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Avowed art director calls Elon Musk a "sad little shit" over Avowed gender pronoun complaints, indicates more of the same in final product

JTCx

Member
While I find the idea of new pronouns silly, people have been using pronouns since what, the start of time. what the hell do you think Mr, Mrs, Sir, Mame, etc... are for? Even before recent pronouns used people still got insulted with you get it wrong!

Elon musk is an idiot in my opinion. he thinks the world cares about what he thinks? here's a fact. it didn't before he was here, and won't after he is gone. He should do less to seem annoying
Is that the best you got? the damage control department dont hit the same anymore, lmfao

The rat colony is getting desperate.
 

near

Gold Member
See my response below.



You can face-palm all you like, but they are the ones adding these tags to the store page:

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The SteamDB update history shows the changes the developers are making.
The change list will also show user defined tags. If the developer actually had control over this why would they add and remove the LGBTQ tag on several occasions a few days prior?

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Also, I'm sure they'd also define there game as a psychological horror haha!

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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The SteamDB update history shows the changes the developers are making.

How do you know SteamDB only lists changes the developers are making?

I doubt Obsidian are changing the tag from Action RPG to Psychological Horror.


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Also, the Steam page clearly states: Popular user-defined tags for this product:

You don't see that if you're on mobile, which your last picture is from. Open the game's page on a desktop browser and you'll see that.
 
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The LGBTQ+ is a movement that cannot reproduce, it will naturally disappear or stay very residual.
To replicate itself it needs to recurrently find new (living) hosts, why these predatory practices aim children who are much more exposed to be influenced by such confusion. It's vile and sick and needs to be fought back.
I'm sorry, but that reasoning is stupid, and I'm the first one who is sick to death of the whole LGTBQ+, DEI and victimhood thing. But being gay is not something that is taught, or that if you have gay parents you're going to be gay too. It's a sexual preference that anyone can have regardless of their upbringing and background. I think it's great to criticise the level of stupidity that activism has reached, but we mustn't lose our bearings.
 

GHG

Member
The change list will also show user defined tags. If the developer actually had control over this why would they add and remove the LGBTQ tag on several occasions a few days prior?

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Also, I'm sure they'd also define there game as a psychological horror haha!

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The change list shows application or package change data, it's from the developers side.

Look at all those pesky users adding language information and images to the page:

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Them adding and removing tags can be down to any number of reasons, but it's most likely due to toying with store visibility.
 
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Humdinger

Gold Member
While I find the idea of new pronouns silly, people have been using pronouns since what, the start of time. what the hell do you think Mr, Mrs, Sir, Mame, etc... are for? Even before recent pronouns used people still got insulted with you get it wrong!

People aren't objecting to the use of pronouns. They are objecting to this sort of thing - and to the ideology that goes with it - being forced into their games/entertainment:


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Hopefully, Avowed's pronouns don't go too far beyond "they/them"....

Btw, I don't believe Mr. and Mrs. are pronouns; I think they are considered titles.
 
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Sooner

Member
Yeah, I feel sorry for all people who think they have to subscribe to one side's fucked up shit no matter what. Fuck that slop, I dont care about "sides", I just wanna be me and eat good.


Insane? No. Obnoxious ans unnecessary, yes.

The guy is right btw; Musk really is a sad little shit. But even though he's right he didn't have to open his mouth. Many of us, if we spoke as an employee in public like that, might even be fired.
Nah, Musk is the hero we need. And people do need to take a stand.

We got yo this point where blue-haired perverts are running the show, because not enough people like Musk are willing to take a stand against woke cancel culture
 

GHG

Member
User tags

It captures the tag changes, including user tags. That's SteamDB's job, tracking. It's all automatic.

How do you know SteamDB only lists changes the developers are making?

I doubt Obsidian are changing the tag from Action RPG to Psychological Horror.


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Also, the Steam page clearly states: Popular user-defined tags for this product:

You don't see that if you're on mobile, which your last picture is from. Open the game's page on a desktop browser and you'll see that.

Ok guys, I've got it. This was them:

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But any time those awful tags have been added, it's down to users meddling with their tags.

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near

Gold Member
The change list shows application or package change data, it's from the developers side.

