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[flying_sq]

I used liquid metal on my 5900x when I originally bought it, with an AIO cooler. I was playing the Battlefield 6 beta and my PC started to crash and boot back up. After a couple times I was stopped at the bios with a CPU over temp warning. Figured screw it, I have some spare Kyronaut I will just use paste. Go to take off my cooler only to find that the liquid metal fuzed the IHS and copper from my water pump together. After a few moments of "how bad did I fuck myself?" I used a hair dryer to heat the processor and water pump. After 20 min of screwing around I was able to pop it off with a razor blade. But since I had 0 faith in the hair dryer working I didn't have it somewhere it could pop off safely. Bounced off my leg, then hit the floor bending a ton of pins.

I then spent yesterday and today with a razor blade bending them back as best I could. It seated pretty well so I put the locking arm down only to hear a very concerning crunch. Figured "fuck It, the damage is done". Plugged it in, turned it on, memory error led on mobo. After trial and error, turns out I fucked up the b channel pins of my CPU. Now I am buying a 16gbx2 ddr4 kit tomorrowto replace my 8x4 kit and calling it a win. Going from insanely fast 14cl 3600 to 18cl 3600, PC works with channel A slots only, "no issues".

TLDR Don't use liquid metal on your IHS, it's not worth the pain and suffering. The YouTubers lied to you. Also I'm an idiot learn from my mistakes.

 

[Plies]

 

[demigod]

I used liquid metal on my 5900x when I originally bought it, with an AIO cooler. I was playing the Battlefield 6 beta and my PC started to crash and boot back up. After a couple times I was stopped at the bios with a CPU over temp warning. Figured screw it, I have some spare Kyronaut I will just use paste. Go to take off my cooler only to find that the liquid metal fuzed the IHS and copper from my water pump together. After a few moments of "how bad did I fuck myself?" I used a hair dryer to heat the processor and water pump. After 20 min of screwing around I was able to pop it off with a razor blade. But since I had 0 faith in the hair dryer working I didn't have it somewhere it could pop off safely. Bounced off my leg, then hit the floor bending a ton of pins.

I then spent yesterday and today with a razor blade bending them back as best I could. It seated pretty well so I put the locking arm down only to hear a very concerning crunch. Figured "fuck It, the damage is done". Plugged it in, turned it on, memory error led on mobo. After trial and error, turns out I fucked up the b channel pins of my CPU. Now I am buying a 16gbx2 ddr4 kit tomorrowto replace my 8x4 kit and calling it a win. Going from insanely fast 14cl 3600 to 18cl 3600, PC works with channel A slots only, "no issues".

TLDR Don't use liquid metal on your IHS, it's not worth the pain and suffering. The YouTubers lied to you. Also I'm an idiot learn from my mistakes.

Wow that sucks. I only used liquid metal when Intel was cheap and not putting it on their cpu so I had to delid that shit. Only used arctic paste on the AIO. Are there even any benefits from using liquid metal on IHS to AIO?

 

[Dalbajobas]

They all together also lied when they told you to not use metal liquid on copper?

 

[//DEVIL//]

I mean .. it should be well known by now. Never use a liquid metal-cooled GPU/CPU/Console in a vertical position.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I used liquid metal on my 5900x when I originally bought it, with an AIO cooler. I was playing the Battlefield 6 beta and my PC started to crash and boot back up. After a couple times I was stopped at the bios with a CPU over temp warning. Figured screw it, I have some spare Kyronaut I will just use paste. Go to take off my cooler only to find that the liquid metal fuzed the IHS and copper from my water pump together. After a few moments of "how bad did I fuck myself?" I used a hair dryer to heat the processor and water pump. After 20 min of screwing around I was able to pop it off with a razor blade. But since I had 0 faith in the hair dryer working I didn't have it somewhere it could pop off safely. Bounced off my leg, then hit the floor bending a ton of pins.

