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Avowed art director calls Elon Musk a "sad little shit" over Avowed gender pronoun complaints, indicates more of the same in final product
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
For whatever reason I always get Avellone and Laidlaw mixed up
Watching the HL2 documentary and Marc is all over it and Im thinking "Wasnt this dude cancelled? Cool for Valve to see past that bs."
LectureMaster
Gold Member
OG good writer:
Modern writer for modern audience:
Guy who was OG then but has been modernized:
Bonus writer:
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I wonder where Denis Dyack leans on this position. He seems like someone with a polarizing state of mind.
Bernardougf
Member
Cmon you still can see Abby man's tits!
Fbh
Member
LectureMaster
Gold Member
That's probably the best combo we could currently have.
tommib
Banned
Can I have a source on these Druckman “quotes”?OG good writer:
Modern writer for modern audience:
Guy who was OG then but has been modernized:
Bonus writer:
LectureMaster
Gold Member
It's probably memes, take it easy.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
GHG
Member
And it took approximately 28 seconds for him to be a "disappointing", alt-right" "white nationalist".
It's a sickness.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
I really hope to hear of blow back from this. Someone must have been turned down along the way
Especially looking at that team..
sachos
Member
Look at those thumbnails... people dont think a constant ingest of this trash everyday doesnt completly warps their world view?
Like in this tweet i saw posted earlier
What exactly is "Rainbow Developers" in this picture? Just women posing for a pic in their day?
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lmimmfn
Member
Oh sweet summer child
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
At a guess I would assume it means~
Nose rings
Side shaves
A touch, or more, of lesbianic fruityness
Pro nouns
Man hate
Crying
Some form of furry love
Lots of sick days
Wine
Being bitchy and catty 90% of the time
Talking about 'hot' men
Talking about how men shouldn't look at women
HR on call at all times..
Dunno, that's what I get from the picture anyway.
Madflavor
Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Chris Avellone coming in clutch.
This other guy gotta be shitting bricks right about now.
This other guy gotta be shitting bricks right about now.
Sooner
Member
And by "memes", you mean completely made-up bullshit to push a false narrative? Gotcha.
It's VERY obvious when a character display is "woke".
Absolutely NO ASS HOTS, no women in the cat pose, no breasts pushing out...its just gross.
Just look at this Staging PERFECTION..
on hang on I meant to post this
well, you get my drift
nemiroff
Gold Member
Yeah, I feel sorry for all people who think they have to subscribe to one side's fucked up shit no matter what. Fuck that slop, I dont care about "sides", I just wanna be me and eat good.
The guy is right btw; Musk really is a sad little shit. But even though he's right he didn't have to open his mouth. Many of us, if we spoke as an employee in public like that, might even be fired.
Insane? No. Obnoxious ans unnecessary, yes.
The guy is right btw; Musk really is a sad little shit. But even though he's right he didn't have to open his mouth. Many of us, if we spoke as an employee in public like that, might even be fired.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
Super Blogger is on the case to clean this mess.
Zacfoldor
Member
What does "sad little shit" even mean?
Not you specifically(and no offense meant to you brother), but why does Bluesky guy hate Elon? I think the time to finally ask "why" he is a "sad little shit" has finally arrived. Is it all just politics or what because I don't really understand and am not being intentionally obtuse.
I'll be honest I thought most of us did not love the pronoun thing in games anyway, so what's wrong with him saying what many of us believe?
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Buggy Loop
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Being associated with super hit Concord is sure a good place to be.
We all know that there's user defined tags right?
Do you really have to wonder who went out of their way to add these tags?
Astral Dog
Member
I mean, they have the right to put as many pronouns in their game as they want, their devotion to their trans religion is remarkable
At the same time, people have no obligation to buy it and Elon Musk can say whatever he wants as well, he obviously cares about art it will be the customers who decide
At the same time, people have no obligation to buy it and Elon Musk can say whatever he wants as well, he obviously cares about art it will be the customers who decide
GHG
Member
We all know that there's user defined tags right?
Do you really have to wonder who went out of their way to add these tags?
Just checked:
Those appear to be the default tags added by the developers.
Zacfoldor
Member
Hey, remember several pages ago when I said this was just getting warmed up and you ain't seen nothing yet?
Well it's still just getting warmed up and we still ain't seen nothing yet.
This deal here is going to get bigger than we thought. There is a lot of green between now and the release date and this will only fester. Swift action is needed by MS and Obsidian and it doesn't seem to be coming.
Well it's still just getting warmed up and we still ain't seen nothing yet.
