Well, in the second episodeSold, sounds great, you mean early/middle trashy Gantz not boring last arc Gantz right?
several people got murdered for no real reason, including a child and teenage girl.
Well, in the second episodeSold, sounds great, you mean early/middle trashy Gantz not boring last arc Gantz right?
If I were to comment on the anime as its own thing, I'd like to believe that having Children intensifies the struggle and drama(whether it is brutality of the events or the constant sense of hostility)
That being said, the story's framing would be completely different if Riko were an experienced cave diver going in from the start
I understand what you're saying here, but this isn't completely accurate. When I saw the first three episodes of The Ancient Magus Bride with my mother, she did not comment at all on the scene in which Chise gets naked in order to bathe. And she's as ”regular human" as they come. I think it depends on the context, framing, and emphasis of the scene.
CultureThree Leaves, Three Colors 9
It's one of those Culture Festival episodes.
Today in In Too Deep...
Ah yes, the only way we can relate to true brutality and hostility is to see very young children suffer.
It's not "relate" so much as you empathize with them/feel the pain keeping in mind the age of the person which at one level depicts the amount of tolerance one has for pain/suffering and yes, age is something I bear in mind subconsciously/consciously just like you do considering you aren't happy about an aspect of the show which is at least tangential to age
Here's one of the rare cases where I wish the dub was included. Its all down to what I was first exposed to as a kid and so now it sounds wrong.
Guess I better get used to it though as I'll be seeing that subbed. Raises the question, has the cast for the new show been announced?
Well, you can very clearly blame the original author for her apparent age. I'm certainly not going to defend their artistic choices in that regard. I was speaking more to her background with regards to when she actually sets off on her journey. Certainly, not that much (re: nothing at all) would have changed story-wise if she simply looked older.Didn't know the only options available in storytelling is putting someone who looks like a 6 year old in peril, or replacing the character with an experienced expert.
The JP cast is getting announced tonight.
Seems like Funimation got the rights for IV going by this timing.
Sounding a whole lot like Mark "Edgelord" Millar's defense of how he casually uses rape as character development because "that's the worst thing a villain can do". It's not provocative in an artistic or meaningful way, just distasteful and shallow.
Gauron might have to be recast in english though as Mike MacRae doesn't really seem to be doing anime dubs anymore. to be fair I can't find him doing much of anything anymore.
Well, I'd appreciate if you've a more constructive argument to make for my interpretation of the age violence relationship than simple snark in your previous post. I don't believe I'm entirely wrong about age, it is an indicator for physical pain tolerance to an extent and pain/suffering is a part of Made in Abyss - now if (physical)pain/suffering is necessary, that's a different debate, as in an implication that pain shouldn't necessarily be physical or not at all present.
Maybe there's better ways(with an older protagonist) and I do agree whole heartedly about age being a problem with the more suggestive scenes with Riko/Reg. When it comes to violence of MiA I don't see "not provocative in an artistic or meaningful way" as a satisfying counter argument, much less your previous post. I don't mind discourse and people calling me out if I'm wrong but at least be clear.
Let's be clear about one aspect of Made in Abyss:
The author is absolutely a loli/shotacon. This is completely unambiguous when you read the manga. The main cast consisting primarily of children is absolutely not an accident, and it is indeed probably unnecessary for the story they want to tell.
That being said, the story's framing would be completely different if Riko were an experienced cave diver going in from the start, so I hesitate to say that it's entirely an unnecessary conceit. The author clearly wanted to show every aspect of the Abyss, including what happens when you ascend, and a more experienced cave diver taking unnecessary risks would be a more difficult pill to swallow.
Speaking of... yeah, I can understand folks who say Riko is annoyingly naive, and perhaps the author didn't need to make her as clumsy as she is. On the flip side, however, a big aspect of the main duo is that they contrast each other in full - Riko having encyclopedic knowledge of the Abyss but being physically frail to the point of helplessness, and Reg being an amnesiac with an incredibly durable body largely immune to the dangers of the Abyss. By the same token, Riko visibly lacks any sense of shame while Reg is easily flustered. Now, obviously these aspects can be clearly conveyed without resorting to the more unsavory bits the author resorted to (which, naturally, serve as clear and unambiguous signs of the author's preferences), I don't think there can be any argument to the contrary.
Still, what's done is done. It's easy for me to gloss over these eye-rolling segments when so much of the rest of the series is as well-executed as it is. Well, that, and I guess I'm kind of inured to it at this point? At least Kinema Citrus had the good sense to tone it down compared to the manga, and it definitely felt more in the background in comparison. (Seriously, the author is not trying at all to hide their preferences there.)
