Autumn Anime 2016 |OT| The seasons change, but we're still Falling for Euri

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Jarmel said:
Well you still get the same character animation staff! ;)

Honestly though Habara has been on record saying he wanted a different directorial style compared to Izubuchi and he wanted to emulate the original Yamato stuff.
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As someone who has watched the original Yamato, that sounds terrrrrrible. What a dry, boring and clunky series.
 
Jarmel said:
The new CG director is linked to Imagica? I don't see where they've done CG animation before so maybe someone else is doing the CG animation?
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Wrong guy.... :P

You're looking for this one: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=58863

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lol

You mean Shōsuke Uechi or Takashi Imanishi? Imanishi wasn't even the CGI director on the movie so I don't know what's going on with him.
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Imanishi. He's been very busy with Origin.
 
Jarmel said:
The Director of Photography one is a megaton. I thought Aoki would do both FMP and 2202 like he did Rinne no Lagrange and 2199 roughly around the same time. I guess he's all in with FMP. Either that or he's drinking Pina Coladas in Okinawa.
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If Aoki is on FMP instead of Yamato I'm holding you personally responsible.

Well you still get the same character animation staff! ;)

Honestly though Habara has been on record saying he wanted a different directorial style compared to Izubuchi and he wanted to emulate the original Yamato stuff.
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Do you have a link to where you saw that?
 
Aoki not working on 2202 is a megaton. I thought that shit was in the bag.

Jexhius said:
As someone who has watched the original Yamato, that sounds terrrrrrible. What a dry, boring and clunky series.
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http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/116a/ said:
Interviewer: In our previous interview with Mr. Fukui, he said, “I’d want to cherish the atmosphere of the original Yamato.” Mr. Fukui aims for that with the storytelling, and will you do the same with the direction and filmmaking?

Habara: That’s right. I’ve talked with Mr. Fukui from the early stages of the meetings and said I intended to “put in the images that we saw.” We can’t help but match the tempo of modern times, so we can’t settle into the unhurried feeling of older anime. However, the original Yamato was mainly about filmmaking, and I intend to properly follow the “grammar of drawing.” I’d like everyone to be able to say “I wanted to see scenes like that!” I want them to enjoy actually watching and seeing how a scene turned out.
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http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/099a/ said:
• There is no desire to dismiss any of 2199, but since the staff lineup has changed a few other changes should be expected. Like Gundam Unicorn (also written by Mr. Fukui), the direction will be to return to the feel of the original. The 2199 characters will not be completely changed, but the intervening years have been harsh, and their appearances will reflect this while remaining consistent.
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Yea...

duckroll said:
Wrong guy.... :P

You're looking for this one: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=58863

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Imanishi. He's been very busy with Origin.
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Ooops. Well The New Movie was good I guess? How the hell do they even pick these people? I guess though that 2202 will be a co-production with IG again.
 
TO BE HERO 05

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M-my brand... Stop stealing...
 
Yuri fights Yugi-Oh #5

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Me on the right.

Yuri on Ice is an anime with characters of different nationalities and races, but with a realistic and down-to earth character design...

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And then there is this fucking guy.

It's interesting to see Yuuri is starting to defy Victor, I was expecting him to get mad, but it seems nothing came of it. Still hopefully it will bring to some sort of conflict between the two that will lead to some grow-

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Nevermind.
 
Girlish Number 4
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Chitose is phenomenal. The show is a complete disaster, the event was a disappointment, the producers are idiots, the animators are dead, the author is on suicide watch... and yet she only cares about her Twitter followers.
 
Hellwarden said:
From the new Berserk Musou, rape horse is going to be a DLC character. This is apparently the most fan requested character.

BTW, Skull Knight is not in the main game, and has not be announced as a DLC character yet.
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I'm sure people took the joke too seriously, but lol this is amazing.

Everyone gets CGI rape horse.
 
Jarmel said:
Ooops. Well The New Movie was good I guess? How the hell do they even pick these people? I guess though that 2202 will be a co-production with IG again.
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The Arise movie's CG was done by Orange. This guy just worked on 3D Layouts which were outsourced to Sublimation. Sublimation also worked on 3D Layouts for the 2199 movie. Their actual CG Production works seem pretty decent though - they worked on Rage of Bahamut, Garo (the good one), Gatchaman Crowds. We'll see.
 
blurr said:
heh, was going to share that as well; more on how accurate Shirobako was
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I've been telling this people forever. :P

Anyone with production/project management experience in entertainment (games, movies, CG, animation, TV, etc) will be able to easily relate something in Shirobako to something they've seen or lived through in their professional careers.

As I've mentioned before, every major and minor problem, crisis, and situation presented in that show I can directly correlate to something I've gone through.
 
Qurupeke said:
The most impressive fact about it was its length. Such a pleasant surprise we got a full length, uninterrupted performance.
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Maybe they decided to do that after redoing the season 1 performances for the films? Or perhaps those scenes were done at the same time - if the film and episode production schedules turned out to line up, it could possibly make such work more efficient to do and more viable for a TV series release.
 
