MAX PAYMENT
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I would imagine that "pc master race people" would be in that category of the vocal minority that has high end hardware. I'd think most people aren't running around flaunting pc.
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Average PC gamer vs the illusion of "Pc master race"
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bad guy
as bad as Danny Zuko in gym knickers
Kind of unfair comparing the newest consoles with the average PC. You'd need a average Playstation Hardware survey how many people worldwide are still gaming on PS3?, PS4, PS5 first to compare.
I built my PC in 2013 and it runs everything I play at 75fps (my monitors max Hz). Okay I upgraded my GPU to a (200€)RX 6600 last year. I could easily afford a 2000€ rig, but my games don't make use of it, so it would be wasted money. Lot's of PC gamers don't need that much horsepower because many PC games don't have their focus on graphics. Dwarf Fortress is an excellent example of a deep game you can sink 1000s of hours into with a cheap notebook.
Also I have a crap 10year old netbook that I occasionally use steam on when on holidays and I guess that also flows into the average PC statistic. And all the "companion" devices like the Steam Deck could also influence the average hardware. That would be like mixing the Switch into average console hardware.
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Lokaum D+
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Schmendrick
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in productivity tasks, yes, in games, no:
The 5800x3d is generally faster in games by up to 20%. So you have to choose what your focus is going to be with that system.
And "outperforms most of the AMD's 3d chips." is just nonsense or rather only goes for the old AM4 offerings with the same caveat as mentioned above....all AM5 x3d offerings demolish it in every regard.
But at least socket 1700 is not yet officially an EOL platform.
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Fahdis
Member
We get to read results of these surveys in plenty of Threads on a daily basis.. we get it.
And results in supposed "enthusiast" places like this are surely going to differ.
Mid-Tier 2018 PCs running RE4R at native 4K solid 60fps with RT? Three 8K 60fps games in less than a month since launch, or Callisto Protocol at 8K 30fps with RT (reconstructed or not) or 4K stable 60fps with both RT features on?
Don't be a clown man.
Aww, C'mon Vick. If it wasn't for PSSR consoles would be stuck on 4K forever for at least another 2 gens. Perhaps or maybe same for PC. I just don't understand when 8K became a selling point. Diminishing returns?
Stuart360
Member
The only illusion is from console only gamers. Of course not every PC gamer has a high end system. Myself i have a 3700x, 32gb ram, GTX 1080ti. Anf i play on a 60hz TV so thats good enough for me.
When people say things like 'PC version is better', or 'you should of got that game on PC', etc, they are obviously talking about if you have the hardware, if your PC is good enough. Common sense people.
Besides those x percent of people on this high end card, and x amont on that high end card etc, is literally millions of PC games, tens of millions if you add them all up together.
When people say things like 'PC version is better', or 'you should of got that game on PC', etc, they are obviously talking about if you have the hardware, if your PC is good enough. Common sense people.
Besides those x percent of people on this high end card, and x amont on that high end card etc, is literally millions of PC games, tens of millions if you add them all up together.
Senua
Member
Rev hang is the only bitch. And it's huge for a civic, but yes Honda killed it with this gen. The last one was ugly but actually an awesome car too.This is now a car thread.
The Civic has won so many awards since the introduction of the 11th gen, its borderline perfect.
And yeah the XI is on another tip, looks good, reliable safe........no wonder it won car of the year 2 years in a row on Edmunds (2022 + 2023).......it lost out to the Prius 2024 but it was second.
Whether you get an XI or a Type R you really cant go wrong with the Civic.
Which Kia did you end up getting?
Draugoth
Gold Member
Bruh,
I was just talking about issues with PC parts and the plastic edge of my new brand monitor just deformed (and i don't know why), and now i have to call warranty
I guess that God just hates when i play on PC.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
pc master race shit is just a meme.
i do have a beefy "rig" and i do have a bit of fun with the whole PCMR thing sometimes but it's not to be taken seriously. someone who is running a shitty old laptop at 720p on low settings and only getting 15-20fps is still part of the "PCMR". it doesn't matter what your specs are or how much you spent. you pick PC and that's all that matters.
