Bar MAFIA |OT| There's Gonna Be Shots
- Thread starter Kawl_USC
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... these mods are the worst. I demand links to day starts and ends in the op, come on you're better than this cabot (I expected as much from Kawl)
How can I edit the OP when Kawl is the author?
What do you expect of me.
Oh throwing me under the bus? I see how it is.
what the fuck is wrong with you man ! ?
he used his power and cleared duskbro just like cabot did with me in election !
Kawl I don't expect you to recap, I just want an easily reachable link to day starts/ends, so I don't waste my time clicking through 15 pages and looking for them myself!
@Kyan: short version
Crab was scum, claimed an investigative power Day 2 and saved another scum without any evidence, while pushing all the suspicion onto me (a neutral, scum already found out about me at the time) ~ yet all 3 of us survived for many days to come. Of course HP was broken. Still fun times.
@Kyan: short version
Crab was scum, claimed an investigative power Day 2 and saved another scum without any evidence, while pushing all the suspicion onto me (a neutral, scum already found out about me at the time) ~ yet all 3 of us survived for many days to come. Of course HP was broken. Still fun times.
Well, hello nin. I don't think we've played together before? Have you created this game? Can you say with a 100% certainty that both players are town? Are you willing to take that risk? I'd kindly remind you of a game where somebody was recruited to scum after being investigated, but you of all people should remember that "game".
If you are willing to give Dusk the benefit of doubt and believe that his birthday shot clears him - what the hell, if he dies tonight it could be a fireshoot with poison! - does it really clear Crab? Why would he reveal to have more powers? Because he'll move at night and is afraid of being watched? Why give this information to scum?
You are not making any sense. And don't say it's irrelevant, because this is the very essence of your claim and your story doesn't add up. You're scum.
I don't like nin's post today at all. He brags about inactivity and all he offers is mostly fluff. Even though he posts more than most, he isn't very helpful in getting this thread moving. He has gained my suspicion for now.
I've only just read this Day, I still lack the knowledge of Day1. Who claimed what up to this point?
@Dragonz
Hello again, I just subbed in so would you kindly answer some question for me even if you already responded to them earlier?
What's your role name? Your alignment? From whom do you get your "missions"? Is there more than one each night you can choose from? Why do you go on missions anyway? What was your task last night? At first it sounded like you planted a permanent bug in the bathroom from the beginning, but later you claimed it was because of your decision last night?
You listened to how many players? Did you get actual text sections? Your life is at stake here, you have to try hard to distinguish fluff from useful information. If you claim that you heard nothing but a "deep voice" and "bruh" a lot, that's hardly helping us.
@Retroid are you here? Who do you suspect atm? You are on low activity and inclined to let Dragonz live for now? Are you in cahoots with her? Is this your scum plan to save her?
If Retroid ever turns out to be scum, we have to kill nin. It's the little and subtle slips, but this here is pretty obvious:
While nin does include Retroid in his list, he clearly wants to divert attention away from him, before it can get any traction whatsoever.
I'm wary of Ourobolus because I only know him as the mad mod and don't know what to think of him. Looks like a typical smart-ass who could very well jerk us around.
And my favourite shitposter is doing his shtick as usual. Last time I wasn't convinced to follow through on it, but if you go on to play like you do I want you lynched Kyan.
I've only just read this Day, I still lack the knowledge of Day1. Who claimed what up to this point?
@Dragonz
Hello again, I just subbed in so would you kindly answer some question for me even if you already responded to them earlier?
What's your role name? Your alignment? From whom do you get your "missions"? Is there more than one each night you can choose from? Why do you go on missions anyway? What was your task last night? At first it sounded like you planted a permanent bug in the bathroom from the beginning, but later you claimed it was because of your decision last night?
You listened to how many players? Did you get actual text sections? Your life is at stake here, you have to try hard to distinguish fluff from useful information. If you claim that you heard nothing but a "deep voice" and "bruh" a lot, that's hardly helping us.
@Retroid are you here? Who do you suspect atm? You are on low activity and inclined to let Dragonz live for now? Are you in cahoots with her? Is this your scum plan to save her?
If Retroid ever turns out to be scum, we have to kill nin. It's the little and subtle slips, but this here is pretty obvious:
While nin does include Retroid in his list, he clearly wants to divert attention away from him, before it can get any traction whatsoever.
I'm wary of Ourobolus because I only know him as the mad mod and don't know what to think of him. Looks like a typical smart-ass who could very well jerk us around.
And my favourite shitposter is doing his shtick as usual. Last time I wasn't convinced to follow through on it, but if you go on to play like you do I want you lynched Kyan.
Gorlak, you missunderstood me, my intention was to remind Ouro that there are several other players out there aswell. At that point i was annyoed that only half of the players had checked in. Divert attention away from him ? naaaw man look at this.
Vote: Retroid
he is on my hunt list aswell dont worry.
I did not make it clear from my previous posts, sorry. For today i am willing to believe him but the longer the game goes the more suspicious i will get. Trust me Gorlak, i know what "game" you meant
Harry Potter of course
Hey, I am at least trying and fluff looks different Gorlak!
from one single post you come to the conclusion that IF retroid turns out to be scum i will be aswell ? You clearly are drunk Gorlak, that sure is some BS but, and here it comes.
You can try and lynch me. Since i am Town and my flip will reveal it, i will at least take me with you.
Looks like I hit a soft spot nin? Please don't cry
Yes, this is the obvious truth anyone who thinks differently is bad at this game. You fucked up, just admit it.