Euphonium 05

I wasn't ready for the presentation to be this week's episode. Got emotional near the end there, so beautiful...
 
hosannainexcelsis said:
If the author thinks that Euphonium is cynically designed to pander to the sexual desires of viewers and Yuri on Ice is not, I would question that considering I've seen way more pornographic fantasies inspired by Yuri on Ice.
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Yeah lol, YoI is heavily fetishied.
But who fucking cares, I'm supposed to get mad that I'm being pandered?

I'm surprised the article doesn't mention N.6, the anime was kinda trashy (the novel is good), but it does portray a genuine romance between two men that didn't feel there just to make people horny.
 
Euphonium S2 - 05

Great episode. As always they went all out on the visuals (and obviously audio) for the kids' concert piece. It was glorious. All hail KyoAni.
 
Yuri On Ice 05

Poor Hope Chapman. He picked the wrong week to put out that article. Suddenly you have the hyperactive shota with different hair colors and a fang made exclusively for DTL. Nice.
 
Yuri on Ice 2-5

Wow, episode 4 WAS rough. Episode 5 wasn't hugely impressive either (compared to the first 3 eps which are certainly above average for TV), but at least the rotoscoped skating sequences are always spectacular.

I really need to watch Euphonium at some point to see what the fuss is about in terms of comparing the two shows as "baiting" (also I just really should watch it and get over my completely unjustifiable bias against Kyoto Animation's work). Yuri feels quite inconsistent in this regard; up to episode 3 the show seems far more explicit about where it's going, then episodes 4 and 5 walk things back a bit more into ambiguous dialogue and physicality (leaving aside hot springs action) that you'd see in pretty much any crummy fangirl bait show. Episode 3 makes it quite clear where Yuri really finds his eros from (slightly disappointingly retrogade "acting like a woman" aside), but this is dialed back in episode 5 to the katsudon inspiration for some reason.

I usually only watch Olympic level figure skating but it strikes me that Yuri is really quite crap at skating to be making all those mistakes. I know there's no drama if he's perfect straight away but I can't imagine getting particularly good scores if someone skated like that in general; presumably he's supposed to be able to compete on an international scale if he's got through to the Grand Prix.

On a more general note, I don't find Yurio massively compelling as a "rival" figure at this stage. Most sports anime don't go with the "young upstart" as the antagonist (indeed, Minami in episode 5 fulfils this usual role) because it doesn't give Yuri anything to aspire towards; Viktor would be the normal rival figure for a story like this. Any moment spent with him feels perfunctory compared to Yuri's progression. Given that the show should be building to the Grand Prix itself - rather than the Russian heat where the two Yuris will face off - I'm not sure what the dramatic arc is supposed to be, particularly as I'm not sure how long the show's going to be.
 
BluWacky said:
Yuri on Ice 2-5

Wow, episode 4 WAS rough. Episode 5 wasn't hugely impressive either (compared to the first 3 eps which are certainly above average for TV), but at least the rotoscoped skating sequences are always spectacular.

I really need to watch Euphonium at some point to see what the fuss is about in terms of comparing the two shows as "baiting" (also I just really should watch it and get over my completely unjustifiable bias against Kyoto Animation's work). Yuri feels quite inconsistent in this regard; up to episode 3 the show seems far more explicit about where it's going, then episodes 4 and 5 walk things back a bit more into ambiguous dialogue and physicality (leaving aside hot springs action) that you'd see in pretty much any crummy fangirl bait show. Episode 3 makes it quite clear where Yuri really finds his eros from (slightly disappointingly retrogade "acting like a woman" aside), but this is dialed back in episode 5 to the katsudon inspiration for some reason.
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About baiting: Isn't the whole deal with Euphonium that they keep having the two characters act hella gay, but then basically shut it down repeatedly by stating they are canonaly in love with men? (Both in the show and outside of it)

There is no doubt the way the characters act in stuff like Free and Yuri on Ice is pandering, but on other hand, they never state anything about the character sexualities (The Free come out little girls in men bodies vaguely asexual if anything) so it does come out as more genuine. No one is going to get a girlfriend any time soon in Yuri on Ice.
 
Come for the cute, stay for the cringe.

This isn't quite soul destroying yet, but I do need to pause every now and again to regain my composure.

Also maybe I missed when they said it earlier but this finally cleared up that Gojo and Chitose are related. I was super confused why she seemed to be living with her manager.
 
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I said damn.
Actually I remained silent, but you know...

Didn't expect this finale sort of episode and jez what do you even say to the production values of that performance? Someone deter our favorite bear from watching this episode or he'll completely overdose on it.

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And to think that ANN has little better to do than fuel the 'yuri bait' fire and pull out Yuri on Ice as a show that doesn't feature harmful baiting...sigh.

I mean, maybe Victor asking to sleep together with Yuri occasionally is nothing unusable because in both Russian and Japanese society that's what young adults do all the time! And that's just beside the even more obvious bath examples etc.
 
