Hyperactivity
Banned
Have about 30 more minutes on comp, then will be gone for ~ 5 hours. Will hopefully be back for last 4 hours
My observations to the end of page 14; more coming later:
Hyperactivity: I'm not a fan of post #206. It's largely redundant information that I think any reasonable new player can figure out through common sense; there's little point in repeating it and certainly not in so much detail other than to establish town credentials. Real town just post don't claim D1 plz thx and leave it at that. Don't really like #332 either; appealing to past games is never an actual defense because people can (and do) play inconsistently between games; nor do I like #333. Town doesn't plan, scum plans. If town start planning, you can't tell the difference between town and scum.
MattyG: I agree with batsnacks in #222 that MattyG's #221 is slightly off.
Batsnacks: Good intuitions in #222
AbsolutBro: Not a fan of #223 for the same reason I wasn't a fan of Hyperactivity's #206. Happens again in #436.
kingkitty: Good intuitions in #224. However, terrible intuitions in #483, so obviously scum.
*Splinter: I don't like #240. Hyperactivity's questions aren't really useful. I mean, 1. is useful insofar as it saves me time having to check your game history, but 2., 3., and 4. aren't; most people can't accurately describe their playstyle as town because you don't really consciously plan as town, you just play; you don't self-scrutinize to the degree you do as scum and so don't really observe how you play as much. Going after people for giving blunt answers to meh questions doesn't help anyone. I do agree with his #622 observation, though, so that gets him some credit back.
DuskSoldier: #253 seems really manufactured. There's not really enough material in this day to get this aggressive. Pointing out scumpairs D1 is obviously a fool's game, but seeing as now Fools are GAFia standard (shame on ye all), I wouldn't be entirely surprised if this was just the early traces of a false argument.
Timeaisis: #459 had all the same reads I did by this point, so he's either coming at this from a town perspective or a really good scum.
At this point, I realized WhereAreMahDragonz had managed to make, like, a tonne of posts without any of them really catching my attention. That's a relatively impressive skill and has reminded me to observe more carefully what WAMD does throughout the rest of the game.
Retroid: Is probably not scum through #515; GAFia is established enough that arguing for D1 NL is Sisyphean tasks that only causes you to lose respect and persuasive capital; scum know that or will get told that by other scum.
Timetokill: is a bit all over the place, but I think in a good way, at least tentatively. I don't think many of his reads are right, necessarily, but I can see where they come from and they come from town places.
My complaint isn't that his answers to the questions lacked effort, since the questions themselves are merely a starting point.Hmm
I know Barry is capable of grabbing a game by the balls on day 1, and this post is a poor start. Jokes is fine, but he kind of pretends to be answering Hyper's questions while not saying anything.
Ouro's post right after looked similar, but at least there it was obvious he was taking the piss. Barry was a little more ambiguous.
If it was intended as a joke too then fine I guess, I'll wait for more posts. But if it was a "helpful, getting the ball rolling" kind of post then it's absolutely minimal effort.
I'd prefer if everyone put their votes down before the last hour chaos so on day two we have a some sort of a base line to look at instead of just a pile of hasty semirandom votes. We are missing 6 I think.
Anyway, Ourobouloosus
He is acting weird to me, I think he is too selfaware about his previous victory and its trying to seem distant yet committed to the game. But here was my tell.
No.
Ouro, no, you don't play like this.
You are a mole, a tunneler, a fuck you my word is THELAW. You are acting too soft because you are a squishy pumpking of lies.
Why bother claiming if you're going to admit that it's a lie?
GAFia is established enough that arguing for D1 NL is Sisyphean tasks that only causes you to lose respect and persuasive capital; scum know that or will get told that by other scum.
Salva, if you are claiming a PR, can you elaborate? Do you know what it means by "stinking someone up"? Are you saying this is a roleblock move, or just informing that player that they were targeted?
I'm going to be honest, I don't think what you're claiming makes a whole lot of sense, but I'd like to hear more from you, just to clarify.
It just makes people aware that they were visited, they'll have no clue what kind of role just affected them in case it doesn't alert them by itself.
That is only if I am saying the truth tho, but I am not.
