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It's okay if they don't get right at launch they have until the PS5 port to fix it
Yep, and I really hope writing, characters and storytelling is better. Outer Worlds was iffy on all of that.They said it has the same scale than The Outer Worlds so very disappointing to me. It's 20 hours, 30 at best.
It's okay if they don't get right at launch they have until the PS5 port to fix it
Very much possible that the extra work on combat delays the game now. It was already "Fall 2024", and this may push it into 2025.
I agree. And this works especially when they listen which clearly obsidian are.Great news and good for them. This is why having standards and calling out is a good thing rather than being a fanboy and pretending everything is fine, the devs improve, we get a better game, we all win.
Hey! We ain’t allowed to say we like starfield Around hereSame thing happened with Starfield.
Final game plays pretty good. Their initial showing was even worse than this.
Hey! We ain’t allowed to say we like starfield Around here
*whispers* : psst…. I think the game is good but I’ll wait till that shattered space DLC to start a proper play through. Bethesda games are never that good at launch. They get good good after hey patch the shot out them… i just play other games in the meantime
Some of the clunkiest, boring looking combat I've ever seen
whats with all the hate?
I loved the outer world and personally can't wait for their take on a medieval themed game similar to it.
people need to temper their expectations more; not everything will be new vegas...
To get combat right, we need you to spend $20/month. - Phil . . . probably.
Very much possible that the extra work on combat delays the game now. It was already "Fall 2024", and this may push it into 2025.
Hey! We ain’t allowed to say we like starfield Around here
*whispers* : psst…. I think the game is good but I’ll wait till that shattered space DLC to start a proper play through. Bethesda games are never that good at launch. They get good good after hey patch the shot out them… i just play other games in the meantime
Huh, well I guess gamers were not avowed.
Which, from the studio that did alpha protocol, this is insane. This is not that obsidian.Work on the dialogue system instead. After CP77 and BG3 what was shown wont pass at all.
Might try it after discount on PS5 if they address these issues, we’ll see
Well many people strongly disliked outer world and this game sound less and less ambitious for every news we get.whats with all the hate?
I loved the outer world and personally can't wait for their take on a medieval themed game similar to it.
people need to temper their expectations more; not everything will be new vegas...
Talk about thread necromancy.
That being said, even to this day project looks like an unwanted child. Avowed is clearly a salvage operation from the failed bigger game and Obsidian’s heart is clearly somewhere else.
They have the pre-built excuse that obsidian has always been shit at making combat and that rpgs don't need good combat like action games...Wow the preview build was several weeks old? SEVERAL? Because we all know nobody accomplishes miracles in mere weeks like the champs at Microsoft Game Studios.
My guess is that the dev studio, like many others, has fostered a climate of safe speak and nobody was able to point out how laughably sloppy the combat looked until it hit public eyes. It's not a first time it happened.
Talk about thread necromancy.
That being said, even to this day project looks like an unwanted child. Avowed is clearly a salvage operation from the failed bigger game and Obsidian’s heart is clearly somewhere else.
In every interview, the studio sounds very excited about this project.
So like just about every game before its launch? That included Redfall.
Their excitement for a project is expected (it's their baby), and meaningless to the quality of the end product.
well thats certainly news to me. I played TOW spacer's choice just last month and enjoyed it for what it was. The scope was limited for sure but i thought it was a tightly'knit game.Well many people strongly disliked outer world and this game sound less and less ambitious for every news we get.
Let's just say the game doesn't exude extreme confidence for now.
Really? Because i can't think about a topic here on gaf regarding that game that didn't had controversial opinions about it except maybe the first days of the ot with the honeymoon effect in full swing (i thought the game was good for the first hours aswell).well thats certainly news to me. I played TOW spacer's choice just last month and enjoyed it for what it was. The scope was limited for sure but i thought it was a tightly'knit game.
then certainly its a problem with the fans and their expectations?Really? Because i can't think about a topic here on gaf regarding that game that didn't had controversial opinions about it except maybe the first days of the ot with the honeymoon effect in full swing (i thought the game was good for the first hours aswell).
The scope was not the problem btw (it is more of a problem with awoved because people thought it was obsidian skyrim).
That being said, even to this day project looks like an unwanted child. Avowed is clearly a salvage operation from the failed bigger game and Obsidian’s heart is clearly somewhere else.
I think someone posted something said by microsoft or obsidian that were promising a big scope and the game seems to be in kinda of a development hell, not as much as something like the new rare game but not smooth sailing neither, so the project was probably downsized a little.then certainly its a problem with the fans and their expectations?
why assume the outer worlds = space new vegas, avowed = obsidian skyrim??
the studio explicitly said that these are smaller games with smaller budgets and shorter playtime. What am I missing here?
btw i'm not that frequent on neogaf.
true, but didn't they retract that and said that the game would be the same size and scope as the outer worlds a few weeks back? Why all the bitterness for an inoffensive upcoming singleplayer game?I think someone posted something said by microsoft or obsidian that were promising a big scope and the game seems to be in kinda of a development hell, not as much as something like the new rare game but not smooth sailing neither, so the project was probably downsized a little.
Every news we have about the game is about missing features and when you get acquired by fucking microsoft people expect for the scope and ambitions of your game to grow, not to shrink.
Dude almost no dev lie about the size of their games, they are not more onest than any other dev out there.true, but didn't they retract that and said that the game would be the same size and scope as the outer worlds a few weeks back? Why all the bitterness for an inoffensive upcoming singleplayer game?
The way i see it they are being punished for being transparent (something thats sorely lacking in this rotting industry) by entitled gamers up their own heads.
All well, guess we'll have to hope it pleasantly surprises us then,Dude almost no dev lie about the size of their games, they are not more onest than any other dev out there.
Hell, most developers gave a shorter estimation of their games duration to not get called out by gamers after the release or because they don't consider how autistic (in a good way) gamers are.
I think people are still mad because they were expecting the very, first full fledged triple A game from obsidian now that they had microsoft behind, and instead we have another unambitious, relatively small title and contrary to what you think, outer world was all except an overwhelming success loved by everyone so there is some fear when it comes to obsidian now.
true, but didn't they retract that and said that the game would be the same size and scope as the outer worlds a few weeks back? Why all the bitterness for an inoffensive upcoming singleplayer game?
The way i see it they are being punished for being transparent (something thats sorely lacking in this rotting industry) by entitled gamers up their own heads.
CEO Feargus Urquhart told me that in scope Avowed is more akin to Obsidian's past RPGs like The Outer Worlds in size than it is a sprawling open world a la Skyrim, though that was actually Obsidian's initial pitch. When the developers sat down and focused on what Obsidian does best—stories and companions, in particular—the more compact scale came naturally.
I also want to like it. I didn't care for The Outer Worlds because I just couldn't get into the setting and style of humor. But I do like the Pillars of Eternity setting and I do like good first-person melee combat. I don't expect it to be on par with Dark Messiah of Might and Magic in that regard but I doesn't need to be as long as it feels good. They still have time to work on hit responses of the enemies and make each hit feel satisfying. I will still wait for reviews/Youtube footage tho.GAF hates it.
I'm in.