you don't even need to pick PC of course. play games on whatever the fuck you want. Playstation, Xbox, Switch, PC, smartphone, etc. Just have fun playing games that's all that really matters in the end and that's what unites us all. The love of games. Not what multi billion/trillion $ company we give our money to. Have some self respect.
i do have a beefy "rig" and i do have a bit of fun with the whole PCMR thing sometimes but it's not to be taken seriously. someone who is running a shitty old laptop at 720p on low settings and only getting 15-20fps is still part of the "PCMR". it doesn't matter what your specs are or how much you spent. you pick PC and that's all that matters.
you don't even need to pick PC of course. play games on whatever the fuck you want. Playstation, Xbox, Switch, PC, smartphone, etc. Just have fun playing games that's all that really matters in the end and that's what unites us all. The love of games. Not what multi billion/trillion $ company we give our money to. Have some self respect.
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MikeM
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I don’t dabble in the illegal side of PC so I wouldn’t know.“Noooo! The court said it’s not allowed!!!”.Talk about clueless.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
you spent 100k on a truck?
gooner4life_uk
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It's true, I done the Steam HW Survey earlier in the week, the 4090 is not even 1% of the PC market, my 12900k or above is less than 1%, people who say the CPU is limiting in these consoles are so wrong, maybe on an enthusiast forum, but games are not trying to sell to less than 3% of the market, they are still targeting absolute shit level hardware and even then, CPU's are so much better now than in the 360/PS3 generation so it's just lazy devs not optimising enough to get what they can out of them.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Guess he did lol
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Civic Type R would have been my choice too because i love the look of the carThis is now a car thread.
The Civic has won so many awards since the introduction of the 11th gen, its borderline perfect.
And yeah the XI is on another tip, looks good, reliable safe........no wonder it won car of the year 2 years in a row on Edmunds (2022 + 2023).......it lost out to the Prius 2024 but it was second.
Whether you get an XI or a Type R you really cant go wrong with the Civic.
Which Kia did you end up getting?
Honda is up there with toyota as one of the greats for sure!
However, GRC has the AWD which is a far better choice than FWD unless you want a simple and easy to drive car. It would be a different story if both had the same powertrain
Not that i'm gonna buy both anytime soon though as i don't even have a license yet
dont get everyones obsession with big expensive SUVs/trucks.... That's corvette z06 money!!!
oh well doesnt do anyone good to be a pocket watcher
I’m in the same boat I have a 3070 laptop that has 8gb vram. I figure I should be good enough until the PS6 comes around as long as games are being made on the base PS5 I should have no issues running games with tinkering settings here and there. With all the upscalers and frame generation it definitely adds a bit more life to it.
My goal is to get another gaming laptop after the PS6 launches if it lasts that long. I love having one because when my wife uses the tv to watch her shows and I can’t use my PS5 I can just game on my laptop and still be in the room with her. Plus the portability aspect and the other things I can do with it.
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bundylove
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They are all in that price range now.
Lonfhirn ,laramie, plarinum or any fully loaded ones
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
OverHeat
« generous god »
Bavarian_Sloth
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That's just how humans, freaks of evolution, work.
Whether it's a football club, religion, car brand, PC/console, etc. It doesn't matter. Humans need the feeling of belonging to a tribe and have the need to defend and satisfy it.
Now excuse me, peasants. I have to play Stalker 2 @ extreme settings on my 65' Oled.
Whether it's a football club, religion, car brand, PC/console, etc. It doesn't matter. Humans need the feeling of belonging to a tribe and have the need to defend and satisfy it.
Now excuse me, peasants. I have to play Stalker 2 @ extreme settings on my 65' Oled.
bundylove
Gold Member
I start to get the feeling people here have no clue about todays trucks?
They are expensive as hell.
But i need it for work and pleasure so..
Yes i could have bought a s class for the same price but i wont haul shit with that.
Plus where i live its 6 months of winter so
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
There is not a single lie there except the obvious "jokes".
Sweet summer child.
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HogIsland
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PCMR is console warrior cope.
A $450 laptop gets you insane access to videogames. Like 90% of all games ever made will play on this.
A $450 laptop gets you insane access to videogames. Like 90% of all games ever made will play on this.
