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Bangai-O HD Missile Fury |OT| It's Not a Shmup
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Windom Earle
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Will buy when my backlog is done! Slowdown is MANDATORY for Bangai-O.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
want to buy now but gotta listen to giantbombcast WHAT DO GAF!!?
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Bought it earlier and.....despite being a huge fan of the Dreamcast version I'm not getting on too well with this initially 
I'm putting it down to not having learnt the mechanics (freezing, counter, dash) yet, so hopefully the more time I put into it the more I'll start to enjoy it.
I'm putting it down to not having learnt the mechanics (freezing, counter, dash) yet, so hopefully the more time I put into it the more I'll start to enjoy it.
Heck yeah, top 10 in stage 1. First and probably only time I'll be on any top 10 leaderboards, and will likely be short-lived.
The tutorial mode tells you everything it does in the 'How To Play' section of Help & Options. Instead of giving you 29 pages of everything at once, it breaks it down into Basic Controls, Dash Skills, and EX Skills and gives you the opportunity to practice each of those segments to get the hang of it.
If you are having troubles on a stage, you can look at the Leaderboards and watch replays of the top 10 players to see how they did it.
I do miss the ability to choose whatever weapons you want before a stage, though.
The tutorial mode tells you everything it does in the 'How To Play' section of Help & Options. Instead of giving you 29 pages of everything at once, it breaks it down into Basic Controls, Dash Skills, and EX Skills and gives you the opportunity to practice each of those segments to get the hang of it.
If you are having troubles on a stage, you can look at the Leaderboards and watch replays of the top 10 players to see how they did it.
I do miss the ability to choose whatever weapons you want before a stage, though.
AndyMoogle
Member
Every game on XBLA has a "Help & Options" section. It's basically a digital manual and you should get used to using it because that's the future standard for manuals.waru said:
wayward archer
Member
Welp I bought this game immediately after finally beating stage 3.
If you are having trouble with it just hold down the right trigger to stay in perpetual dash mode and counter (left trigger... recharged by all those fruits that are flying at you as you kill stuff) as frequently as possible. It does help to try and take out the large robots first (the guys that spin around and the baseball bat and ninja robots) as quickly as possible because they can kill you if you miss a counter.
Also launch your counter attacks before they hit 100 otherwise you will start taking damage (you basically die instantly if one of the big robots is nearby).
Also the lower right room has a ton of guided missile launchers in it so it's a good idea to take that out quickly, switch to the fast shot and use the right stick to aim the counter attack straight into them (or just dash right up into the middle of them and unleash it in all directions) otherwise most of your missiles will be absorbed by the missiles they are firing.
Gonna wait to play the full game tonight but already i'm pumped up from the 3 stages in the trial.
If you are having trouble with it just hold down the right trigger to stay in perpetual dash mode and counter (left trigger... recharged by all those fruits that are flying at you as you kill stuff) as frequently as possible. It does help to try and take out the large robots first (the guys that spin around and the baseball bat and ninja robots) as quickly as possible because they can kill you if you miss a counter.
Also launch your counter attacks before they hit 100 otherwise you will start taking damage (you basically die instantly if one of the big robots is nearby).
Also the lower right room has a ton of guided missile launchers in it so it's a good idea to take that out quickly, switch to the fast shot and use the right stick to aim the counter attack straight into them (or just dash right up into the middle of them and unleash it in all directions) otherwise most of your missiles will be absorbed by the missiles they are firing.
Gonna wait to play the full game tonight but already i'm pumped up from the 3 stages in the trial.
Anyone willing to provide a summary of changes to the gameplay versus Spirits? People keep mentioning the counter, is that something different from the EX attack? What are the available weapons in this game (I.e. are Break and Napalm shots still in, etc.)
Going to end up buying it regardless, but I'm too curious to wait until I get home and download it to find out the differences.
Going to end up buying it regardless, but I'm too curious to wait until I get home and download it to find out the differences.
LOVING IT so far. only up to stage 9 or 10 though.
i have a top 10 and a top 2 time so far. weeee day 1! you know that shit will be gone in an hour.
he tells you to watch for the item that drops. the giant drops Napalm (im pretty sure thats it), you have to shoot it and pick it up, then anything that gets close to you blows up real good.
it automatically switches to the new wep when you get it. just shoot and avoid getting surrounded.
