all paranoid or secretly hate Australia or something, but even if that was the case then surely the hashtag being so prominent is a good thing, because it would show them that their fears are misplaced and that they've been brainwashed by the loony left... who are the ones using the hashtag.
Does it matter?
That people are 'twittervists' and not doing anything at all constructive but pretending to in the twitterverse?
No it doesnt. Its all awful background noise that makes decent people feel good without doing anything. So in that sense, it does matter.
Twitter has replaced doing things. Cause lets face it, doing things is hard #doingthingsishard.
I mean, I mentioned orwell once! I think ive done my part to stop the police state!
Better positive background noise than apathy or negative background noise though
Also social media might make it easier to just adopt a hashtag or whatever but that's hardly a new problem, movements have been complaining about hangers-on who aren't actually active for as long as there's been movements
Also social media might make it easier to just adopt a hashtag or whatever but that's hardly a new problem, movements have been complaining about hangers-on who aren't actually active for as long as there's been movements
Helen Razer makes this argument a lot, and I'm not sure I'm fully on board with it yet. She trolls pretty much every lefty/feminist online campaign with "This just makes you think X is the problem and you feel good about winning against it, but the real problem is <power structure>. You haven't done anything about that, and beating X makes you less likely to try."
I can see her point, but I'm not convinced that "Twitter has replaced doing things." What things should they be doing instead? Do we have evidence of the decline of those things? If yes, did being nice on Twitter really lead to the decline of those things?
Maybe we dont want you on board with it?
Well, what has this campaign achieved?
Will muslim women feel more empowered to wear their choice of clothing? No.
Will racists see it and think 'oh, I get it now' No.
Its just a feel good circle jerk by morans. ie, twitter.
Twitter is to discourse as emoji is to emotion.
Well, what has this campaign achieved?
Will muslim women feel more empowered to wear their choice of clothing? No.
Will racists see it and think 'oh, I get it now' No.
Its just a feel good circle jerk by morans. ie, twitter.
Twitter is to discourse as emoji is to emotion.
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