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AusPoliGAF |OT| Boats? What Boats?
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Until you can figure out how to corner the market on "mining the wind", and make it only available to some exclusive club, then they'll hate it.
Because of my overwhelming desire to ban <your favourite thing>.
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A More Normal Bird
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Luke's Folly: Loony Opposition Leader calls WIRES after seeing injured animal on roadside
Holy Foley: Sanctimonious Opposition Leader says protecting environment is "right thing to do"
Puke Foley: Sickening display as Opposition Leader plants tree at local school
Holy Foley: Sanctimonious Opposition Leader says protecting environment is "right thing to do"
Puke Foley: Sickening display as Opposition Leader plants tree at local school
Brilliant.
rip ol' lefty fraser
Yeah, it's gotten to the point I hardly even bother to check their site for news nowadays. I wonder how much of it is due to the subeditor outsourcing.
I really wish Laura Tingle wrote for a newspaper that wasn't basically one big blowjob for business.
Truly he is our Lincoln
Here's a song about some history of wind power from David Rovics - The Biggest Windmill
Can't see what the far right has against it
Can't see what the far right has against it
Elaugaufein
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I was wondering how they'd handle it considering some of it is to the left of the modern ALP. Cognitive Dissonance is apparently the correct answer.
Regardless of Fraser's policies or ethical stances (most of which I admire) the real loss is his decency. Modern politicians look uncivilised next to shit flinging monkeys these days. Fraser was a statesman and incredibly well spoken.
No one in the major parties seems capable of being respectable and showing respect to their opponents. It's all five minutes of daily hate.
No one in the major parties seems capable of being respectable and showing respect to their opponents. It's all five minutes of daily hate.
Elaugaufein
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Someone is going to get fired at the Australian. A piece praising Fraser as a small l liberal but acknowledging his split from the Liberals. http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/...r-prime-minister/story-fnolgd60-1227270742887
Were you there?
No, but I can read stuff.
Unaustralian, lock him up immediately
Unstrayan. I'm on to you, imposter.
by the way NBN co is giving telstra like 100 billion dollars
no
seriously
cost to the consumer? generally?
and telstra retain control of the pits lol
lib propaganda for nbn costs under labor: $79 billion
oh and apparently the nbn committee is 'partisan' and should be replaced with - get this - a joint standing committee... uh... selected by the current parliament, which will presumably be non-partisan because of... uh... reasons.
no
seriously
cost to the consumer? generally?
and telstra retain control of the pits lol
lib propaganda for nbn costs under labor: $79 billion
oh and apparently the nbn committee is 'partisan' and should be replaced with - get this - a joint standing committee... uh... selected by the current parliament, which will presumably be non-partisan because of... uh... reasons.
Elaugaufein
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I thought at this stage it was pretty clear that "partisan" has been redefined to mean not partisan for the right people.
I saw that. Apparently we can't get out of it because the fuckheads tore up the old contracts to renegotiate. Telstra were never not going to suck up a ton of money from that bargaining position. We're stuck with more expensive and less functional internet now, just like everybody predicted.
Labor should capitalise on this, but they won't.
ConstructMe
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Uni funding q...
If we pay about 1k per 12 week subject in hecs (so 8k a year)
Why is it so dear when 150 students doing a subject means they rake in 150k for a 12 weeks subject taught by 1-2 teachers who all teach 4-5 units.
So one teacher of say 4 units per 12 weeks is raking in 600k of fees or there abouts, say 40k for her wages for the half year from that plus being generous 10k in materials etc, where the fuck does the other 550 k go?
If we pay about 1k per 12 week subject in hecs (so 8k a year)
Why is it so dear when 150 students doing a subject means they rake in 150k for a 12 weeks subject taught by 1-2 teachers who all teach 4-5 units.
So one teacher of say 4 units per 12 weeks is raking in 600k of fees or there abouts, say 40k for her wages for the half year from that plus being generous 10k in materials etc, where the fuck does the other 550 k go?
'research'
You're missing a large number of additional costs in there (facilities, the costs of employment, just to name the first couple that spring to mind from a generic "large organisation" standpoint). Also teaching staff are expected to spend time equal to the teaching time developing course materials and assessing students. And research, with no scare quotes, so you're not just paying for the time they're standing in front of you.
Just off the top of my head.
(If public universities were such a cash windfall, everyone would be doing it...)
Elaugaufein
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Research is part of it, but not as much as you'd think, there's a lot of pressure put on academics to fund their research through grants and industry partnerships. A lot of the money goes to facilities (computer labs, actual labs, materials for labs , car parks, buildings, maintenance, the course management and enrolment software, books and journal access for the libaries etc) and administration.
Old Mungo writing for the Oz? Wow.
ConstructMe
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Half the shite at uni is the same for 4-5 years tho, i mean a assignment before they jazz it uo and change it, really tho even if you put 300k to running of the uni theres still a lot that must dissapear somewhere funny.
Also with the nbn....does anyone know if the fttn rollout has actually started? And if anyone has managed to pay for fibre all the way to the home from their new fibre node?
Also with the nbn....does anyone know if the fttn rollout has actually started? And if anyone has managed to pay for fibre all the way to the home from their new fibre node?