*edit: i posted new pics in the OP. in the one with the ants you can see the power up you are supposed to get at the bottom of the screen. that guy died. gotta get the Napalm asap.
BUY BUY BUY!
i feel the same way. didnt love Spirits, thought it was ok. loving this so far though.
off the top of my head (might get some stuff wrong, havent played Spirits in forever):
you cant choose weapon load out. its based on the stage.
right trigger gives you invulnerable Dash, or Freeze. important to learn how to use this properly. you have a gauge of three that recharges in 3 seconds or when you use an EX attack.
X button puts you in MAX mode. you have unlimited Dash and your weapons are at max power. after it wears off, you are immobile though.
i have a top 10 and a top 2 time so far. weeee day 1! you know that shit will be gone in an hour.
acidspunk said:anyone know what to do in stage 8? I killed the giant ant and was immediately swarmed by smaller ants and insta-killed..
he tells you to watch for the item that drops. the giant drops Napalm (im pretty sure thats it), you have to shoot it and pick it up, then anything that gets close to you blows up real good.
it automatically switches to the new wep when you get it. just shoot and avoid getting surrounded.
*edit: i posted new pics in the OP. in the one with the ants you can see the power up you are supposed to get at the bottom of the screen. that guy died. gotta get the Napalm asap.
Rygar 8 Bit said:
BUY BUY BUY!
geebee said:
i feel the same way. didnt love Spirits, thought it was ok. loving this so far though.
Mike M said:
off the top of my head (might get some stuff wrong, havent played Spirits in forever):
you cant choose weapon load out. its based on the stage.
right trigger gives you invulnerable Dash, or Freeze. important to learn how to use this properly. you have a gauge of three that recharges in 3 seconds or when you use an EX attack.
X button puts you in MAX mode. you have unlimited Dash and your weapons are at max power. after it wears off, you are immobile though.
Absolute initial impression: lol, what a visual hot joke this is. Initially absolutely unreadable.
I'm glad Treasure made the right call and got rid of the weapon select screen. Such a dumb decision in the DS game that definitely took it down a few notches.
I'm buying this, I think. That reason above combined with the first three stages make me guess that this is definitely going to be better than Spirits.
I'm glad Treasure made the right call and got rid of the weapon select screen. Such a dumb decision in the DS game that definitely took it down a few notches.
I'm buying this, I think. That reason above combined with the first three stages make me guess that this is definitely going to be better than Spirits.
I. Need. This. Game.
I don't have a 360. That's a problem.
I need to get a 360.
What a predicament.
Loved the shit out of Spirits and this sounds like Spirits with a little more emphasis on the puzzle elements. One thing I found overwhelming about Spirits was the ability to choose whatever weapons I wanted before each stage, because there were a lot of combinations. On the flipside, I loved re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-retrying stages with different weapon combos to see how I could beat each stage differently! That's something I'll miss with this game.
All y'all bitches: You stink.
I don't have a 360. That's a problem.
I need to get a 360.
What a predicament.
Loved the shit out of Spirits and this sounds like Spirits with a little more emphasis on the puzzle elements. One thing I found overwhelming about Spirits was the ability to choose whatever weapons I wanted before each stage, because there were a lot of combinations. On the flipside, I loved re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-retrying stages with different weapon combos to see how I could beat each stage differently! That's something I'll miss with this game.
All y'all bitches: You stink.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
This game is brutal.
Kind of stuck at this one mission.
I can get through it well enough but the boss is a giant ant spawner that can only be reached by directed counter-attacks. It's a real pain.
Co-op is uh...unplayable? At least from the few games I've played. CRAZY slow-motion.
Either system-link or goodass online connections is the way to go.
Kind of stuck at this one mission.
I can get through it well enough but the boss is a giant ant spawner that can only be reached by directed counter-attacks. It's a real pain.
Co-op is uh...unplayable? At least from the few games I've played. CRAZY slow-motion.
Either system-link or goodass online connections is the way to go.
wayward archer
Member
Tain said:
It only works on that level because there are tons of fruits (which recharge your counter ability)... in most levels you'll have to fight normally since counter recharging will be more sparse.