I think I could award the series my #1 spot for AotY without hesitation if those aspects were less present. As it is... it's still a pretty good contender in my eyes. It just does something that nothing else I've watched this year has really attempted. I have to give credit where credit is due.
I'm talking about justification though, not interpretation. It's an accepted thing that children suffering is uncomfortable to watch. Just like rape is uncomfortable and a very bad thing. But when someone wants to tell a certain type of story, how they tell it says a lot about their intent. You can totally tell an worthwhile story about children who suffer and have profound meaning, even if it is uncomfortable. Or you can deliberately design your characters to look like very cutesy 6 year olds just to do creepy and distasteful things to them under the guise of subversion. One is something I would consider of artistic worth, the other would give me a poor impression of the material.
Made in Abyss is the latter, as are all Mark Millar works.
To my knowledge of the length and breadth of storytelling techniques within the animation medium, I've found myself satisfied with age and designs being exploited for disturbing depiction of violence as viable and it is but not exactly elegant in light of this conversation.
I'm not being snarky, this is exactly what we're been suggesting in terms of being "in too deep". It's not an accusation of anything, rather pointing out that there are things which are considered normalized in anime/manga/jrpgs because of the narrow target audience who are mostly okay with it, but come off as pretty weird and/or tasteless in a broader view.
There's no question that Made in Abyss is a very well constructed show, but sometimes what it chooses to construct with the talent is well, questionable.
King's Game 3
The voting scene was pretty damn amazing. Surprised Nobuaki didn't bite the bullet for Naoya at the end, since they seem to be really close friends.
A teenager or young adult can also lack experience as a cave raider. Heck, an adult can too. I doubt all the people living in that town have descended into the abyss.That being said, the story's framing would be completely different if Riko were an experienced cave diver going in from the start, so I hesitate to say that it's entirely an unnecessary conceit. The author clearly wanted to show every aspect of the Abyss, including what happens when you ascend, and a more experienced cave diver taking unnecessary risks would be a more difficult pill to swallow.
Kings game is absolute babbage. I couldn't finish the most recent episode. Then there's evil or live another show full of dispicable high schoolers. Crunchy has some real stinkers this season. I don't think ive found a weekly show i can watch this seaaon yet.
Kings game is absolute babbage. I couldn't finish the most recent episode. Then there's evil or live another show full of dispicable high schoolers. Crunchy has some real stinkers this season. I don't think ive found a weekly show i can watch this seaaon yet.
i dont understand that reference
is that a money printing press?
edit: oh
Kings game is absolute babbage. I couldn't finish the most recent episode. Then there's evil or live another show full of dispicable high schoolers. Crunchy has some real stinkers this season. I don't think ive found a weekly show i can watch this seaaon yet.
I dunno, I never thought it was difficult to understand.Kekkai Sensen Season 1
What the fuck did I just watch???
This show is a fucking mess. The premise is easy to understand, but the history is ALL over the place. Like it's going at light speed all the fucking time. There's zero time for the viewer to digest the information they get... it's already the end of the episode.
It looks cool, at least.
I've seen that it's from the guy who made Trigun... Trigun was much better.
Holy shit I was fucking joking when I posted this I wasn't sure it'd actually happen. Hell they even implied one of the students banged one of the instructors.Evil or Live 01
This is the dumbest, edgiest shit I have seen in anime in at least several years. The instructors looking like the NTR doujin dudes that fuck your girlfriend, the headmistress looking like a dominatrix for the NTR dude instructors, a school where they beat the mentally ill to make them better people. Yeah because that works. I swear to god I fully expect some episode where the head instructor and headmistress are caught banging each other and some of the male students try to rape the female students because that's how try hard, edgy and gross this show feels.
2018 might be the strongest year in the past decade or so.The incoming winter season looks like the strongest season for a long time.
What a time to be alive.
The incoming winter season looks like the strongest season for a long time.
What a time to be alive.
2018 might be the strongest year in the past decade or so.
The incoming winter season looks like the strongest season for a long time.
What a time to be alive.
2018 might be the strongest year in the past decade or so.
Violet EvergardenWhat are the top shows for next season? I see the second season for Overlord and Nanatsu no Taizai, but other than that I don't see anything that I recognize.
Thats why I said might be. Half of these shows will probably tank but its still an exceptionally great season.Dont count your chickens before they hatch.
What if they are thinking about bomb ass omelettes?Dont count your chickens before they hatch.