WaterAstro
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Remind me not to call 911 in America.
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Australian woman calls 911, shot dead by responding police in Minneapolis
- Thread starter Dead Man
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honestly unless there's actual evidence that the camera had a legit malfunction, whenever a cop does something like this they should be arrested and put in protected custody, only to be released after a trial (and backpay if he/she is not guilty).
But I bet they'd even find ways around that. And there's also the fact that a trial would probably just end in the officer's acquittal anyway.
But I bet they'd even find ways around that. And there's also the fact that a trial would probably just end in the officer's acquittal anyway.
More white people are getting killed every year than black people in America. It unfortunately hasn't moved the needle on police reform.
Of course, not when other people have a laundry list of excuses to justify it or ignore it because it couldn't possibly happen to them.
Mechanized
Member
People are really just better off fending for themselves in the US. Absolutely depressing stuff.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Might as well have called the local mafia for help
Jesus. She was engaged to marry in a few months as well. My condolences to her family, that's horrible.
On first read I mixed up the noise that she heard in the alley with whatever spurred the police officer to shoot an innocent bystander. Apparently that isn't known yet.
If it were a case of an officer hearing a noise and firing blindly in response, then that should be an open and shut case of wrong doing. Rule number 1 of guns is only fire if you know what you're firing at and are sure you want to kill it. I say should, because you never know what American juries would allow a bad cop to get away with these days.
On first read I mixed up the noise that she heard in the alley with whatever spurred the police officer to shoot an innocent bystander. Apparently that isn't known yet.
If it were a case of an officer hearing a noise and firing blindly in response, then that should be an open and shut case of wrong doing. Rule number 1 of guns is only fire if you know what you're firing at and are sure you want to kill it. I say should, because you never know what American juries would allow a bad cop to get away with these days.
"America sucks, these cops need to be trained differently and I need to move out of here."
Just about sums it up. I'd never consider moving to America and US police are just one reason.
Of course all the cameras were "off". Is it an offence for them to have them off when on-duty? If not, it needs to be.
Just about sums it up. I'd never consider moving to America and US police are just one reason.
Of course all the cameras were "off". Is it an offence for them to have them off when on-duty? If not, it needs to be.
No, the exact opposite actually. Police Officers in America have very little training and are often taught that they should treat anything and everything as the most extreme threat, and they have basically no de-escalation training.
And I'm not being cheeky, 100% serious.
There's also no real fear of consequences or accountability. They'll just be thankful they lived another night and all their police buddies, their local station, the city, the police unions, and ultimately any judges and juries will back them up.
AusRoachman
Member
Just gets weirder and weirder
mercenar1e
Member
The largest group of people killed by cops are White. another incident won't change how they operate.
PandaPandaPanda
Member
this
if a shooting at an elementary school didn't do anything, pretty much nothing will
Welp. That's just not true!
Young black men again faced highest rate of US police killings in 2016
The Counted project points to continuing racial disparities, with black males aged 15-34 nine times more likely than other Americans to be killed
MooseKnuckles
Banned
How the fuck is that even remotely possible?
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
She probably scratched her butt or something and mr jumpy mcnervous American cop thought she was going for a gun
mercenar1e
Member
2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2017/
2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/
2015
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/
You're going by the risk % instead of the actual numbers here.
They went there to murder someone.
People can't be in danger anymore if they're dead
ftfy
Take away paid leave for shooting would be a start. Then cops would think twice.
jellies_two
Member
There I was thinking two nervous cops picking there way down a dark alley with guns drawn and shooting at a shadow without asking any questions.
There I was thinking two nervous cops picking there way down a dark alley with guns drawn and shooting at a shadow without asking any questions.
Nope. Just a plain ol' homicide.
What in the name of god.
Eh, it's apples and oranges. Many more whites are killed by police, but whites also make up over 65% of the population with a correspondingly higher number of interactions with police. Blacks are more likely to be killed by police given their smaller overall population, but fewer blacks are killed in terms of numbers than whites by police.
Murder nets them paid vacation.
Arent more white people than black people killed by police? Yes, but no.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...han-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/
Violence Jack
Member
Demoskinos
Member
This is so utterly disgusting. They took a life of a woman and shattered all the lives of the people who loved her and these fucking officers are at home with their feet propped up counting their paychecks they got.
Mohonky
Member
What the fuck
Angelus Errare
Banned
I read this and expected her to be a black Australian.
That's murder.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
that story update is terrifying
me too
jellies_two
Member
I guess visitors from overseas need the same "how to deal with police so you don't trigger them" lessons that American kids are getting. Nobody calling the Australian police and talking to them through a car window would ever imagine that could be a risk.
Again, you are ignoring others' correct statements to push your own statistics. Which are not incorrect: African Americans are killed at a disproportionately high rate relative to the overall proportion of Americans who are black. But answering a question that is completely different from the one that the person you quoted was answering.
1) What the fuck?
2) Brushing over the question of whether the victim was hiding a Beretta in her pajamas, that's an insanely fucking unsafe to do: shooting a gun past your partner's body. You expect that kind of dumbfuck policing in hicksville, not in a city police force.
3) This has all the markings of a diplomatic incident. The Australian government has every reason to ask what the fuck happened.
4) What the fuck?
Yaphett Kotto
Member
If they do go for charges, it won't be anything serious.
AusRoachman
Member
Yup sure is. Article here BTW
http://www.startribune.com/woman-ki...ed-shooting-in-south-minneapolis/434782213/#1
Wait, what the fuck?
Hey, y'know, when you fear for your life you fear for your life. The police dept will do a thorough investigation and find they did nothing wrong.
Maximilian E.
AKA MS-Evangelist
Needs more quotations, The US does suck.
JustSomeone
Member
Do they just accept anyone to be a cop in the US?
That they have that level of detail confirmed makes me think that the driver is cooperating and that we're virtually guaranteed a prosecution.
It's a low skill job, if these stories are anything to judge by. I think you just need a picture ID and at least 8 fingers to get in.