The Dash is not 'perpetual', you can only do a Dash action 3 times before the Dash Gauge has to refill.Tain said:
That said, however, there are several things you can do that make you invulnerable. Dashing is one of them. While you're charging the 'Counter Attack' (called EX Attack in Spirits) you are invulnerable up until the charge reaches 100. Tapping the Dash button will use up one of your EX gauges , but it increases the multiplier of your Counter Attack and also resets the 'charge' counter to Zero, basically letting you extend your invulnerability if you chain them together. You can get up to a 4X multiplier on your Counter Attack this way, as long as you have the EX Gauges for it.
The small yellow reticule around Bangai-O turns into a kind of timer whenever you are invulnerable so you know approximately how long it is before you start taking damage.
jufonuk
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this plus no baseball bat awo :'( i am sure treasure have a reason, when I first play Spirits I didn't like it as well as the DC game then it clicked and destroyed the DC game in my mind .. lets see if this does it to, though doubt it can beat spirits , but we'll seeJKTrix said:
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Are all the levels unlocked or is their progression, something that the DS version lacked?
Which is why I didn't like the DS version as much. The game was still cool but there was no story or a sense of progression.
Which is why I didn't like the DS version as much. The game was still cool but there was no story or a sense of progression.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Basically you get one level at a time(out of 100 or so).
If you win you can go on to the next level. If you lose three times in a row you can also go to the next level, although it's shameful.
Fact of the matter is you will lose a lot.
If you win you can go on to the next level. If you lose three times in a row you can also go to the next level, although it's shameful.
Fact of the matter is you will lose a lot.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
I think that's better than having everything unlocked, which I didn't like in the DS version. It made the game feel pointless and it didn't compel me to play the levels especially since they were brutally hard.PepsimanVsJoe said:
At least the XBLA version gives you that sense of accomplishment.
Thanks for the info.
i've only put in ~1 hr so far, but im really liking it. playing it on a 22" tv sucks though.
treasure is my favorite dev ever, but does anyone else feel kind of let down they haven't made an original ip in pretty much forever? they could make a killing on xbla with original games if they wanted to.
treasure is my favorite dev ever, but does anyone else feel kind of let down they haven't made an original ip in pretty much forever? they could make a killing on xbla with original games if they wanted to.
grindamasta
Member
Maybe the best Bangai-O. It would have been awesome to upload and share levels with everybody...
So far better than spirits but worse than n64/dc games.
Tutorial is shit. Those training levels do not provide a proper incentive to understand the concepts they teach. You really have to learn through trial by fire in the levels.
Got almost every achievement in level 1 though which is funny. The ant farm level is also an easy way to get the 999 combo count cheevo. Just sit and kill the respawns till it pops using just the bounce gun. All I have left is beating all levels and the million missile counter one.
Not bad but, I hate the focus on invincibility here. It's a lame meta-strategy that takes away from the thrill of blowing shit up. Original games were just visceral shooting galleries with some quirky obstacles and plotting. This is clearly not the same bangaio.
Tutorial is shit. Those training levels do not provide a proper incentive to understand the concepts they teach. You really have to learn through trial by fire in the levels.
Got almost every achievement in level 1 though which is funny. The ant farm level is also an easy way to get the 999 combo count cheevo. Just sit and kill the respawns till it pops using just the bounce gun. All I have left is beating all levels and the million missile counter one.
Not bad but, I hate the focus on invincibility here. It's a lame meta-strategy that takes away from the thrill of blowing shit up. Original games were just visceral shooting galleries with some quirky obstacles and plotting. This is clearly not the same bangaio.
The Antitype
Banned
"It's not a SHMUP!"
I don't believe you.
It looks really cool and interesting, but I'm going to wait on reviews (fan and critic alike) to make sure it's not just a bullet-hell nightmare that I'll never enjoy.
I don't believe you.
It looks really cool and interesting, but I'm going to wait on reviews (fan and critic alike) to make sure it's not just a bullet-hell nightmare that I'll never enjoy.
you control a mech, there's gravity, dashing makes you invincible, you don't avoid bullets but fly towards them (they're homing bullets also), you can freeze bullets close to you, and the stages are quick but strategic. you also die a lot, but its not frustrating - this bangai-o especially i think they want you to figure it out on your own, its part of the experience.The Antitype said:
grindamasta said:
yea is there a way to record and playback replays?
If not I WISHHHH!
As for being a bullet hell nightmare, this is the only game I think that is truly an opposite of that feeling. Bangai-o makes you WANT a giant screen of bullets coming at you.
and it is a shmup btw