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https://www.gamesradar.com/avowed-d...-a-lukewarm-reception-during-the-xbox-direct/

Summary Via:

- They are aware of the vocal feedback around combat [impact]; it's something they already know about and are actively working on. The footage shown in the Developer_Direct was already weeks behind what was the current build (at the time of filming).

- Players will find themselves one foot between a grounded political story and a metaphysical story about gods and souls

- There will be things to find in the environment (Cohh's question was targeted around loot, environmental storytelling, notes etc.)

- Classless system but skill trees will allow for speccing into more traditional 'archetypes' if a player wants

- Companion skill trees are locked to a specific archetype, but will allow for variations

- Different enemy attacks can impact the player (knockdown, push, unblockable etc.)

- Not discussing endings or NG+ at this time

- Some character creation decisions will have mechanical and roleplay impacts

- Scope is similar to The Outer Worlds (question was about playtime, critical path vs. 100% completion)

- Weapon upgrade system (not mandatory, but recommended)

- Party camp will follow you through the game (no base building)

- Similar difficulty options in their previous games (story time, path of the damned)

- Grimoire magic still in the game, just wasn't shown at the direct (can also dual wield grimoire + wand for quick magic and powerful spells)

- Can't speak much about the stat system, but the general idea is they don't want a system that corners players into potential bad decisions. Want to present a fun set of options for the player.

- Can't speak much on bosses yet, but the idea around combat encounters is to present a variety of enemies that will challenge the player and not make them feel too complacent with sticking to one play style. Want to encourage swapping weapon sets.

- Playing PoE 1 and 2 are not required to understand what's going on

- No mini-games

- Day and Night system is there, but doesn't affect gameplay

- No mounts, some combat abilities affect movement (charge, etc.)

- Tease about some gear can affect things like movement

 

[CherryFalls]

Great news and good for them. This is why having standards and calling out is a good thing rather than being a fanboy and pretending everything is fine, the devs improve, we get a better game, we all win.

 

[diffusionx]

For a game due out this year, and has been in development for a long time, it's really rough.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

sounds good.

There is a big summery of points in tweet, that story bit sounds interesting. Hopefully game will have good writing.

 

[Magic Carpet]

The game felt like a reskinned Outer Worlds to me.

 

[ungalo]

They said it has the same scale than The Outer Worlds so very disappointing to me. It's 20 hours, 30 at best.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Great news. I want something akin to Vermintide 2 like they said they were striving for.

 

[Heisenberg007]

For a game due out this year, and has been in development for a long time, it's really rough.

Very much possible that the extra work on combat delays the game now. It was already "Fall 2024", and this may push it into 2025.

 

[diffusionx]

Very much possible that the extra work on combat delays the game now. It was already "Fall 2024", and this may push it into 2025.

Yea I predicted this is going to get a delay at some point, I doubt they're happy with the reception it's gotten.

 

[Gaiff]

Mediocre game incoming. If they needed people to know the combat looked like shit this late into development, then it’s another forgettable game in the making.

 

[Sushi_Combo]

Awesome, can't wait to play this on my Ps5.

 

[killatopak]

Good. That's one of my critisms.

Thank god I can finally criticize these studios without getting accused of console warring. Thank Xbox.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Good. That's one of my critisms.

Thank god I can finally criticize these studios without getting accused of console warring. Thank Xbox.

Seriously! This is the best thing to come out of all this.

 

[Negotiator101]

For a game due out this year, and has been in development for a long time, it's really rough.

How long has it been in development?

 

[Flabagast]

Work on the dialogue system instead. After CP77 and BG3 what was shown wont pass at all.

Might try it after discount on PS5 if they address these issues, we’ll see

 

[Gudji]

Well fuck at least in this one they already found the gameplay.

 

[_Idea_of_Evil_]

The wand animations/combat looked extremely underwhelming. Go back to hand casting like in the teaser reveal. Everything else looked ok.

 

[Hudo]

They should just look at Dark Messiah of Might & Magic and make the combat feel and play like that. DMoMM is still fucking unmatched.

 

[SkylineRKR]

The game looked like trash to be honest.

 

[Joshmyersbv]

Mediocre game incoming. If they needed people to know the combat looked like shit this late into development, then it’s another forgettable game in the making.

Agreed and I think Carrie might be in over her head here. It's not just the combat, but I'm not a fan of the dialogue system and the narrative seems meh which should be her strength.

The game to me just feels like an expansion of a much bigger game not a AAA game itself. Just like how The Outer Worlds felt.

 

[Krieger]

They can keep this game exclusive on the Xbox. Seriously.

