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Rubixcuba

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Racist guy entire front page of the Newie Herald, glad we gave the guy that exposure.

This is also fantastic policy, good stuff Bill:
A future Labor government would provide for five days of domestic violence leave a year, if the ALP wins the next federal election.
Labor leader Bill Shorten will announce on Wednesday that his government would include the five days of paid leave in the National Employment Standards if elected. Casual workers would get five days of unpaid leave.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shorten-to-take-policy-of-five-days-domestic-violence-leave-to-election-20151124-gl6o9l
 

Shaneus

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He was fantastic on Q&A Monday night, absolutely schooled Greg Hunt and Judith Sloan.
Not that that's hard. But yes, he's an incredibly switched on guy. For some reason I was expecting someone completely different, given he worked for Valve at one stage.

Does anyone know why he only worked for the Greek government for such a short period? Was that the sausage analogy he made on Monday night (the closer you look, the worse it is)?
 

wonzo

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wa labor values

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Quasar

Member
https://delimiter.com.au/2015/11/25/bronwyn-bishop-to-chair-new-house-of-reps-tech-committee/

news The Federal House of Representatives has reformed its internal committee dealing with matters pertaining to telecommunications, setting up a new structure which has seen tech-savvy Liberal MP replaced as chair with veteran MP Bronwyn Bishop.

Previously, the primary committee in the House of Representatives which handled matters pertaining to communications was the Standing Committee on Infrastructure and Communications. This committee had been chaired by Prentice — a tech-savvy Liberal MP from Queensland who also helps steer the Parliamentary Friends of the Internet group — for the past several years.

The Committee had, amongst other issues, examined the controversial use of Section 313 of the Telecommunications Act by government agencies to censor web sites from the Internet. It had also been conducting an inquiry into smart ICT infrastructure.

However, in late October this committee was replaced by a new committee, the Standing Committee on Communications and the Arts, with Bishop as chair.

Hilarious.
 
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A More Normal Bird

Unconfirmed Member
In other telecommunications news:
ICON: Federal Government considers selling off secret 'dark fibre' Canberra communications channels
The Turnbull Government is in the final throes of weighing up the sale of the communications network that connects all its departments, in the midst of a storm over foreign investment in strategically important assets.

The Intra Government Communications Network (ICON) was established in 1991, with five kilometres of cables connecting two Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade buildings in Canberra.

It now provides 88 different government agencies and departments with "dark fibre" channels for secure communications across 400 buildings in the nation's capital.

In February, Finance Minister Mathias Cormann announced a scoping study to look into the future management and operation of ICON and to assess its likely sale. No decision on the sale was to be made until the Government received the study, due in the first half of the year.

Finance department officials told Senate estimates earlier this year there were 1,582 individual cables making up an 882-kilometre ICON network that includes about 160,000 kilometres of fibre.

The first assistant secretary of the Finance Department, John Sheridan, told the hearing the network costs $8 million a year to run.

He detailed the sheer scale of the network, which has 516 points of presence in 2,040 pits around Canberra.

"It's physically rated at 'protected' and agencies can use that to connect, rather than use commercially provided cables," he said.

Current DFAT secretary Peter Varghese refused to answer questions about the network's potential sale at an event in Canberra on Monday.

"It's not an issue I want to go into today," Mr Varghese said.
'Dark fibre' leak could compromise national security

According to Government security guidelines the "protected" security classification means its compromise "could be expected to cause damage to the National Interest, organisations or individuals".

Mr Sheridan said the network was about a tenth of the cost of commercial cable.

"We call it dark fibre... so we just provide the link. They [departments] run over whatever communications they want to," Mr Sheridan said.
The Howard government tried this but was foiled by inconveniences like the defence department and security agencies putting their feet down, plus the fact that it's a fixed asset designed specifically by and for the government, provided to the government by the government at cost (to the government). But surely a private entity will be able to manage it much more efficiently, saving the government money whilst also extracting a profit from them. As far as privatisation for privatisation's sake goes, I think this tops the Commission of Audit's recommendation to sell off the mint.

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He was fantastic on Q&A Monday night, absolutely schooled Greg Hunt and Judith Sloan.
Normally I make the mistake of having Q&A on in the background, but on the rare occasion that I don't Yanis is on! Just read the transcript, he was very good, especially to this question:
Thanks, Tony. Malcolm Turnbull is now out Laboring Labor in his focus on fairness, which is usually just code for continually growing the budget deficit unfortunately. With the ascension of Malcolm and the appearance of a newer, cuddlier Scott Morrison, who in the government will fly the flag for fiscal responsibility and its individual counterpart, reward for effort?
Ugh. And of course Judith Sloan claims that Australians are highly economically literate.
 
The Sovereign Citizen "movement" have been declared a possible terrorism threat by the NSW police.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-30/australias-sovereign-citizen-terrorism-threat/6981114

We've all probably seen the videos on youtube with these nutters and their belief in magical wordplay and Maritime courts, but a serious terrorist threat really?

Also does anyone else get a chill down their spine when the hear the words "Acting Prime Minister Warren Truss"?
 