FTTN has started rolling out. Though I think its still limited trial areas. I know a bunch of areas on the outskirts of Newcastle have been getting it rolled out.
http://www.theguardian.com/australi...on-nauru-uncovered-by-independent-moss-review
weird it was released today after fraser dies and there's a cyclone eh
weird they held a media briefing less than an hour after it was released so probably nobody had actually read the thing in its entirety
weird that our government appears to be a total bunch of fucking shitbags
weird
weird it was released today after fraser dies and there's a cyclone eh
weird they held a media briefing less than an hour after it was released so probably nobody had actually read the thing in its entirety
weird that our government appears to be a total bunch of fucking shitbags
weird
Elaugaufein
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I think there's a large array of intersecting reasons (remaining consequences of the Cold Warrior era, tendency for parties to become more conservative as they become more entrenched (since they become part of the status quo)) but in the context of Australia, there's also the way the demographics work out.
As I see it:
The Greens have about ~10% "hard" support but its very spreadout, even their strongest seats hover around 30%-40%. Labor's support is also reasonable spread out (its easier to divide up densely populated areas to get close to parity in electorates) but tends to be stronger , as a result of our preference system this means the Greens are largely not really threatening , sure they take votes but it flows back in preferences. They are even less threatening to the Labor Right who tend to make the decisions (because of the Sea/Tree change stuff and location of Universities, the Greens are more likely to threaten certain Liberal seats than they are to threaten the Labor Right). Though there are times this results in Labor doing really stupid things (like the WA Federal by election where I doubt they could have helped Ludlam more by entering into a formal preference agreements).
The Nationals (and thus the LNP and other "mixes" like the CLP) on the other hand have much more concentrated support electorally , and those electorates tend to very hard right socially (the kind of places that think Liberal "moderates" are Socialists or Soft Left , etc). As such hard right parties actually pose a real threat in the heart land, particularly since those parties are historically much more likely to have their preferences exhaust under OPV than Greens are.
And yeah the Murdoch Media definitely increases that effect further , given the demographics of those areas (the average age of a farmer now is well over 40) which tends to lead to newspaper being more dominant in those areas.
http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/taking-out-the-trash-but-too-clever-by-half-20150320-1m44fl.html
"Coming on the heels of the tawdry character assassination of the president of the Human Rights Commission, Gillian Triggs, the timing of this report reveals Canberra's extreme sensitivity to any criticism of its questionable human rights treatment of detainees.
It should be noted that the government strenuously denies altering the release timing to take advantage of the focus on Malcolm Fraser's sudden death, arguing it had always planned the release for mid-afternoon on Friday.
This is hardly the most robust defence, given it would be a cynical time in any week. Besides, why not postpone given it had been sitting on the report for more than a month?
The risk of being seen to hide the review in the media maelstrom of Mr Fraser's death should have rung alarm bells anyway, given the former Liberal's well-known contempt for the harsh treatment of asylum seekers."
Mark Kenny from Fairfax
Edit: RIP Malcolm Fraser. I have a lot of respect for him. A great Australian.
Edit Number 2: And Abbott has finally realised he's lost the East West Link debate in Victoria. Really? The election wasn't a big enough hint?
'Things happen': Tony Abbott on sexual assault allegations in offshore detention
I wonder if he got this from his is priesthood seminary
I wonder if he got this from his is priesthood seminary
JesseEwiak
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See, the thing I'm getting is Tony Abbott and the Liberal's over there got the playbook and how to destroy everything good from the Republican's, but forgot the part where you put up as your front man as a charismatic and reasonable sounding human being who can be occasionally sympathetic.
I mean, Dubya was a horrible President, but he was smart enough after 9/11 to actually be supportive of Muslims and such. I get the idea that if Abbott would've been in the position, he would've sent 'em all to camps.
I mean, Dubya was a horrible President, but he was smart enough after 9/11 to actually be supportive of Muslims and such. I get the idea that if Abbott would've been in the position, he would've sent 'em all to camps.
Mmm, to be fair he said similar kinds of things (to GWB) after the Martin Square thing.
bobnowhere
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First he fixed higher education now "the Fixer" has started fixing interstellar infrastructure.
The Fixer: Episode IV
The Fixer: Episode IV
What'd he do this time?
Who cares?
Do they not have optional preferential voting in NSW?
bobnowhere
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Not sure, they seem to have it in the lower house. I keep getting ads in the ACT barely attributed to the Liberal Party and now tonight to the Nats that you only have to put a "1" as your first choice and no more after that. I wonder if it is a sign they are a little worried about preferences in marginal seats around the ACT and probably elsewhere.
I also keep getting ads about how the Nats have been super awesome in the coalition party room and have negotiated to not sell the poles and wires in country areas but will still get money from the sales in the city. The shear gaul of them to be so obsessed with power, that they Nats will try to sell that nonsense to people outside of Sydney.
You mean marking 1 above the line? I don't like that they parties make preference deals, often with some nutcase candidates above more reasonable ones and don't trust any party's preferred allocation order.
I'd rather allocate preferences myself although it's usually a huge pain in the arse to do so. Last few times I remember a handy site that generated a PDF to take with you.
They really need to reform it so you can number as many or as little as you want above the line and after that, your vote is exhausted.
No mean bellow the line OPV where you only need to number the amount of boxes of which there are vacancies and then as many as you want after that.
It's what we have in Victoria.
I just looked at the upper house ballot again and it looks like you can put as many numbers above the line as you want. That makes it much easier. I thought it was like federal senate where you can only mark a single 1 above the line and let that party/group decide the rest of your preferences.
Got my preferences sorted. Guess I'm ready to vote tomorrow.
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