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Banshee - Season 2 - Fridays on Cinemax (S3 trailer up, see post #937)

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RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus

it was clear from the first season that Banshee was far better than it needed to be.

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There’s no need for it to feign importance or grasp at profundity.

I feel like this is a dig at True Detective.

But yeah, excellent article. Greenwald is great.
 
Banshee credits are so interesting, let's see what has been happening in them so far with the pictures behind the actor's name.

Vault numbers: 62 07 02 30

Hood:
1: A shadow of a sheriff's badge and a man in a rabbit mask
2: A shadow of a man with a fence shadow vanishing
3: The tattoed back of Clayton (the huge Indian) and a razor
4: The rabbit masked man
5: A circlet with a picture of the house in the country and a pic of Racine
6: A dog and a hand drawing a unicorn


Carrie:
1: A dead rabbit
2: A shadow of a woman with a fence shadow appearing
3: No idea what that is
4: A white picket fence with flowers, then shots of barbed wire fences
5: Same as Hood. Loved the little red glow of Racine's cigarette in the picture
6: Same as Hood

Proctor:
1: A flower
2: A sheriff and deputy badge with a cleaver in the middle (Brock being told to spy on Hood ?)
3: A baseball bat
4: A set of instruments, the ones he used on the Amish killer guy.
5: A woman in a white skirt and bare feet sitting in a chair
6: A meatgrinder

Sugar:
1: Two kids with shovels
2: Two kids starting to dig
3: Kids digging
4: Kids covering up a hole in the ground, you can just see some hairs of whatever was buried
5: What looks like one of the kids trying to put the other into the hole in the ground. Quite a creepy image.
6: The kids with the mannequin they dug up

Job:
1: Job staking out the armored car
2: A laptop and an old typewriter
3: The same kids as with Sugar digging
4: Same as Sugar
5: A sheet of fingerprints vanishing. Job working on the new identity of Jason.
6: A knife and a rabbit (?) in the grass

Gordon:
1: Looking out a window to a woman
2: Silhoutte of a naked woman in a window
3: Bars appearing in front of the window
4: A naked woman
5: The woman from the first pic running away
6: An empty photo frame

Brock:
1: A sherrif badge vanishing
2: A car on a road
3: The same tattooed man as Hood
4: A sheriff badge and a flower
5: Brock at the gun range, a target has one shot in the head but it may not be Brock's target.
6: A photo of the Hopewell family in happier times

Emett:
1: A bible with a drop of blood on it
2: The bible with more blood
3: More blood !
4: The blood has dried and the cross on the bible can be seen again
5: Ugh, so much blood
6: You can't see it's a bible anymore, just blood and a cross

Siobhan
1: A hand full of flowers
2: A gun range target shot in the head
3: A squirrel dead on the road
4: Clayton's tattooed back
5: A different picture of Clayton's back
6: A picture of a bike and of the bikers rings from season one. Written on it is 105, for season 1 episode 5 when the biker gang appeared ?

Deva:
1: A family photo being burned with other photos behind it
2: The photo burning up more
3: First photo gone, you now see a picture of a much younger Deva (?)
4: That picture also burning
5: Picture almost gone, a new picture of Carrie and Deva becoming visible
6: New photo visible, Gordon, Carrie and Deva


Rebecca:
1: Two pies, one with a butcher's cleaver
2: The second pie now has an Indian dagger
3: The pie with the dagger has a piece cut out and a bible verse, Genesis 4 10
The LORD said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground.
4: The other pie, now with Proctor's pincers has a piece cut out and another bible verse, 1 Thessalonians 4 16
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
5: A cleaver scooping up a piece of pie with a new verse, Romans 12 19
Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.
6: A pie with both the knife and cleaver on it with bible verse Jeremiah 17 9: The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?


Alex Longshadow:
1: A poker game, butcher's cleaver (Proctor) versus dagger (Alex), Queen of hearts open, six and nine of diamonds (together 15, the years Hood was in jail for a diamond heist)
2: Cards are opened, Alex wins with two pair, queens and nines
3: Another, slightly different game, this time Proctor wins with twos and nines
4: Another game won by Proctor, both have two kings but he has the high card, the queen of clubs against Alex's jack of spades
5: Cards being shuffled
6: A game ending in a draw, both had ace/king with Alex having spades and Proctor clubs.

Rabbit:
1: An egg
2: Some sort of pen with ink being lit by a candle
3: Drawing lines on the egg with the pen.
4: A woman drawing more on the egg
5: What looks like a deer being drawn on the egg
6: More elaborate drawing on the egg

For some characters the pictures are a preview of what will happen that episode while with others it gives some indication of what they are doing even when they are not in the episode. The poker game looks like it's representing the Alex/Proctor power struggle with Proctor significantly ahead so a draw is really a win for him. Not sure what to make of Brock, Emmett or Rabbit's pictures.
Thanks for compiling this.

I love watching the credits to see these things.
 

AkuMifune

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But yeah, excellent article. Greenwald is great.

Surprised he finds Season 2 that much better because it's "in control of its intensity", while I preferred the breakneck pace of Season 1 that felt like it was just barely squeezing in any semblance of a plot.

Overall this season has felt more like meandering, though that last episode was fantastic.
 

Alpende

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Finally watched the episode yesterday and I liked it a lot better than the previous one. We finally got to see some background on Burton, that dude is creepy as shit.