The Sovereign Citizen "movement" have been declared a possible terrorism threat by the NSW police.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-30/australias-sovereign-citizen-terrorism-threat/6981114

We've all probably seen the videos on youtube with these nutters and their belief in magical wordplay and Maritime courts, but a serious terrorist threat really?

Also does anyone else get a chill down their spine when the hear the words "Acting Prime Minister Warren Truss"?

Not sure about the Australian version but the American version were often associated with what were basically anti-government terrorist groups (eg Posse Comitatus) and often used some quiet serious legal measures to harass victims (like filing liens on property), and a handful have been engaged in some pretty serious events (including killing police officers and armed standoffs) . (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement )
 

Dryk

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The Federal Government has struck a deal with the Greens to pass laws to crack down on multinational tax avoidance.

Under the agreement, multinational companies with global revenue of more than $1 billion would have to disclose increasing amounts of information about their accounts.

The Turnbull Government also agreed to end an exemption for private companies with revenue of more than $200 million from having to disclose their tax affairs.

Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen said the Greens were tax transparency traitors, describing them as part of a "new Coalition party".

Bowen shut the fuck up

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-...-deal-on-multi-national-tax-avoidance/6997328
 

danm999

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Labor really have the fucking balls to say that of the Greens with the amount of dubious shit (Syria bombing, citizenship laws) they wave through huh.
 

danm999

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Apparently the diplomats of the world found the shirtfront thing as stupid as we did.

Ten months later, Russia was still ridiculing Abbott in international meetings, wanting to know when he was going to get around to carrying out his threat.

Russia's Foreign Affairs Minister, Sergey Lavrov, at a meeting with counterparts from nine other countries on August 6 in Kuala Lumpur, put it to Julie Bishop in his gravelly, heavily accented voice: "Is your prime minister still going to shirtfront my president?"

The US Secretary of State, John Kerry, jumped in. "Yeah," he said, "we've been putting money on the result, and we're backing Putin."

http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/2015/Shirtfronted/PartFourSecurity.html

The post mortem on the Abbott government is really quite fascinating, pretty much every incident that flares up and you go "oh ok that makes sense" Abbott is denying ever happened.

Particularly amazing is the story he was insistent on sending 1,000 troops into Ukraine despite the risk of engaging with Russia forces and starting a war. It apparently took;

the chief of the defence force,
the secretary of the Defence Department,
the overseas spy agency ASIS,
the Australian Federal Police,
the domestic spy agency ASIO,
the Department of Foreign Affairs, as well as all the cabinet ministers with responsibility for these agencies – Defence Minister David Johnston, Attorney-General George Brandis and Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop.
Secretary of Abbott's own department, Ian Watt of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, was opposed.
and
Deputy Prime Minister and leader of the National Party, Warren Truss.

to talk him out of it. Dangerous man who never should have been PM.
 
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A More Normal Bird

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Labor really have the fucking balls to say that of the Greens with the amount of dubious shit (Syria bombing, citizenship laws) they wave through huh.
I get that some people are upset that the legislation isn't going to be as strong as they wanted it to be. But you know... it's actually going to pass
So... who is the pot and who is the kettle in this situation?
 

Holy sheet! The right are still pissed.

Only two things can bring down Malcolm and one of them is not Shorten, his judgement in who he appoints and a rebellion from within.

Edfit: I maybe overacted, I though McFarlane was from Victoria for some reason, but he's from Queensland and therefore officially LNP so it's not that much of a change. He's just sitting in the other room so he can be a minister again, probably means a NATS frontbencher is going soon, retiring etc...
 

danm999

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Was talking about Labor and the Greens, not you two.

Oh right well, that'd depend if the Greens had made big noises about Labor being a rubber stamp for the Coalition at some point.

Safe bet with political parties is typically to assume they've contradicted past actions at one point or another.
 

Dryk

Member
That man is the best libertarian I could hope for, in that he sets back his cause decades every time he opens his mouth
 
That man is the best libertarian I could hope for, in that he sets back his cause decades every time he opens his mouth

But he's basically as close to a living right-wing libertarian caricature as you're going to get outside the US. And he makes me feel embarrassed on the approximately 3 occasions a year we agree on something.


Do they realize that this effectively decreases the chances of them getting their pick of PM anytime soon ? Unless the vast majority Coalition right-wing join the Nationals, all them going to the Nationals does is increase the power of the less-right wing and decrease the concessions they need to make (it might be difference if they ran for the same seats anywhere competitive and relevant but they don't).
 
Do they realize that this effectively decreases the chances of them getting their pick of PM anytime soon ? Unless the vast majority Coalition right-wing join the Nationals, all them going to the Nationals does is increase the power of the less-right wing and decrease the concessions they need to make (it might be difference if they ran for the same seats anywhere competitive and relevant but they don't).

I seem to recall when when Turnbull announced his cabinet the Nats felt slighted with the amount of ministers they got. They get a certain percentage based on the ratio of members in the coalition and some of the Nats thought it should have rounded up instead of down and they were dudded a minister. I would not at all be surprised if this is a powerplay to up their representation on the front bench by fiddling the numbers. Scott Buckholtz is next and they are making representation to others in the Liberal party, Natasha Griggs from the NT has already said no.
 
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