Taruranto said:
About baiting: Isn't the whole deal with Euphonium that they keep having the two characters act hella gay, but then basically shut it down repeatedly by stating they are canonaly in love with men? (Both in the show and outside of it)
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Yes, well, at the very least Reina has a huge crush on the teacher Taki and they will sometimes tilt into a serious direction. Hell, it came up this very episode.
 
Cornbread78 said:
Bummer, BD or DvD it is.

Well, the next "Let's Watch" will be Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo then next week.

Any of you not seen it yet?
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I'm not even sure if it's officially out in US yet, was supposed to be at some point of this year IIRC but i dunno if that came through ...

Edit: Out since June seems like.
 
[Yuri on Ice] - 5

Dudes got pretty bendy this week, I feel bad for the animation staff.

Also, much pander etc etc.
 
dimb said:
Not really surprised to see this article after the way Jacob was talking on the ANNcast last week. I would say it is jumping the gun to sell Yuri on Ice as a piece that pushes strong portrayals of gay characters when that is not really what it seems like it wants to do. It hits the same comedic or pandering beats as something like Free when the concept of gay romance is brought up. Just because the characters are better established doesn't really elevate the text to something truly remarkable. I would say that the direction of the series will not choose to really explore much beyond base level homoeroticism.

On the article itself...Jacob seems way too wrapped up in anime shipping culture and extremely unversed on the topic itself. I am hesitant to criticize someone's understanding of homosexuality but the extensive discussion on "baiting" in the article is the same somewhat sickeningly simplistic perspective that comes from shippers. Sexuality is not hard coded and people can have varying levels of attraction for others. For an article that throws around the term "LGBT" there is really not any recognition of bisexuality, or how sexuality can be fluid for individuals.

If there was an article like this it should be about something like Hourou Musuko/Wandering Son, but that does not even show up in the list of recommendations. Like come on...
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Yeah, that is something that crossed my mind too. It's not surprising to me if he has reservations about such things, as they are unfortunately prevalent within the community. Unless you are actively aware and fight it, bierasure/biphobia affects us all.

I don't think it is a good article or all that well written, which Jexhius hits on. I am still very much out of the loop with the current state of anime, since I am neither watching watching Yuri on Ice or Sound! Euphonium.
 
hosannainexcelsis said:
If the author thinks that Euphonium is cynically designed to pander to the sexual desires of viewers and Yuri on Ice is not, I would question that considering I've seen way more pornographic fantasies inspired by Yuri on Ice.
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Can I use this argument in the next K-ON! thread in OT?
Yuri on Ice is way more pandering, but this is a bad way to argue it.
 
BluWacky said:
Yuri on Ice 2-5
Given that the show should be building to the Grand Prix itself - rather than the Russian heat where the two Yuris will face off - I'm not sure what the dramatic arc is supposed to be, particularly as I'm not sure how long the show's going to be.
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Unless they do like most other of these shows and make the final tourney event extremely brief. Maybe not even multiple or full performances then.
 
Eumi said:
Pre order now for a post-sexual assault ptsd costume for our female lead!

I can't believe the marketing for that game isn't getting more flack than it is. It's disgusting.
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Well, if it makes you feel any better the game is a complete bomb in Japan.
 
Basileus777 said:
Can I use this argument in the next K-ON! thread in OT?
Yuri on Ice is way more pandering, but this is a bad way to argue it.
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People already make that argument all the time (I remember when Chet Rippo was posting and people would single out his avatar). I understand what you're saying, and I probably worded that statement badly; I'm of course fully aware that fairly tame anime can inspire wildly deviant fan products. I just think it takes very selective viewing to conclude that Yuri on Ice is not eroticized and indeed conciously targeted at an audience which enjoys that eroticization of men.

I'll also just say that one of the reasons I didn't feel like continuing to watch Yuri on Ice is that the characters felt a little too transparently crafted for yaoi fantasies rather than fleshed out characters in their own right.
 
I wonder if Jacob is familiar with the bara subgenre. The article leaves me to believe he isn't.
 
Euphonium S2 05

Now that they've shown the entire song performed, that seems like a really hard piece to foist upon a High School Concert band. Lots of both little and obvious things going on at the same time and a lot of interesting variations in rhythm. Taki-sensei really doesn't mess around!

Funniest part was the little sideways glance Kumiko got from Shuu during the Euphonium solo. Only because that's the only evidence we've gotten that he exists in the past two episodes! Also, as a trumpet player, Reina's quick deep breath right before her solo is all too familiar.

Timpani girl is still my favorite though, she beats those drums with such passion.
 
Haly said:
I wonder if Jacob is familiar with the bara subgenre. The article leaves me to believe he isn't.
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For all the article's faults, I'm not sure it was the right place to bring up a pornographic sub-genre that often relies on rape and the same old seme/uke dynamics...
 
Only wholesome bara filled with pure consensual love for me.
 
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