Also, Proctor is weird. Getting blown and just looking at his niece, that shit's weird. As far as story line goes, nothing that interesting has happened. I wonder what happens next though, the diamond stuff is pretty weak.
 
New episode tonight:
Ways to Bury a Man

An enraged Lucas looks for some trees to shake in an effort to bring down Proctor. After rattling the regulars and strippers at the Savoy, Lucas and his deputies rough up Sharp, a junkyard skinhead, for info on a Proctor-run ecstasy operation. A family crisis brings Carrie, Deva and Gordon together; Alex faces a vote of no-confidence at the tribal council; Job shows off his explosive side.
 

Ekdrm2d1

Member
An OK episode tonight. Needs more fighting! haha

I didn't understand the corruption with the Indian tribe. Why did Proctor help Alex? Aren't they enemies per se?
 
An OK episode tonight. Needs more fighting! haha

I didn't understand the corruption with the Indian tribe. Why did Proctor help Alex? Aren't they enemies per se?

Proctor has his hands in the Indian Casino - If Alex was ousted, the reformed council and chief would completely sever any connection with Proctor.

In a previous episode Proctor also commented that he knew he would go down in the future one way or another, and that on his death any current one of enterprises would collapse because they're basically all fronts for his criminal empire.

The casino would be one of the only legacies that could continue I think.
 

Ekdrm2d1

Member
Proctor has his hands in the Indian Casino - If Alex was ousted, the reformed council and chief would completely sever any connection with Proctor.

In a previous episode Proctor also commented that he knew he would go down in the future one way or another, and that on his death any current one of enterprises would collapse because they're basically all fronts for his criminal empire.

The casino would be one of the only legacies that could continue I think.


Correct. Thanks!
 
Was that Ginger from True Detective as the skinhead?

Because that'd be the third Banshee actor that was also in True Detective. Ok episode. Lots of development, lacking in beatdowns.
 
Now I know what the meat grinder in last week's credits with Proctor were for. Thanks for that horrible imagery show !

Looking at the credits I noticed a picture had changed in the non actors snapshots. Every director has had their own picture but now the picture you see before the production designer was changed from what it was the first 5 episodes. It was this:

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And from episode 6 on it's been this:

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On the Banshee Vault website with little info bits on the intros there is nothing on what this means or who she is. She does not look like someone we've seen in the show.
 
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Deleted member 325805

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Another great episode, I fucking love this show.
 
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Deleted member 325805

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This show needs more Burton, he's such an interesting character. Although maybe if we saw more of him he'd lose some of his mystery.
 

UrbanRats

Member
Nice ep, it's like they suddenly remembered they had a show to wrap up in a couple of episodes.
But i'm happy the ball is finally rolling again.
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
Good episode this week. The Job x Sugar scenes were all golden and that explosion totally caught me off guard.

Also,

"That's Platinumm with two "m's", like "Mmm, she look good!".

lol
 

Saty

Member
Just seemed pointless for Lucas to go after Proctor only after the Jason incident. There are enough reasons to want to bring him down and it shouldn't rely on whatever he did to Jason.

My fascination with the inner-workings of the town continues to grow. You got the mayor frequenting a strip joint on a nightly basis for more than a month (Carrie was in and out of jail) but it doesn't seem anybody gives a shit. You don't need to be a hard-hitting journalist to note what Gordon has been publicly doing and at least raise concerns or demand answers.
 

Wiktor

Member
Just seemed pointless for Lucas to go after Proctor only after the Jason incident. There are enough reasons to want to bring him down and it shouldn't rely on whatever he did to Jason.

Proctor before seemed to be dependable and honorable. Hood's no saint, he doesn';t care if somebody does illegal activities or is a scumbad. But by killing Jason Proctor put himself on the level of vile wild animal, not any different than Rabbit. And Hood cared the the boy, despite knowing him shortly. Proctor just showed that he needed to be taken down. Hood doesn't need another Rabbit when he already has to watch out for the real one.
 
Finally caught up and wow at episode 5. What the hell was that. The cornfield scene was fantastic, but what the hell at the rest.

Just...wha...

Rest of the episodes were fantastic though, but I'm not sure I like the new approach to editing. And goddamn at Jason going out like that...one at least hope he was able to finish before being choked to death.

Double Goddamn at Proc and Rebecca just sitting there as his body is grinding into mince. Fuck....
 
My fascination with the inner-workings of the town continues to grow. You got the mayor frequenting a strip joint on a nightly basis for more than a month (Carrie was in and out of jail) but it doesn't seem anybody gives a shit. You don't need to be a hard-hitting journalist to note what Gordon has been publicly doing and at least raise concerns or demand answers.

The local news is too busy with the dozens of murders, brawls, explosions, biker gang raids, nazis and armed robberies to cover this.
 

Saty

Member
Which makes the Mayor even more a destination to get answers about what the heck is going on and what he's doing about it -- only to see he's doing jack shit. Last season did a better job trying to show and deal with the bigger issues of the town itself. I don't know why the killed that young mayor character, it seems a bigger waste now than what it did before.
 
District attorney, yes. But Kelly called him "the mayor" after she breaks up the fight between Hood and him. I do not recall him ever becoming the mayor.

Wasn't there a scene in the season opener where they talk about him being a stand in mayor until a new one is elected?

I can vaguely remember one, but I could be thinking about a different show...
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
First episode it was in dialogue that was put in as interim mayor until they could hold new elections.
 
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