I then spent yesterday and today with a razor blade bending them back as best I could. It seated pretty well so I put the locking arm down only to hear a very concerning crunch. Figured "fuck It, the damage is done". Plugged it in, turned it on, memory error led on mobo. After trial and error, turns out I fucked up the b channel pins of my CPU. Now I am buying a 16gbx2 ddr4 kit tomorrowto replace my 8x4 kit and calling it a win. Going from insanely fast 14cl 3600 to 18cl 3600, PC works with channel A slots only, "no issues".

TLDR Don't use liquid metal on your IHS, it's not worth the pain and suffering. The YouTubers lied to you. Also I'm an idiot learn from my mistakes.

I have thankfully resisted the temptation of messing with liquid metal. The downsides and risks just outweight the benefits for me.

 

[demigod]

I mean .. it should be well known by now. Never use a liquid metal-cooled GPU/CPU/Console in a vertical position.

This is false, I've never had an issue with the one I applied LM to on the CPU. And guess what? CPUs are in vertical position.

 

[Draugoth]

Dont use Liquid Metal,

The best solution in the market is Kryo Sheet, anything better is regular thermal paste and closed water loops.

 

[ReBurn]

They all together also lied when they told you to not use metal liquid on copper?

There's copper, and there's "copper." What looks like copper could just be mostly copper and the rest of what's in it may not be happy with prolonged liquid metal contact.

 

[//DEVIL//]

This is false, I've never had an issue with the one I applied LM to on the CPU. And guess what? CPUs are in vertical position.

just because you lucked out or there isn't much applied for it to drip down doesn't mean its false. even titronix or whatever that dude name said the same thing when he was fixing his first PS5 pro. and I think there were few cases of that happening on the PlayStation side ( don't follow reddit CPU drama so I am not up to date with their stuff )

heck even Gigabyte / Aorus 5000 series thermal gel is leaking out in many GPUs when in its in vertical to the point gigabyte had to issue a damage control statement saying its not a problem and just a cosmetic thing etc. but doesn't change the fact thermal gel / liquid metal vertical is not something recommended.

Gigabyte’s so-called “Server-Grade Thermal Conductive Gel” and a degrading thermal paste on the Radeon RX 9070 Gaming OC | igor´sLAB

Today’s article is dedicated to a topic that has attracted a lot of attention in recent days: the so-called “Thermal Conductive Gel” that Gigabyte uses on its current graphics card models and the…

www.igorslab.de

Now imagine if that was conductive..... lol to the garbage.

The sealing has to be PERFECT in order not to drop and even then. I would just avoid it to save myself a headache.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

Galvanic corrosion. It has to be direct die contact iirc. Even then who the fuck knows what alloys they make these cold plates/heatsinks out of. Or cheap out on mid production cycle to cut costs etc.

 

[Jacobson]

perfect time to upgrade to am5 and 9900X

 

[flying_sq]

perfect time to upgrade to am5 and 9900X

Thought about it, but I'd rather spend $80 on some memory right now and limp along until the 10k series. Get a 10800x3d or something like that.

 

[LordCBH]

just because you lucked out or there isn't much applied for it to drip down doesn't mean its false. even titronix or whatever that dude name said the same thing when he was fixing his first PS5 pro. and I think there were few cases of that happening on the PlayStation side ( don't follow reddit CPU drama so I am not up to date with their stuff )

heck even Gigabyte / Aorus 5000 series thermal gel is leaking out in many GPUs when in its in vertical to the point gigabyte had to issue a damage control statement saying its not a problem and just a cosmetic thing etc. but doesn't change the fact thermal gel / liquid metal vertical is not something recommended.

Gigabyte’s so-called “Server-Grade Thermal Conductive Gel” and a degrading thermal paste on the Radeon RX 9070 Gaming OC | igor´sLAB

Today’s article is dedicated to a topic that has attracted a lot of attention in recent days: the so-called “Thermal Conductive Gel” that Gigabyte uses on its current graphics card models and the…

www.igorslab.de

Now imagine if that was conductive..... lol to the garbage.

The sealing has to be PERFECT in order not to drop and even then. I would just avoid it to save myself a headache.

The PlayStations issues came from people taking them apart and not properly putting them back together.