Look at all those pesky users adding language information and images to the page:

QAmR4uG.jpeg
vBYdKOP.jpeg


Them adding and removing tags can be down to any number of reasons, but it's most likely due to toying with store visibility.
It identifies changes developers make, but the way tags work on Steam would also be reflected in the data recorded on steamdb.
 

lmimmfn

Member
I spent a fascinating 8 hours talking to chatgpt about woke a week last Saturday. I had to tweak it to bypass the tame for public nonsense, but a
put it like this all this woke crap in movies and games makes sense and I've got to give it to them the execution is absolutely sublime.
 

Sooner

Member
Oh boy wait until Elder Scrolls VI....
If they/them pull this BS with that, I'll gladly skip it too.

It's not like that's a huge blow. Bethesda has been passed and lapped several times over since Skyrim. It probably be a huge disappointment with or without a strong woke political agenda.
 

near

Gold Member
This side ploy of tags is gripping. Can someone do a recap.

Can't one of you just add a random tag to see if it gets added?
The game has the tags in the screenshots posted in this thread. Some are suggesting it's defined by the developer. But it isn't.

Tags get added/changed by popular vote:

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SomeGit

Member
One day I'll understand this obsession with pronouns. Like in a big picture way, what's the point of someone pronouns? Why even include it, how many times is the game going to present something where the player is in the third person and you couldn't avoid it by just using the player name.
Starfield has personal pronouns how many times were they used? It's the stupidest hill to die on.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This side ploy of tags is gripping. Can someone do a recap.

Can't one of you just add a random tag to see if it gets added?

You can add any tag, those which get the most repeat traction get on the recommended list and can even surpass developer tags as the leading ones on the page.


Q. Does my product start out with tags applied to it?

A. Yes, the genres that you select for your game or software will become the initial set of tags applied to your product. These may then eventually become surpassed as the most relevant tags on your product if users are frequently applying another tag.


You got it GHG GHG

Cracked the case.



Oh, a tag switched place, from... voting, and putting the most voted tag first, wow

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Forgive my brother GHG GHG , it's way past midnight in his neck of the world, so it's probably the lack of sleep.
 
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xHunter

Member
The change list shows application or package change data, it's from the developers side.

Look at all those pesky users adding language information and images to the page:

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vBYdKOP.jpeg


Them adding and removing tags can be down to any number of reasons, but it's most likely due to toying with store visibility.
The user tag commits are most likely automated:

This is the last "updates" changelist, with all the apps/games that got updated with this change. I looked through 2-3 random and they all changed the user tags. Even with the same message as your last post:


Sims 4, same date when the change happened. Steamdb seems to also track user tags being changed due to steam automatically updating them when enough users apply that tag to the game. They should update the UI on these.
 

GHG

Member
This side ploy of tags is gripping. Can someone do a recap.

Can't one of you just add a random tag to see if it gets added?

Our young Xbros are just starting to learn how steam works.

They are always called "user defined tags" regardless of their source (the developer or the community). In fact, in order to even list a game on Steam you need to assign at least 5 of these tags to your game.

Here is an example of a game that has literally just listed on Steam today and probably hasn't even been viewed by more than a handful of people due to its obscurity:


And here are the tags:

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None of which are actually user defined.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Our young Xbros are just starting to learn how steam works.

They are always called "user defined tags" regardless of their source (the developer or the community). In fact, in order to even list a game on Steam you need to assign at least 5 of these tags to your game.

Here is an example of a game that has literally just listed on Steam today and probably hasn't even been viewed by more than a handful of people due to its obscurity:


And here are the tags:

None of which are actually user defined.




Q. Does my product start out with tags applied to it?

A. Yes, the genres that you select for your game or software will become the initial set of tags applied to your product. These may then eventually become surpassed as the most relevant tags on your product if users are frequently applying another tag.


Take a wild guess which tags have suddenly started being applied to Avowed en-masse in the last couple of days, G.

🤭

The young Xbros have learnt how Steam works faster than the so called veterans.

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Buggy Loop

Member
Our young Xbros are just starting to learn how steam works.

They are always called "user defined tags" regardless of their source (the developer or the community). In fact, in order to even list a game on Steam you need to assign at least 5 of these tags to your game.

Here is an example of a game that has literally just listed on Steam today and probably hasn't even been viewed by more than a handful of people due to its obscurity:


And here are the tags:

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None of which are actually user defined.


