Tams
Member
The visual effects of Avatar were stunning and hold up as still among the best even today. The rest of it is completely mediocre and generic. Boring even.
Rings of Power is just shit apart from the Elrond and Durin duo.
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Avatar: The Way of Water | Official Trailer
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The visual effects of Avatar were stunning and hold up as still among the best even today. The rest of it is completely mediocre and generic. Boring even.
Rings of Power is just shit apart from the Elrond and Durin duo.
clarky
Gold Member
Doesn't matter if it does 5billion dollars, if its as generic as the first its a hard pass from me.Gaf unhyped .. monster hit is coming people
The story and script from Avatar felt like it had been sat in jimbos cupboard for 20 years.
I'd like a cool original science fiction story from him not this CGI pish.
Aliens, Terminator, True lies. He'll never top those.
Rewatched orig. Avatar in a couple of days, so bit long movie for me. Beautiful movie, good story and action. Don't get the complaints about script being copy paste job. Could be said from just about every movie. Despite being almost decade older navi were just as convincing as thanos.
93xfan
Banned
Those two characters were awesome. But I did enjoy the rest quite a bit. I get the feeling many people wanted a faster paced show. Personally I liked the slower pace.
kruis
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I was wondering what movie to watch this evening. Now I know. I'm going to rewatch the 3D Blu-Ray that looks absolutely magnificent on my 2016 LG OLED TV.
Tams
Member
The pacing was the least if its issues.
It would have been a considerable issue if it were good.
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Pejo
Member
I'm a little late on this, but it looks like a visual spectacle again, which is cool.
Anybody know if this is coming to theaters in 3D? I know 3D movies are basically a meme at this point, but the first Avatar was one of the few movies that I saw in 3D where it felt natural and enhanced the movie. It really added depth to the scenes and helped with the immersion. I want to see those underwater scenes in 3D.
Anybody know if this is coming to theaters in 3D? I know 3D movies are basically a meme at this point, but the first Avatar was one of the few movies that I saw in 3D where it felt natural and enhanced the movie. It really added depth to the scenes and helped with the immersion. I want to see those underwater scenes in 3D.
93xfan
Banned
What bothers you most about it? Is it how different it is to the source material?
If that’s the case, you should have expected that after seeing the first movie.
They also avoided a lot of cliches. It felt refreshing. So funny I’m bringing this up in a thread about referencing a movie full of cliches.
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Eru Ilúvatar
Member
Day one.
ape2man
Member
I recently saw the movie again in the cinema's. You are wrong in every way, this movie is a flawed script executed by james cameron flawlessly.
James cameron has never created a a bad movie.
Spaceman292
Banned
I wish people would stop making the smug Pocahontas/smurfs/dances with wolves comparisons. It wasn't clever in 2009 and it still isn't now. Archetypal stories exist for a reason. Avatar has a few cliches but that doesn't matter if the movie is put together well.
CHEROKEEE
Member
I´ll take what you guys call "generic + mediocre" over endlessly convoluted/nonengaging stories like TENET or DUNE any Day of the week !!
SirKicksalot
Member
They're keeping it so secret that 2 out of three exclusive images are trailer screencaps...
Aggelos
Member
5 or 3... The jury's still out on this. There are many moving parts.
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According to James Cameron, we may get five Avatar films, or three, it depends
According to James Cameron, we may get five Avatar films, or three, it depends
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Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
I'm think he'll go with 3.
ManaByte
Member
Well he’s filming stuff for 4 while he’s filming 3.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
There's no way this hits as big as the original right?
Tams
Member
I haven't seen TENET, but if Dune (the recent film) was too complicated for you, then perhaps you should enroll in some evening classes at a college?I´ll take what you guys call "generic + mediocre" over endlessly convoluted/nonengaging stories like TENET or DUNE any Day of the week !!
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Tams
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New screens from Total Film
Number three is like a future blue version of that elf warrior in Rings of Power.
And I don't mean that as a compliment.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I´ll take what you guys call "generic + mediocre" over endlessly convoluted/nonengaging stories like TENET or DUNE any Day of the week !!
Tenet sucked but Dune is great. I enjoy both "generic + mediocre" and "convoluted/nonengaging" stories lol
all at once? Or is that 4 separate versions?
Punished Miku
Banned
Jarhead Clan.
MysticalChaos
Banned
I rarely, if ever, say this but this new Avatar movie better be good
Terminator 2 James Cameron went away for a whole 13 years to make this
Terminator 2 James Cameron went away for a whole 13 years to make this
kruis
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James Cameron Spent an Entire Year Writing an ‘Avatar 2’ Script, and Then He Threw It Out: It Wasn’t ‘Subconscious’ Enough
James Cameron's "Avatar: The Way of Water" was not the first script he wrote for a sequel
variety.com
James Cameron revealed to The Times UK that before “Avatar: The Way of Water” there was a full “Avatar 2” screenplay that was written and then thrown into the trash. It turns out that at least an entire year of the 13-year gap between 2009’s “Avatar” and 2022’s “The Way of Water” was spent on a screenplay that will never see the light of day.