 

[Jigsaah]

I'm smelling a delay.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

Delay it. There’s no way this releases this year based on what they showed.

 

[cormack12]

I've seen this game three times now. A tease, a trailer then an in game look. It's looked like three different games tbh

 

[spons]

Edit: nah, don't want to add to the console war. Day's already good enough as it is.

 

[Topher]

I've seen this game three times now. A tease, a trailer then an in game look. It's looked like three different games tbh

Pretty much. Doesn't feel like they have a solid vision behind it. That was my take after the dev direct.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Sounds awesome! Ps5 gamers are going to be in for a treat as well as gamepass subscribers!

 

[Pedro Motta]

Sounds awesome! Ps5 gamers are going to be in for a treat as well as gamepass subscribers!

 

[Heisenberg007]

Pretty much. Doesn't feel like they have a solid vision behind it. That was my take after the dev direct.

I think the reboot is the culprit for this disjointed feel.

They had something; cooked something vastly different, and then joined the two visions to make the game as soon as possible. That's the vibe I am getting.

 

[Topher]

I think the reboot is the culprit for this disjointed feel.

They had something; cooked something vastly different, and then joined the two visions to make the game as soon as possible. That's the vibe I am getting.

I'm getting Scalebound vibes.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Game developer still working on game in development?

 

[Ozriel]

Mediocre game incoming. If they needed people to know the combat looked like shit this late into development, then it’s another forgettable game in the making.

Literally the first line says they were already working on it before the feedback. Read?

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

I thought during the Direct that there's a strong chance this gets delayed out of 2024 for polish. They should take as long as they need.

 

[Mozzarella]

Its a first person swordplay type of combat, i dont think it will get that much better, the potential is limited and most people will dunk on it anyway because its not third person.
I'd say yes improve it, do the combat better...by all means.
But your primary focus should be on immersion, quest quality, writing, story, world design, rpg mechanics and characters.
Those things will make or break the game, improved combat will solidify it.

My hopes for this game are not that high, i expect it will be a 7/10 RPG, its good to tame expectations, especially after The Outer Worlds, but i'd take a good surprise.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

It looks like a decent last gen VR game to me. Reminds me The Mage's Tale from InXile.

 

[Gudji]

I thought during the Direct that there's a strong chance this gets delayed out of 2024 for polish. They should take as long as they need.

Will it come out before everwild tho?

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

I honestly thought it looked fine for what they showed. Guess I'm in the minority.

 

[gow3isben]

Isn’t it coming out in a few months lol

 

[Laptop1991]

Couldn't they see that without the lukewarm feedback, i noticed it straight away, the game is off my shopping list as of right now after what they've shown recently.

 

[JusticeForAll]

I've seen this game three times now. A tease, a trailer then an in game look. It's looked like three different games tbh

Yes, and each one worse than the one before.

 

[clintar]

The game looked like trash to be honest.

Yeah, might just scrap it if this is what they came up with so far.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Will it come out before everwild tho?

That game doesn't exist. At least not unless we see it shown again.

 

[Puscifer]

For a game due out this year, and has been in development for a long time, it's really rough.

FWIW Sony Santa Monica said they didn't figure out the core combat loop of GoW 18 till about 6 months before launch, and that game has a crazy loop if you get deep into it so I'm sure they can pull this off

 

[dottme]

Literally the first line says they were already working on it before the feedback. Read?

That’s even a worst excuse. Why show something bad if they know it looks bad and it won’t even be in the game.

 

[Metnut]

Pumped to play the definitive version of this on PS5Pro once it’s suitably discounted.

30 hours sounds wonderful given my backlog.

 

[Ozriel]

That’s even a worst excuse. Why show something bad if they know it looks bad and it won’t even be in the game.

What a weird comment.
Of course Combat will be in the game. They’re showing it while putting a disclaimer at the bottom that the game is in alpha stage…so improvements are expected. The combat showing was more to focus on the customizable combat layout, dual wielding, chaining moves and spells etc.

 

[JayK47]

Last minute rework. This game is going to be a mess. The whole dang game looks lukewarm. Are they going to revamp the whole game?

 

[cash_longfellow]

“Working on” that ps5 patch

 

[Ozriel]

Last minute rework. This game is going to be a mess. The whole dang game looks lukewarm. Are they going to revamp the whole game?

The manufactured hysteria around this game is hilarious as fuck.
Game’s in alpha stage. Release is more than half a year away. ‘Last minute’?

Developers say they’re taking feedback on combat impact. You’re arguing they’re going to need to revamp the whole game as a result. Wut?

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Hopefully the combat is better in time for the PS5 release.