The original model comes with a vertical stand, the slim and pros have an official vertical stand. They wouldn't sell those if putting it vertically would kill the system.

 

[demigod]

just because you lucked out or there isn't much applied for it to drip down doesn't mean its false. even titronix or whatever that dude name said the same thing when he was fixing his first PS5 pro. and I think there were few cases of that happening on the PlayStation side ( don't follow reddit CPU drama so I am not up to date with their stuff )

heck even Gigabyte / Aorus 5000 series thermal gel is leaking out in many GPUs when in its in vertical to the point gigabyte had to issue a damage control statement saying its not a problem and just a cosmetic thing etc. but doesn't change the fact thermal gel / liquid metal vertical is not something recommended.

Gigabyte’s so-called “Server-Grade Thermal Conductive Gel” and a degrading thermal paste on the Radeon RX 9070 Gaming OC | igor´sLAB

Today’s article is dedicated to a topic that has attracted a lot of attention in recent days: the so-called “Thermal Conductive Gel” that Gigabyte uses on its current graphics card models and the…

www.igorslab.de

Now imagine if that was conductive..... lol to the garbage.

The sealing has to be PERFECT in order not to drop and even then. I would just avoid it to save myself a headache.

We talking about liquid metal, why are you linking thermal gel?

There is no widespread of liquid metal failing. Do you see Intel, AMD, Sony issuing recalls on these CPUs because of this failure? No you don't. You fell victim to the discord FUD.

 

[Skifi28]

It's really not worth it in DIY scenarios. Way too many unknowns and things that can go wrong.

 

[zeomax]

I have thankfully resisted the temptation of messing with liquid metal. The downsides and risks just outweight the benefits for me.

I had liquid metal in my last PC for 7 years without any problems. It did not leak, the cooler (Noctua NH-D15) was not damaged. After 7 years it was still liquid and the temps were the same as the day one temps so there was no need to reapply it like the normal thermal paste.

 

[flying_sq]

Wow that sucks. I only used liquid metal when Intel was cheap and not putting it on their cpu so I had to delid that shit. Only used arctic paste on the AIO. Are there even any benefits from using liquid metal on IHS to AIO?

It Definitely has a benefit, I manually OC'd my CPU to 4.8 and with a 360 AIO and thermal paste it couldn't handle it. I put liquid metal on and didn't have a problem for 5 years until BF6.

Also for what it's worth, I emailed EK before I used it, and they said it would be fine "beyond staining the block". So I used it.

 

[Bry0]

Pretty sure LM is for direct die contact and not recommended for an IHS.

 

[SScorpio]

Thought about it, but I'd rather spend $80 on some memory right now and limp along until the 10k series. Get a 10800x3d or something like that.

Why are you spending $80 to limp along? You can get a B550 motherboard for $85-90 and keep running at full speed.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Lying is all tech influencers can do, influencers in general make their money from lying it's their whole purpose of existence

 

[Det]

Well, according to Sony, they spent four years researching the use of liquid metal for the PS5...

I don't think it would be as easy on a PC as "just swapping thermal paste for liquid metal."

My guess is that the copper in the IOA isn't "pure" enough; the impurities reacted with the liquid metal.

It's more or less the same as the stainless steel CyberTruck...
Stainless steel is resistant to oxidation and not immune.

The copper in the IOA is not as pure, so it is resistant to corrosion and not immune.

 

[Mr Moose]

I used liquid metal on my 5900x when I originally bought it, with an AIO cooler.

 

[Dalbajobas]

There's copper, and there's "copper." What looks like copper could just be mostly copper and the rest of what's in it may not be happy with prolonged liquid metal contact.

I love ML. Dropped around 20C from delidding and applying ML. PC now super quiet and cool.

 

[clarky]

I mean .. it should be well known by now. Never use a liquid metal-cooled GPU/CPU/Console in a vertical position.

I have LM factory installed on one of my laptops and I chuck around and travel with it in a rucksack.

No issues.