This deal here is going to get bigger than we thought. There is a lot of green between now and the release date and this will only fester. Swift action is needed by MS and Obsidian and it doesn't seem to be coming.
Bumblebeetuna
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oldergamer
Member
While I find the idea of new pronouns silly, people have been using pronouns since what, the start of time. what the hell do you think Mr, Mrs, Sir, Mame, etc... are for? Even before recent pronouns used people still got insulted with you get it wrong!
Elon musk is an idiot in my opinion. he thinks the world cares about what he thinks? here's a fact. it didn't before he was here, and won't after he is gone. He should do less to seem annoying
Elon musk is an idiot in my opinion. he thinks the world cares about what he thinks? here's a fact. it didn't before he was here, and won't after he is gone. He should do less to seem annoying
Madflavor
Member
All because Matt Hansen wanted to talk about pwning chuds. If he kept his mouth shut, I'm pretty sure this discrimination shit would've continued flying under the radar.
Grummz and Elon don't have a monopoly on being stupid and cringe, and whether intentional or not, Matt clearly got baited by them.
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Bumblebeetuna
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Rational people, yes. Most of these people, no.
The funny part is you could take pretty much any developer and make a photo like this but people act like these women and these women alone are making the game
“Pronouns” is shorthand for “gender ideology pronoun declarations” in this context.
I think the crux of it is that Avowed is a single player game, right? So what purpose does having your pronouns in your character bio serve? It's not informing other players, it's just a virtue signal that your character looks one way but wants to be addressed in a different way. As a character creation flag to trigger dialogue (which IIRC how it works in BG3) that then isn't listed is one thing, but to highlight it like a linkin bio just doesn't feel like an organic part of a fantasy world.
True that, I wish he tweeted about 90% less.
The bit with Mr. and "Miss/Mrs." solved this in correspondence for hundreds of years. But as women stopped using honorifics predicated on their marital status (or had other titles instead like "Doctor") then the role of Mr./Ms. kinda fell to the wayside and here we are. IIRC the he/him she/her stuff was because folks with foreign, unusual, or gendered names needed a way to let folks know how to refer to them in emails as that technology took over. It came around about the same time as he/she or "they" in reference manuals and whatnot so the default assumption was that everyone was a guy.
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Buggy Loop
Member
Just checked:
Those appear to be the default tags added by the developers.
Click on the + and read on how steam tags work. « You can help shape the way millions of customers shop for games on steam. Just visit the steam store for your favorite game or software and apply tags that you think are appropriate or relevant to that title. Tags that are applied frequently will become featured categories »
MiguelItUp
Member
The more tags something receives, the more it will apply itself, and the more they appear in searches. I can't speak on behalf of every studio, but in my experiences we added tags to help the game be found better, fluff the SEO, etc. After launch, players can add them as well.Just checked:
Those appear to be the default tags added by the developers.
I'm not sure they'd add the first three tags. If anything MAYBE the first, but that'd be silly. It's not going to help the game be found better, lmao. I mean, that's not a genre, lol.
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Hypereides
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Madflavor
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Click on the + and read on how steam tags work. « You can help shape the way millions of customers shop for games on steam. Just visit the steam store for your favorite game or software and apply tags that you think are appropriate or relevant to that title. Tags that are applied frequently will become featured categories »
So I don't really use any communities on Steam. I just shop for games, buy them, and play em. That's it. I just looked up Avowed and those are the tags I'm currently seeing.
I think regardless of whether or not these are official or user upvoted tags, it's kind of a bad look. If I didn't know much about this game and I saw those tags while shopping around, I'd probably avoid it.
Madflavor
Member
Isn't it nice that one retard managed to stir up SO much shit and put heat on the company he works for, the day before Thanksgiving break? His team must love him right now.
GHG
Member
See my response below.
Click on the + and read on how steam tags work. « You can help shape the way millions of customers shop for games on steam. Just visit the steam store for your favorite game or software and apply tags that you think are appropriate or relevant to that title. Tags that are applied frequently will become featured categories »
You can face-palm all you like, but they are the ones adding these tags to the store page:
The SteamDB update history shows the changes the developers are making.
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sachos
Member
All of that from a single picture of women celebrating their day... Alright. And yet, people disagree about warped world views.
Buggy Loop
Member
I'm not sure the developer can do anything about it though if it is user applied, unless they tell Valve that this is a campaign against them, but again, I don't think that's much that Valve would accommodate.
So the army can go and put LGBT and politics on any games they "focus" on.