Do you want to pull the power of all GAF users and that we add GHG tag to a game for you to understand how it works, as it is plainly laid out by Steam?
 

GHG

Member
Do you want to pull the power of all GAF users and that we add GHG tag to a game for you to understand how it works, as it is plainly laid out by Steam?

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Take a wild guess which tags have suddenly started being applied to Avowed en-masse in the last couple of days, G.

🤭

The young Xbros have learnt how Steam works faster than the so called veterans.

Basketball Ok GIF by Malcolm France

You're free to also read through this which outlines things from the developers side:

 
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sainraja

Member
Do you want to pull the power of all GAF users and that we add GHG tag to a game for you to understand how it works, as it is plainly laid out by Steam?
I am not that concerned with how tagging works with steam; however, the label is "user defined tags" so, a user of steam can be a gamer or a developer who added the tag. So far, from what I have followed, it is not clear, based on what steam shows, how a tag was initially added, but both user types: gamers and developers can add tags or select tags to apply to a game.
 
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The craziest thing is the guy straight up said "wait until you see the default option" like a threat. It confirms peoples concerns about forced ideology in these games. How can any reasonable person give these studios the benefit of the doubt going forward?
These sick nasty fucked up woke lunatics are among the worse in the world. They aren't just simply insane people like those crazy folks that talks to themselves that you sometimes see in the subway but the woke psychopaths are insane and also expects others to accept and agree with them which is completely messed up and sick. Good news is that not only is the majority of the world against them or at least don't support them but more and more people are starting to dislike them now. Bad news is because the world is so populated that even 10% of these crazy freaks is too many.
What would be funny is if they replaced him with a black guy who hates all the woke stuff and just draws big boobed women all the time. 😂
They'll only hired one if the person shares the same sick and twisted insane views and thoughts as them.
The sad cunt was spamming me with triggered emojis for quite some time as well.
Yeah that Stu Hart weirdo has also been doing it to me too which is good cause that person obviously supports the disgusting insane woke side and doesn't even try to be slick about it so if I'm triggering him or her or it than I'm doing something right.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
I don't think there is anything objectively wrong with being against pronoun usage in games. It's not like saying something like "Having a female character in a game? Games should only have male characters!"

But it seems he wanted to just virtue signal to his followers on bluskee, a platform no one uses.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
What's funny is just the initial Elon post wasn't going to harm much. But now after this one idiot's " internet bad ass " tantrum the whole line of people / companies who don't even know they are involved yet are going to feel it.. lol if this dumbass still has a job at the end of the year I will be highly surprised. 😂
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You're free to also read through this which outlines things from the developers side:


I did, it says the same thing as the other page on Steam's own website.

Note that tags and their relative weights may change over time as members of the community apply them to your game. While this tends not to fluctuate over time, you can revisit your tags and their weights using the Tag Wizard at any time.

And once again, looking at the SteamDB dates, which tags do you see that are being applied to the game widely since the last week.

Give up your Steam card, G. You have been undone by young Xbros. 🙏
 
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I don't think there is anything objectively wrong with being against pronoun usage in games. It's not like saying something like "Having a female character in a game? Games should only have male characters!"

But it seems he wanted to just virtue signal to his followers on bluskee, a platform no one uses.
Agreed it's not the same thing. The former is putting in twisted nasty woke crap which nobody in their right mind should want in the first place while the latter is sexist since both male and female characters deserves to be in games and there's plenty of awesome female characters from FF cast, Darkstalkers, Tekken. ZELDA, Stellar Blade, Samus etc etc.
 

GHG

Member
I did, it says the same thing as the other page on Steam's own website.



And once again, looking at the SteamDB dates, which tags do you see that are being applied to the game widely since the last week.

Give up your Steam card, G. You have been undone by young Xbros. 🙏

The LGBTQ tag was added 11 days ago, long before any of this controversy started and before the latest batch of previews even dropped:

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That also happened to be around the time that they were cleaning up the store page in advance of the previews:

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Steam users must have time travelling abilities and crystal balls.

You guys have gone from crying about Steam reviews destroying Microsoft's mediocre games on Steam to now blaming users for the tags that have clearly been applied by the developers. Tough times.
 
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