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Avatar: The Way of Water | Official Trailer

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Was really hyped after the first trailer, but that trailer did nothing for me. Story wise based on that trailer, it just looks more of the same. Humans come back and eventually get their ass kicked.

I'm hoping that was intentional and there will be some real surprises in this film.
 

SJRB

Gold Member
Visuals are out of this world of course but I just can't with those blue lemmings, man. I cannot take them serious, they still look goofy as fuck.

O well, here I go rooting for the humans again.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
It does seem like it will be a "noble savage" storyline of zero struggle within the Nav'i and the only strife is caused by humans. I guess if they go with the idea that Gaia or whatever the planet wide intelligence is actually running the show and the Nav'i are basically slaved to it and lack a lot of free will then it could be cool but otherwise yeah, it does look like a re-hash of the first film, just skipping the human parts.

It doesn't seem like the unobtanium mining ops should be THAT disruptive to the entire ecosystem though. How much can those few ships really bring back? It is not available on a less inhabited part of the planet?

Day one though!
 

Ulysses 31

Member
Avatar was just an OK movie with spectacular visuals for the time and nothing more to me, this seems more in the same vain but I'll wait for the 4K HDR home release this time if I ever decide to watch it.
 
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Corpsepyre

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Have a feeling this'll be similar to the first film, in the sense that you have this huge, expansive, epic world rife with mystery and potential, but it's shackled to a by-the-numbers minuscule plot that you've seen several times over in better films. It's like all he cares about anymore is the tech.
 

Cleared_Hot

Member
Not even the visuals impress me. I mean the first was amazing back then, visually speaking, it was top dog, pushed the vfx to the next level. This one looks like it does nothing to set itself apart.
Are... Are you serious? Looking forward to the corridor crew breaking down some shots from this trailer like they did with the teaser trailer. The teaser started online arguments over wether some water shots (specifically the close up where they show hands tightening the saddle) were cg or practical because they were seemingly impossibly good.
 
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Cleared_Hot

Member
It does seem like it will be a "noble savage" storyline of zero struggle within the Nav'i and the only strife is caused by humans. I guess if they go with the idea that Gaia or whatever the planet wide intelligence is actually running the show and the Nav'i are basically slaved to it and lack a lot of free will then it could be cool but otherwise yeah, it does look like a re-hash of the first film, just skipping the human parts.

It doesn't seem like the unobtanium mining ops should be THAT disruptive to the entire ecosystem though. How much can those few ships really bring back? It is not available on a less inhabited part of the planet?

Day one though!
Literally the trailer showed tribal disputes.
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Huge difference between the responses in this thread and the responses on Youtube.

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The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
Are... Are you serious? Looking forward to the corridor crew breaking down some shots from this trailer like they did with the teaser trailer. The teaser started online arguments over wether some water shots (specifically the close up where they show hands tightening the saddle) were cg or practical because they were seemingly impossibly good.

The diminishing returns of movie cgi. Yes. It's not groundbreaking unless you've never seen great cgi in cinemas.
 

Dr_Salt

Banned
Pretty meh trailer tbh but Cameron is a great director so it will probably be decent.
Also did the framerate look funky to anyone else in a couple of scenes or was it just me?
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
I'm curious what the rough outline for the 5 films even is. Another alien species enters the fray? There is some novel event on Pandora? The Na'vi spread off world? Or it leaves Pandora behind and it is more about the Avatar technology in other settings (will Avatar 2 even have humans in avatars?).

If it is just humans vs Na'vi 'round and 'round, sequential 3 + hour epics might be pretty fatiguing.
 

ManaByte

Member
I'm curious what the rough outline for the 5 films even is. Another alien species enters the fray? There is some novel event on Pandora? The Na'vi spread off world? Or it leaves Pandora behind and it is more about the Avatar technology in other settings (will Avatar 2 even have humans in avatars?).

If it is just humans vs Na'vi 'round and 'round, sequential 3 + hour epics might be pretty fatiguing.
It’s a generational Godfather saga in space. Presumably Jake will die in the last movie.
 

Fbh

Member
Look awesome IMO. I'm in for the visual spectacle.
Yeah the story won't be anything special but I don't mind. It's not like Marvel movies or most modern blockbusters have amazing stories, and at least this will blow them out of the water visually.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
It’s a generational Godfather saga in space. Presumably Jake will die in the last movie.
Hmm, then I imagine we will get the Na'vi "defeated" at some point, moved to reservations. Then some sort of come back that succeeds "too well" and cuts earth off from unobtanium, then a final negotiated peace the leads to the best ending :p

Seems like otherwise earth would tech advance quickly and go scorched earth on Pandora.
 