You could deduct the issues right now like
-GTAVI, you'll definitely need 16 legit cores
-Tesvi, gddr7 vram or unplayable
-UE games, single core performance.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Fucking Truck Master Race fuck off, I want to drive my tiny car in peace.
OverHeat
« generous god »
I got a big SUV and daily driver…so I understand
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Most people here, or at least the most vocal ones when it comes to this, seem to only care about games released on the current gen. It's like for them the other thousands of games that came before just don't count lol.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
NeverYouMind
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Newer x3D chips have caches that give them an advantage but that is definitely a good choice and much better than your original choice.
HogIsland
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Wolzard
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If you look at the OS statistics, you will see that the largest language used is Chinese.
In China, cyber-cafes are still very present and the majority play MMOs and Mobas, which don't require much hardware and this ends up inflating the statistics.
If you look at the sales of a computer store, you will see that the majority of sales are for hardware with more capacity.
In China, cyber-cafes are still very present and the majority play MMOs and Mobas, which don't require much hardware and this ends up inflating the statistics.
If you look at the sales of a computer store, you will see that the majority of sales are for hardware with more capacity.
Senua
Member
Mazda 3s interior is so nice.I got a big SUV and daily driver…so I understand
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Maybe 7 cores are enough for 30fps.
They use threads, pc threads will disappear eventually. Legit cores like the new arrow lake from Intel and most amd new cpus, otherwise, Intel will dissappear which is unfortunate for the whole industry.
Gddr7 cause there was different variations of configurations for what was considered playable when Skyrim launched back in 2011 but gddr5 vram has improved the experience dramatically.
Gtav back in 2015 was the first game to use 4c/8t and 4gb vram, that was so wild back then, cores will definitely replace threads, and you'll need strong cores.
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Fess
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Yeah tbh I don’t understand who would be satisfied with a cheap $700 PC like Digital Foundry can go on about. Would likely mean a loud box and low settings on everything. What’s the upside at that point? Steam sales? mods? free online? It’s not enough imo. I’d say it’s better to wait another year and save up more cash and build something fairly highend, that’s when the real upsides of PC gaming can be felt.
HogIsland
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or you know, you can just let people get the pc that suits their needs and disposable income
Soodanim
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I didn't say there were lies golf, I just hope for his sake the last part really was a joke. You never know with these platform elitists.
Fess
Member
People can ofcourse do whatever they want but I would personally rather get a $700 console than a $700 PC, or 2x that.
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
I am a lifelong console owner and I want to switch. Consoles do not have the appeal they once did. With all the pay services, micro transactions and just bland games I can pass. I am holding onto my PS5 just for GRand theft auto 6. I don't see a bunch of great games coming to consoles.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Playing CRPGs with mods is the definition of master race for me.
Yeah you could theoretically play Pathfinder or Baldurs Gate on console but it's just not the same.
Yeah you could theoretically play Pathfinder or Baldurs Gate on console but it's just not the same.
Guilty_AI
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Many people need pcs for other activities. What often happens is that they're buying a computer and decide to throw in some extra money for additional gaming capabilities.
Besides, pc has tons of games that consoles don't, or that just aren't as good of an experience on consoles as they are on pc due to controls or community content.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
For me, it's being able to crank up the graphix on older games. It's amazing how good some PS360 era games can look when played at 4K/60fps.
And even older 3D games like Unreal, Heretix II or even Quake can look amazingly good still. Some maps on Arcane Dimensions left me amazed.
NeverYouMind
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Though that line-up is known for issues it is the higher end ones that overdo it on power draw. You should be safe in that selection. If you are looking to save money the board could easily be replaced by a cheaper one.
I do that with every game after an update and do the same with emulators. A few minutes of testing is a small tradeoff for optimal experience (even more so when the update is really good).Just thinking fondly of how you get a new gpu and the next week is loading up games to mess with settings and see how they run instead of playing them. Good times.
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awwr999999
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Has anyone ever bothered to do the maths and figure out:
What percentage of PS5/Xbox/Switch games are
1. Available on all 3 platforms
2. Available on PC
3. Exclusives
4. Timed exclusives
Somebody interested in owning a website that has lots of backlinks (being cited by IGN, DF, etc.) could make a site with updated lists like this.