Avatard 3 trailer leak

It got taken down.
But I'll take a wild guess and say Jake Sully and family go to a new tribe, are treated as outsiders at first but eventually are welcomed as one of the tribe, we see humans exploiting the nature of Pandora is some new way and it ends with them fighting the exact same bad guy for the third time in a row as we learn that humas bad, nature good.

For the most part, no. Looks like some new villains, too.
 
LOL. When I heard Cameron was going to make like 7 of these? I was shook... "Okay, he's cooked"
They supposedly pioneered some new way of filmmaking that I haven't made the informational dive into. So, there is that, as well.

Ultimately, he is doing him, so.. with that said. Good Luck, Sir!
 
LOL. When I heard Cameron was going to make like 7 of these? I was shook... "Okay, he's cooked"
They supposedly pioneered some new way of filmmaking that I haven't made the informational dive into. So, there is that, as well.

Ultimately, he is doing him, so.. with that said. Good Luck, Sir!
I think he said he's done after 5 and will let whomever take over and just reap the benefits like Terminator.
 
LOL. When I heard Cameron was going to make like 7 of these? I was shook... "Okay, he's cooked"
They supposedly pioneered some new way of filmmaking that I haven't made the informational dive into. So, there is that, as well.

Ultimately, he is doing him, so.. with that said. Good Luck, Sir!
He's going to take a break from avatar after this to work on that Ghost of Nagasaki movie (Japanese nuclear bomb movie) I believe. But he said he has the next 2 already written and ready to go if this movie is another success . He said he'll stop if no one wants them anymore lol
 
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He's going to take a break from avatar after this to work on that Ghost of Nagasaki movie (Japanese nuclear bomb movie) I believe. But he said he has the next 2 already written and ready to go if this movie is another success . He said he'll stop if no one wants them anymore lol

Yeah, wasn't that the recent press he done ? About having the rights and wanting to do the Japanese film next ?

I think 3 was mostly filmed back to back, with 2 and they actually spilt the story across the 2 movies. Instead of the single movie they originally planned. Which I believe they also filmed the start of 4. Before a time jump occurs in the story and then the 5th is the final one.

I also heard he was looking at the terminator again. Now he got the full rights back. But that might be just Internet talk. But it's Cameron, so who knows ?
 
For the most part exactly yes

I assume you saw the trailer? Let's do a walkthrough and hash it out:

But I'll take a wild guess and say Jake Sully and family go to a new tribe, are treated as outsiders at first but eventually are welcomed as one of the tribe.

No.

we see humans exploiting the nature of Pandora in some new way and it ends with them fighting the exact same bad guy for the third time in a row.

Yes and no. There is obviously at least one or two new villains that are Nav'i.

as we learn that humas bad, nature good.

No. Take it from Cameron himself below.

"I want to show the Na'vi from another angle because, so far, I have only shown their good sides."

He continued, "In the early films, there are very negative human examples and very positive Na'vi examples. In Avatar 3, we will do the opposite."
 
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I never even understood this movie. Really comes off as some kind of propaganda. I'm supposed to be against humanity and for the blue aliens? Fuck them aliens.
 
It got taken down.
But I'll take a wild guess and say Jake Sully and family go to a new tribe, are treated as outsiders at first but eventually are welcomed as one of the tribe, we see humans exploiting the nature of Pandora is some new way and it ends with them fighting the exact same bad guy for the third time in a row as we learn that humas bad, nature good.

Looking at the trailer you might be sort of correct.

Looks like this new fire tribe is allied with the humans. We see Navi vs Navi fights, but beside that it does look pretty much more of the same.

I love the Avatar movies, but it's absolutely true that James Cameron could have done so much more after becoming king of the world in 1997. Cameron almost three decades by focusing only on Avatar and has diluted his legacy compared to other great directors. Spielberg made 17 (!) movies between 1997-2025. I'd give up all three Avatar movies easily for an alternate history Cameron filmography where Cameron didn't focus on deep sea adventures and blue aliens, but directed a dozen movies in all kinds of genres.

The biggest one that got away was Alien 5.

"We're looking at doing another one. Something similar to what we did with Aliens. A bunch of great characters, and of course Sigourney. I've even discussed the possibility of putting [Arnold Schwarzenegger] into the Alien movie."
~ James Cameron, BBC One interview, 2003.
 
The biggest one that got away was Alien 5.

"We're looking at doing another one. Something similar to what we did with Aliens. A bunch of great characters, and of course Sigourney. I've even discussed the possibility of putting [Arnold Schwarzenegger] into the Alien movie."
~ James Cameron, BBC One interview, 2003.
Oh man, imagine Arnie gets nabbed by a face hugger. just think of the super swole lantern jawed xeno he'd hatch!!!

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Cameron hasn't made a good film since True Lies.

He's rapidly turning into Ridley Scott.

That would be a personal opinion.

Titanic was a massive critical and box office hit. I'm pretty sure it was the first film to make over 1bn.
 
That would be a personal opinion.

Titanic was a massive critical and box office hit. I'm pretty sure it was the first film to make over 1bn.
I said good film, not successful film. Lots of crap makes money.