“When I sat down with my writers to start ‘Avatar 2,’ I said we cannot do the next one until we understand why the first one did so well,” Cameron said. “We must crack the code of what the hell happened.”
Cameron and his team came to the following conclusion: “All films work on different levels. The first is surface, which is character, problem and resolution. The second is thematic. What is the movie trying to say? But ‘Avatar’ also works on a third level, the subconscious. I wrote an entire script for the sequel, read it and realized that it did not get to level three. Boom. Start over. That took a year.”
During an appearance on “The Marianne Williamson Podcast” last year, Cameron elaborated more on this third level that he believes allowed “Avatar” to become the highest-grossing movie of all time at the worldwide box office.
“There was a tertiary level as well…it was a dreamlike sense of a yearning to be there, to be in that space, to be in a place that is safe and where you wanted to be,” Cameron said. “Whether that was flying, that sense of freedom and exhilaration, or whether it’s being in the forest where you can smell the earth. It was a sensory thing that communicated on such a deep level. That was the spirituality of the first film.”
Cameron revealed in the same interview that he nearly fired his “Avatar” sequel writers because they were initially so dead set on creating new stories as opposed to figuring out the DNA that made the first movie a record-breaker.
“When I sat down to write the sequels, I knew there were going to be three at the time and eventually it turned into four, I put together a group of writers and said, ‘I don’t want to hear anybody’s new ideas or anyone’s pitches until we have spent some time figuring out what worked on the first film, what connected, and why it worked,’” Cameron said. “They kept wanting to talk about the new stories. I said, ‘We aren’t doing that yet.’ Eventually I had to threaten to fire them all because they were doing what writers do, which is to try and create new stories. I said, ‘We need to understand what the connection was and protect it, protect that ember and that flame.’”
kruis
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Canceled ‘Avatar’ Sequel, Titled ‘The High Ground,’ Had a 132-Page Script and Zero Gravity Battle: ’There’s Great Stuff in It’
Before "Avatar: The Way of Water," there was "Avatar: The High Ground."
variety.com
James Cameron revealed in Sept. that he spent an entire year writing an “Avatar” sequel that ended up being thrown in the trash. So what exactly was that sequel? The filmmaker finally discussed details with Total Film magazine about the canceled “Avatar” movie, including its official title: “Avatar: The Higher Ground.” The script that got thrown away came in at well over 100 pages.
“I was working with a team of writers. We had a lot of ideas,” Cameron said. “We kept trying to corral it into a box and it never quite fit. So at a certain point, I said, ‘I’ll just finish it, and see if it’s a movie.’ I did. It came out, I think, at 130 pages. It was like, ‘Man, this is a great story. This is a hell of a read.'”
“Avatar: The High Ground” got axed because “it was missing one of those critical elements about sequels, which is that it didn’t go enough into the unexpected,” Cameron explained. “It also didn’t play enough by ‘Avatar’ rules, which is to connect us to the dream world, that which has a spiritual component that we can’t even quite quantify in words. It ticked every other box, but it didn’t tick that one.”
Cameron and his team took some elements of “Avatar: The High Ground” and peppered them throughout the sequel that did end up being filmed, “Avatar: The Way of Water,” and an upcoming third “Avatar” movie. He also brought elements that weren’t used into a new graphic novel, arriving Dec. 6.
“There’s some great stuff in it,” Cameron said. “I mean, you’ve got the Na’vi fighting with bows and arrows in zero-G. I mean, I’m there! I want to see that movie. But it just didn’t achieve enough of the overall story and thematic goals that I had in mind. So we’re turning it into a Dark Horse graphic novel. You’ll be able to see that interim battle that took place between movie one and movie two.”
Punished Miku
Banned
Time to buy some tickets.
FunkMiller
Member
I hope this film has a great story and characters, because no one is all that impressed with wall to wall CGI these days.
pauljeremiah
Gold Member
Got my ticket booked, in 3D on the largest screen in my area.
Hawking Radiation
Member
My jaw hit the floor when I first saw this.
The improvement over the first is just crazy and I can't wait to see this in 3D which I hear has also been improved.
Fuck, this movie is going to do some crazy numbers. Avengers: End game RIP by Feb.
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Hawking Radiation
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Yeah seats are selling out fast here for advanced screening on the 14th. Already see some places filling up for the official release date on the 16th.
Also going with biggest screen possible and 3D. Going to be a good movie I feel.