Why bother claiming if you're going to admit that it's a lie?
What lie are you referring to?
this convo from last page is interesting
my gut says if there's on the same scum side, this seems kinda odd and pointless, especially to end it so anticlimactically. of course, maybe that's what they want me to think. but my gut reaction is if they're scumbros, why not at least end this conversation properly? dragonz basically left salvapot hanging (even though we the audience already know the answer to salva's question, or do we)
i have some other thoughts i'll write up soon
Quick thing I'm noticing.
You mention that you're a fan or not a fan of certain posts, but how does this relate to your scum-reads on these people.
Are you basically taking a stance of not really going after contributing players day 1, at least when it comes to lynching them? From what I can tell, you only have say 2 reads up to this point, although up till page 14 does give you a good excuse
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt so long as this is still a WIP, but this comes off as fairly "safe".
wifom
this convo from last page is interesting
my gut says if there's on the same scum side, this seems kinda odd and pointless, especially to end it so anticlimactically. of course, maybe that's what they want me to think. but my gut reaction is if they're scumbros, why not at least end this conversation properly? dragonz basically left salvapot hanging (even though we the audience already know the answer to salva's question, or do we)
i have some other thoughts i'll write up soon
What lie are you referring to?
This was the interaction I was talking about.
In my opinion on what posts are throwaway and which ones aren't, this was timetokill's 5th major post (of 10), and probably his 2nd biggest contribution (his 7th with the simpson pic being the biggest one), and WAMD's 18th (of 21).
I would agree with WAMD here, his original post was super bandwagony.
Main thing I had noticed here when going through WAMD's posts was that
A. She didn't vote for him
B. She seemed really defensive over this vote.
When I made the post about the connection of them both possibly being scum, I was thinking timetokill had basically made that his first post, and thought of it as much scummier for some reason, therefore seeing WAMD not voting for him as possibly a case of them bussing one another.
Now, after going trough time's posts, I'm not too sure anymore. The not voting for him thing still sticks out, as I would say that is something worth voting for, but she was also after me at that point.
Main thing that I noticed is she didn't stop at pointing out the vote was bandwagonny, but pointed out his activity level, which seems counter-intuitive, as
A. He had done more than most
B. Idk, it seemed more of an attack on him, that doesn't necessarily help us in determining whether he was scum or town. More of an excuse to dismiss
On to timetokill's response. His "you were on my mind" thing screams bullshit, but the main thing that I noticed there was that he kept to his vote, and called out Catvoca for switching it. That's the only thing that makes me think he might have been serious about his vote.
UNVOTE
Conclusion: I don't really know. I'm going to ask timetokill some question, to get a better idea of my position on him. WAMD, is back to scummy vibes, not much more yet, owing to her mostly safe votes.
So, questions I was going to ask timetokill mainly have to do with him not really bringing up certain topics since he initially was posting about them.
1. How do you feel about me?
2. How do you feel about stackpole?
3. Read on Catvoca?
4. Current read on WAMD?
5. I know you mentioned a null read on Retroid, but as to the other no lynchers, how do you feel? Was your conversation with Batsnacks related to your scum/town reads on them?
Toma isn't happening, is it?
Can we have a vote count?
12 votes for a majority :O
Bats you made a whole hullabaloo about dusk and now you aren't voting for anyone.
I feel like that was more of a pressure vote than anything, but i could be wrong.Bats you made a whole hullabaloo about dusk and now you aren't voting for anyone.
We need like 6-8 people to be voting the same person right now.
06 [m] euphemism
10 [f] StackpoleH
12 [m] TheExodu5
13 [m] MattyG
17 [m] AbsolutBro
These people are un-vouched for.
We need like 6-8 people to be voting the same person right now.
06 [m] euphemism
10 [f] StackpoleH
12 [m] TheExodu5
13 [m] MattyG
17 [m] AbsolutBro
These people are un-vouched for.
This is way too scattershot... I want a thunderdome, and I'd like batsnacks or Catvoca or myself to pick the targets.
This is way too scattershot... I want a thunderdome, and I'd like batsnacks or Catvoca or myself to pick the targets.