Titanic is entertaining garbage and marked the turning point where story started taking a back seat Cameron went all-in on effects. Critic opinions mean nothing, especially back then when their relationships with studios etc were far more opaque.
 
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I said good film, not successful film. Lots of crap makes money.

Titanic is entertaining garbage and marked the turning point where story started taking a back seat Cameron went all-in on effects. Critic opinions mean nothing, especially back then when their relationships with studios etc were far more opaque.
Sure, 11 Oscars is no measure of quality :P
 
Sure, 11 Oscars is no measure of quality :P
Or the box office

Cameron movies tend to have a perfect timing. It´s about the visual quality and that they keep you entertained. Avatar 2 an exeption from the rule, needed 3 evenings to work through it on Disney+. I didn´t see it in 3D, though.
 
I said good film, not successful film. Lots of crap makes money.

Titanic is entertaining garbage and marked the turning point where story started taking a back seat Cameron went all-in on effects. Critic opinions mean nothing, especially back then when their relationships with studios etc were far more opaque.

C'mon. Titanic is a good movie.
 
This band and these songs need to promote Avatar 3. Since the world is Elemental, use the elemental band.

 
Seriously, has anyone met a white person with dreads and not come away thinking the person was kinda tapped in the head?
I once hired a white chick with dreads because she was related to a good worker that vouched for her. She was the dumbest piece of shit I ever met, Borderline retarded.
Every mistake she made she would reply with "I'm sorry my brain isn't working this morning?" With a heavy vocal fry. Spent most of the day bitching about her husband.
 
I once hired a white chick with dreads because she was related to a good worker that vouched for her. She was the dumbest piece of shit I ever met, Borderline retarded.
Every mistake she made she would reply with "I'm sorry my brain isn't working this morning?" With a heavy vocal fry. Spent most of the day bitching about her husband.
But at least the sex was good, right? :P
 
I said good film, not successful film. Lots of crap makes money.

Titanic is entertaining garbage and marked the turning point where story started taking a back seat Cameron went all-in on effects. Critic opinions mean nothing, especially back then when their relationships with studios etc were far more opaque.

You may dislike the film. That is your personal opinion.

However, if the critics like it and the general public like it, that means it's a good film, no?
 
You may dislike the film. That is your personal opinion.

However, if the critics like it and the general public like it, that means it's a good film, no?
No chance. Its a "good bad" film. Like almost any film that has that kind of commercial success. Designed and made to appeal to base emotion and with a story simple enough for a child to follow. It's easy so the crowd can get into it. Sometimes I'm in that crowd, but I try pretty hard to check myself afterwards and ask "was it actually good? Or was it just the power of the zeitgeist?"

Stuff like Endgame, The Phantom Menace or TFA fall into that category. They are categorically shite in the harsh light of day.

Titanic is certainly a better film than those, but its no more or less a vacuous popcorn movie than they are.
 
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No chance. Its a "good bad" film. Like almost any film that has that kind of commercial success. Designed and made to appeal to base emotion and with a story simple enough for a child to follow. It's easy so the crowd can get into it. Sometimes I'm in that crowd, but I try pretty hard to check myself afterwards and ask "was it actually good? Or was it just the power of the zeitgeist?"

Stuff like Endgame, The Phantom Menace or TFA fall into that category. They are categorically shite in the harsh light of day.

Titanic is certainly a better film than those, but its no more or less a vacuous popcorn movie than they are.
Remind me, how many oscars have those three films won.....oh yeah, ZERO.

Now oscars alone are not a great barometer of quality, especially just winning 1 or 2, either in purely technical fields or just in the actor field, but ELEVEN!?! is a pretty good sweep of technical, writing, and acting which is a pretty good suggestion that the film has merit beyond "the zeitgeist", especially when paired with a massive box office presence AND the looooooooong legs it had, months and months at #1, showing it wasn't just a marketing driven flash in the pan.

I get that Titanic (and the Avatar films) aren't appealing to you, but they are pretty great films by almost every objective metric possible in the admittedly subjective field of entertainment.
 
No chance. Its a "good bad" film. Like almost any film that has that kind of commercial success. Designed and made to appeal to base emotion and with a story simple enough for a child to follow. It's easy so the crowd can get into it. Sometimes I'm in that crowd, but I try pretty hard to check myself afterwards and ask "was it actually good? Or was it just the power of the zeitgeist?"

Stuff like Endgame, The Phantom Menace or TFA fall into that category. They are categorically shite in the harsh light of day.

Titanic is certainly a better film than those, but its no more or less a vacuous popcorn movie than they are.

Commercial success doesn't always mean a good film.

However, what if a film has a good critical score, and made well over a billion at the box office? Is it then a good film? I'm not sure what other metric we can use?
 
I'm not sure what other metric we can use?
To me it sounds like the metric of autistically checking off elements that go in the r/movies-approved "good" box while ignoring the art of storytelling, which is the one element that makes stories successful.
I'm surprised they even watch movies, like what the fuck is this show of light and shadow on the wall? We left the caves 10000 years ago!
 