 

[kevboard]

I don't know why you'd ever use liquid metal in any scenario... absolutely not worth it unless you have some extremely niche usecase

 

[Anchovie123]

Just get a 35$ thermalright phantom spirit. No need for all this fancy shenanigans, unless you have a intel 14900k

 

[flying_sq]

Why are you spending $80 to limp along? You can get a B550 motherboard for $85-90 and keep running at full speed.

Pretty confident that mobo is fine, it seems to just be the CPU, I might go to micro center and pick up a 5000 series to test and return. I thought about getting a 5800x3d, but don't want to spend 300-400 on one right now.

Because I OC'd it pretty hard, and I was using thermal paste, but it was unstable. Couple days later liquid metal kept it fine for years.

On a side note, if anyone wants 8x4 32GB 3600 CL14-16-16-36 kit of perfectly fine working DDR4 for call it $100 obo to offset my new ram send me a message. I used all the sticks to test in Channel A, they all worked fine.

Also as another part of my shitty weekend, I was dropping off an incorrect amazon package at whole foods on my classic Ducati, leaving whole foods, there was a hard piece of clear plastic on the road, dropped it and slid into an Uber an hour ago.

 

[SScorpio]

Pretty confident that mobo is fine, it seems to just be the CPU, I might go to micro center and pick up a 5000 series to test and return. I thought about getting a 5800x3d, but don't want to spend 300-400 on one right now.

Because I OC'd it pretty hard, and I was using thermal paste, but it was unstable. Couple days later liquid metal kept it fine for years.

On a side note, if anyone wants 8x4 32GB 3600 CL14-16-16-36 kit of perfectly fine working DDR4 for call it $100 obo to offset my new ram send me a message. I used all the sticks to test in Channel A, they all worked fine.

Also as another part of my shitty weekend, I was dropping off an incorrect amazon package at whole foods on my classic Ducati, leaving whole foods, there was a hard piece of clear plastic on the road, dropped it and slid into an Uber an hour ago.

If you have access to a Microcenter, there's zero reason to spend a bunch of money on anything AM4. Going to single channel memory versus dual is a noticeable performance drop.

7600X have the same gaming performance as a 5800X3D, and it's $399 for a 7600X3D, motherboard, and 32GB of DDR5 bundle which will give you more memory bandwidth than your current DDR4.

I got a 5900X at launch, and it's been power hungry and dumps heat. I downgraded to a 5700X which sips power and notice no gaming difference. If you have a workload that needs the extra cores then go for the higher CPUs, but most games have little to no improvement with a 6 core versus 8 core.

 

[demigod]

Pretty confident that mobo is fine, it seems to just be the CPU, I might go to micro center and pick up a 5000 series to test and return. I thought about getting a 5800x3d, but don't want to spend 300-400 on one right now.

Because I OC'd it pretty hard, and I was using thermal paste, but it was unstable. Couple days later liquid metal kept it fine for years.

On a side note, if anyone wants 8x4 32GB 3600 CL14-16-16-36 kit of perfectly fine working DDR4 for call it $100 obo to offset my new ram send me a message. I used all the sticks to test in Channel A, they all worked fine.

Also as another part of my shitty weekend, I was dropping off an incorrect amazon package at whole foods on my classic Ducati, leaving whole foods, there was a hard piece of clear plastic on the road, dropped it and slid into an Uber an hour ago.

Ouch, how bad is the Ducati now?

 

[Crayon]

I wouldn't fuck with it, myself. Actually I go pretty light on coolers, so I've never seriously considered even water cooling. Liquid metal looks like a good way to add some stress to a build so that's a pass for me. Not worried about it in the playstation, though. They know what they're doing. Probabaly. Maybe.

 

[flying_sq]

Ouch, how bad is the Ducati now?

Not too bad, low side of the right, was doing about 5 mph, slowing down for a light. Snapped my foot peg, fucked up my Rizoma bar end mirror and Brembo Rcs break lever. Extremely light scratch on the Termi. Saved the body by turning the wheel into the slide. Dragged the tire along the ground instead of the tank. Settled with the Uber driver for $600 cash and probably another $400-$600 in parts. Most expensive shampoo I have ever purchased.