Stuart360

Member
I'm curious what the rough outline for the 5 films even is. Another alien species enters the fray? There is some novel event on Pandora? The Na'vi spread off world? Or it leaves Pandora behind and it is more about the Avatar technology in other settings (will Avatar 2 even have humans in avatars?).

If it is just humans vs Na'vi 'round and 'round, sequential 3 + hour epics might be pretty fatiguing.
There was a rumour ages ago that one of the sequels will involve Jake, and other Na'vi, using the human ships to go to other moons in the system. Possibly interacting with other alien races, etc.
 

Stuart360

Member
Pretty meh trailer tbh but Cameron is a great director so it will probably be decent.
Also did the framerate look funky to anyone else in a couple of scenes or was it just me?
Yeah a couple of the fast scenes looked a little funky, almost like they are HFR scenes quickly converted to 24fps for the trailer.

In fact i'd be interested to see how old this footage is as you can see a few imperfections in the animation if you look closely. Same thing happened with the orig films teaser and trailer, although everything was perfect in the final film.
 
There was a rumour ages ago that one of the sequels will involve Jake, and other Na'vi, using the human ships to go to other moons in the system. Possibly interacting with other alien races, etc.
That idea was abandoned when Gravity came out and it was turned into a prequel comic. The sequels will stay on Pandora, but I suspect Jake will go back to Earth in the fourth movie. Would explain the time skip and it makes sense from a basic narrative perspective (2nd movie re-establishes the conflict and stakes, 3rd movie the blue guys are BTFO, 4th they seek help in an unlikely place, 5th they resolve the conflict).
 
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AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
I'm curious what the rough outline for the 5 films even is. Another alien species enters the fray? There is some novel event on Pandora? The Na'vi spread off world? Or it leaves Pandora behind and it is more about the Avatar technology in other settings (will Avatar 2 even have humans in avatars?).

If it is just humans vs Na'vi 'round and 'round, sequential 3 + hour epics might be pretty fatiguing.
One of them they meet a sentient water alien that takes shape of anything. In another a future robot that everyone thought was bad, becomes good. The 5th one is about a doomed ship where everyone could have been saved if the doors had been bigger. There will be a scene that will make you feel to awkward to watch with your parents because a girl will strip and asked to be drawn like one of your unobtainable girls.
 

Represent.

Represent(ative) of bad opinions
The final act of this movie aka the final hour will be fucking mindblowing and worth the price of admission alone
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
The final act of this movie aka the final hour will be fucking mindblowing and worth the price of admission alone
That does seem to be a JC pattern. I'm assuming that big boat thing is the final set-piece but that would be VERY similar to Avatar 1 with the helicarrier thing so I hope he is misleading us.

How many aquatic films are we getting this year? Better invest in scuba gear companies :p
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
Bloody hell, I posted the trailer in the other thread.

Anyway, the trailer looks incredible. Day 1 (duh!)
 

Dr_Salt

Banned
After the shitfest that was Avatar 1, people have every right to doubt the sequel.
What shitfest? Movie has a 82% approval on RT.
I'm not the biggest Avatar fan and I would rather have Cameron work on something else but lets not act as if the movie was unredemable crap. You might not like it but the fact is the movie was a critical and commercial success.
 
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bitbydeath

Gold Member
What shitfest? Movie has a 82% approval on RT.
I'm not the biggest Avatar fan and I would rather have Cameron work on something else but lets not act as if the movie was unredemable crap. You might not like it but the fact is the movie was a critical and commercial success.
I disagree, the comments on every website paint a bigger picture than its ratings. The story was bland and has been ripped on ever since it had released (there’s no denying it), the character design isn’t great and now looks to have less humans involved than before.

Many watched it but the majority seemed to hate it, it will be interesting to see how this lands at the box office.

Most who do want to see it often say something along the lines of trust James Cameron/only watching because of James Cameron/don’t doubt James Cameron etc.
 
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Dr_Salt

Banned
I disagree, the comments on every website paint a bigger picture than its ratings. The story was bland and has been ripped on ever since it had released (there’s no denying it), the character design isn’t great and now looks to have less humans involved than before.

Many watched it but the majority seemed to hate it, it will be interesting to see how this lands at the box office.

Most who do want to see it often say something along the lines of trust James Cameron/only watching because of James Cameron/don’t doubt James Cameron etc.
I mean I don't disagree with your points as they are fair but it has 250K audience votes on RT and it still holds that 82%.
TBH I'm only interested because Cameron has made some of my favorite movies and I did enjoy the first one specially the director's cut but I do agree that the story is nothing special.
 
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