Avatar 2 was much better than the first one, specially in Imax.
I fully agree. I only saw the extended cut of the first after the initial release ran its course in the theaters. Great CGI but the rest of the film was as formulaic as they come. You could predict the entire story just by watching the trailer. Never got all they hype around it.

Way of Water had a significantly more interesting plot and drastically better character interaction.

Edit: It was also the first film I had seen in 3D that was not absolutely better off without it since Prometheus (of all films). Cameron recognized that that shitty ghosting effect made the 3D a wash at best and doubled the framerate. The film was gorgeous and the 3D looked fine as a result. Gotta give the man credit for trying new things.
 
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I can't remember a thing about Avatar 2 🤣 I can't even say what was good or bad it's like my brain didn't register anything as I was that bored watching it.
 
Remind me, how many oscars have those three films won.....oh yeah, ZERO.

Now oscars alone are not a great barometer of quality, especially just winning 1 or 2, either in purely technical fields or just in the actor field, but ELEVEN!?! is a pretty good sweep of technical, writing, and acting which is a pretty good suggestion that the film has merit beyond "the zeitgeist", especially when paired with a massive box office presence AND the looooooooong legs it had, months and months at #1, showing it wasn't just a marketing driven flash in the pan.

I get that Titanic (and the Avatar films) aren't appealing to you, but they are pretty great films by almost every objective metric possible in the admittedly subjective field of entertainment.
Oscars aren't a good barometer of anything.
How many Oscars did Starship Troopers get?
Scream 2? Event Horizon? Fifth Element? Con Air?

These and many other more deserving movies came out in the same year as Titanic and got nothing.
 
The same! At least I remember that Avatar 1 was an asset swap of Pocahontas
And yet people still talk about Aliens nearly 40 years later. Why would that be? :pie_thinking:

This stuff has zero cultural footprint because its completely driven by special effects, which everyone is numb to at this stage. Story is barebones with forgettable characters (again, because they largely arent real human performances). It's got no soul.
 
And yet people still talk about Aliens nearly 40 years later. Why would that be? :pie_thinking:

This stuff has zero cultural footprint because its completely driven by special effects, which everyone is numb to at this stage. Story is barebones with forgettable characters (again, because they largely arent real human performances). It's got no soul.
Who the hell talks about Aliens exceot your nerd circle?
Why does it make billions if people are numb to special effects?
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The Tron: Ares comparison is fucking hilarious. Tron has two trailers, one if them 48 hours old, plus a fresh NIN song.
 
Who the hell talks about Aliens exceot your nerd circle?
Why does it make billions if people are numb to special effects?
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The Tron: Ares comparison is fucking hilarious. Tron has two trailers, one if them 48 hours old, plus a fresh NIN song.
There's nothing fresh about NIN and who the hell talks about Avatard?
 
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There's nothing fresh about NIN and who the hell talks about Avatard?
Thats whats so strange about it. It makes billions but nobody remembers a damn thing about it and it has zero cultural footprint.

I swear to god Disney just buys up millions of theater seats to make it look like a success. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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I just want a Terminator movie set in the future war as depicted in T1 and T2. Please Cameron, no more fucking Smurfs.

Yeah it was the most obvious sequel prequel whatever for Cameron and would have been a box office smash. Instead we got the turd sandwiches that wereT3, TS, TG and TDS. TS came close I guess to something worth watching but it was no T1 or T2.
 
Thats whats so strange about it. It makes billions but nobody remembers a damn thing about it and it has zero cultural footprint.

I swear to god Disney just buys up millions of theater seats to make it look like a success. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
Time for my tinfoil hat but I remember when the 2nd one came out. There were articles all over the Internet about how it was doing just ok and then suddenly the narrative all over the Internet changed after about a week or 2 it suddenly started doing much better.
 
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Avatar is like a roller coaster in an amusement park - people ride it, get out and move on to the next thing. No one sits down and discusses a roller coaster ride with their friends, it has zero impact on literally anything, no cultural impact, nothing on the zeitgeist.

It's peak consumption slop, mindless entertainment. Well-crafted, but vacuous.
 
Which movie franchise of two movies in 15 years, with no spin-offs and no merchandise, is discussed and has "cultural impact"?
Why was Avatar the fastest and best selling DVD and Blu-ray and why is is still #2, behind Frozen?
 
Which movie franchise of two movies in 15 years, with no spin-offs and no merchandise, is discussed and has "cultural impact"?
Why was Avatar the fastest and best selling DVD and Blu-ray and why is is still #2, behind Frozen?
Because people wanted to show off their shiny new Blu-ray players. You like Avatard good for you but your wasting your time trying to convince anyone they are good movies
 
All these people ragging on Avatar, do you go watch it in 3D HFR IMAX?? Cause if you're simply watching these on your 14" telly or down the local 2D cinema, you're not getting the full effect, these films are simply showcases on what the absolute pinnacle of modern effects laden movies can be, they're no Godfather and he never set out for them to be classics, they are pure entertainment and in IMAX they are fucking mind-blowing to behold, one and done, they ain't the same movie on the home screen.

Although I wish the fuck he would knock em on the head after this one and turn his sights to Terminator but when they keep churning in billions, ya can't blame him
 
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