I was wearing my helmet, stingray leather gloves, and TCX riding shoes. Bike laid down on top of me, but the shoes can support over 1000lb of force before collapsing. Picked the bike up, paid the man, and rode home.I hit my knee off the ground, and my hand hurts a bit, but no blood, no broken bones so it's q good day.

 

[Futaleufu]

You only need regular thermal paste when the cooler is mounted properly

 

[Soltype]

Used it once on a 3770k I delidded. I had it under the IHS, and conventional paste on the top under the heatsink.The temps were so much better.

 

[Mr1999]

I did it on my 12700K between die and copper ihs , used my phones zoom feature for closeup. It dropped temps by like 9+ degrees. I sold it when I upgraded to 9800x3d and was still holding temps beautifully. Still have the video of me doing it on my phone Thankfully the 9800x3d does not really need it. Reason I did it with the 12700k was AVX-512 support and using it with RPCS3, it made the cpu crazy hot. The last 9 or 10 degrees really made the difference. They later removed AVX512 from the 12700K, I was an early adopter so I still had the version with AVX-512.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Next time use Solid Snake.

 

[flying_sq]

If you have access to a Microcenter, there's zero reason to spend a bunch of money on anything AM4. Going to single channel memory versus dual is a noticeable performance drop.

7600X have the same gaming performance as a 5800X3D, and it's $399 for a 7600X3D, motherboard, and 32GB of DDR5 bundle which will give you more memory bandwidth than your current DDR4.

I got a 5900X at launch, and it's been power hungry and dumps heat. I downgraded to a 5700X which sips power and notice no gaming difference. If you have a workload that needs the extra cores then go for the higher CPUs, but most games have little to no improvement with a 6 core versus 8 core.

What are you talking about, spending $80 for close to what I had performance vs hundreds for current or last gen stuff is crazy. I'm not worried about the cash, but I'm not dumb. I'd rather just hold out. I do have workloads that want the extra cores, I seriously debated a 9900x3d, but decided it wasn't worth it. I figured the 10 series should be a decent bump. I was debating 64 ram, but since I will be upgrading in a year or so, might as well hold out, get some crazy timing ddr5/6.

 

[SScorpio]

What are you talking about, spending $80 for close to what I had performance vs hundreds for current or last gen stuff is crazy. I'm not worried about the cash, but I'm not dumb. I'd rather just hold out. I do have workloads that want the extra cores, I seriously debated a 9900x3d, but decided it wasn't worth it. I figured the 10 series should be a decent bump. I was debating 64 ram, but since I will be upgrading in a year or so, might as well hold out, get some crazy timing ddr5/6.

That's why my first recommend was using your current CPU and four sticks of memory with a new B550 board you can get for $85-90. Only $5-10 more than you are spending on the two sticks of RAM but you'd return to full performance versus running in a degraded state.

I'm not sure if it will be the 10000 series or if AMD increments by 2000 again like the last few times and goes for 11000 or even a whole other naming scheme. But whatever name/numbering it ends up with Zen 6 does look like it will be a major increase from even the best of Zen 5. But it's still over a year away.

You should really test your board and see if it's the memory channel on the CPU being fried, or something damaged on the motherboard. Hopefully it's the motherboard and you can do the replacement of that instead. But if not, Microcenter does have the 5800XT for $129. That should give you higher clocks over the 5900X but end up using less power and moving to a single cliplet rather than the two compromised 6 core cliplets that make up the 5900X. I wasn't a fan of my 5900X and regretted it every since buying it. But IMO $150 would be the absolute max I'd put into an AM4 platform, any more than that and you're within spitting distance of a 7600x build that will compete with a 5800X3D. Rumor is that Zen 6 will still be AM5, so you could always get a good motherboard, and OK CPU and just upgrade the CPU to Zen 6 when that arrives.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Air coolers + thermal paste

It's so fucking simple

Never go outside that and you'll have reliability.

Fuck AIOs, water cooling, Liquid Metal.