How so, little man? What secret power of yours will take me down with you?
yet.
Yes, this is the obvious truth anyone who thinks differently is bad at this game. You fucked up, just admit it.
How so, little man? What secret power of yours will take me down with you?
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Hey Gorlak! Good to play with you again, man. I'll answer your questions when I get home because I would prefer to type it out on my keyboard.
I don't know what to think of Retroid but I am still highly suspicious of ttk. His bandwagon post of me yesterday contributed to that and I never feel like his posts have any other purpose than to create a sense of productivity.
I've got a pretty null read of Retroid if you wanted specifics. He hasn't posted much that really stands out to me either way. I don't like how he's not very active, but his posts are at least consistent, I feel, so I dunno. It could swing either way for me.
I don't know what to think of Retroid but I am still highly suspicious of ttk. His bandwagon post of me yesterday contributed to that and I never feel like his posts have any other purpose than to create a sense of productivity.
I've got a pretty null read of Retroid if you wanted specifics. He hasn't posted much that really stands out to me either way. I don't like how he's not very active, but his posts are at least consistent, I feel, so I dunno. It could swing either way for me.
Than let's follow up on this, please. You provided a list with low activity players, fine. What shall we do with it? Lynch them all and lose the game? There is likely to be two scum in this list, just by probability (however there could be the whole team or no one) You think Retroid is it? Bussing so early? Seems like the right play to do in your position. Any opinion on the other players? Why Retroid over MattyG? Or anyone else on this list?
[m] tomakasatnav
[m] euphemism
[m] Gorlak
[m] Retroid
[m] zeemumu
[m] TheExodu5
[m] MattyG
[m] Barrylocke
The thing is Gorlak, i was sincere with on the above post. Since Ouro is known for being a tunneller, i wanted to show him other candidates aswell. I had no intention to distract him BUT and here it comes. It might look like it. So yes, i admit it Gorlak. from your Point of View i made a mistake
Of course not ! I just wanted to make others aware or the listed players that they have to step their game up!
Well that vote was more a reaction to your previous posts. Claiming that i am trying to safe him. Matty G is still suspicous in my eyes aswell. Since i played a game with him already i know that he can be a lot more active. I already made him aware of that with my "parrot" post.
My thoughts on the players you listed
[m] tomakasatnav Null read, the only thing he said in my mind was that he is on a train
[m] euphemism I dont even know who that is
[m] Gorlak Welcome to the game Knabe
[m] Retroid Null read aswell , but want to hear him speak up a bit
[m] zeemumu Did not post a lot in the beginning of the game and i had a vote on him in order to force him to make some more posts. Since then he posted a bit but still not a lot.
[m] TheExodu5 I dont know what to make out of his claim, since he claimed but did not want to reveal any details. As i said earlier either go full on with your claim or shut up
[m] MattyG 50/50 I know mattyG can be a good town player but up to this point he has dissapointed me.
[m] Barrylocke a lot of nothing came from him today
The power of Love !
for real now, i just meant that if you lynch me you will get lynched for lynching me.
SHORTCUT POST
Current Phase: Day 2
Player List (20 Remain):
01 [m] timetokill - New
02 [m] Catvoca - New
03 [m] tomakasatnav
04 [f] Wherearemahdragonz
05 [m] Kyanrute
06 [m] euphemism
07[m]A Human Becoming [f] Tar-Miriel - New[m] Gorlak
08 [m] Crab
09 [m] Retroid
10[f] StackpoleH[m] Zeemumu
11 [m] Dusk Soldier
12 [m] TheExodu5
13 [m] MattyG
14 [m] Ourobolus
15 [m] batsnacks
16 [m] SalvaPot
17 [m] AbsolutBroDEAD
18 [m] Barrylocke
19 [m] nin1000
20 [m] *SplinterDEAD
21 [m] Timeaisis
22 [m] Hyperactivity
23 [m] kingkittyDEAD
Vote tool can be found here:
http://rfnx.ddns.net/mafia/1228204.html
Day Start/End:
Day 1 Start
Day 1 End
Day 2 Start
CURRENT PHASE ENDS:
Due to Gorlak's
Enjoy it.
Did nin already crack? Did you just admit to be scum? Why would you let down your team so easily? What's up with you?
vote: nin1000
Seriously nin, you sealed your fate with those responses. You play reactively by voting Retroid just to prove a point, after being called out on something? You admit to making mistakes? You feign the defeated "town" member out of desperation this early?
Now you provide a short read list from which I still cannot distinguish who you would like to vote? Euphemism? Let's do another meaningless lynch through which we gain no information on anybody after the flip, that sounds like the perfect plan.
Who do you want to lynch right now and why?
vote: nin1000
Seriously nin, you sealed your fate with those responses. You play reactively by voting Retroid just to prove a point, after being called out on something? You admit to making mistakes? You feign the defeated "town" member out of desperation this early?
Now you provide a short read list from which I still cannot distinguish who you would like to vote? Euphemism? Let's do another meaningless lynch through which we gain no information on anybody after the flip, that sounds like the perfect plan.
Who do you want to lynch right now and why?
I will not forget you crab, you still got some explaining to do!
Ah, thank you buddy! You're the best worst tanner ever <3
Look I even put on a fitting avatar for you!
Already crack ? mate you have not even seen my final Form.
Do what you will. Vote me out or at least try lol.
Who i would like to see voted out ?
since half of the players are missing i have not made up my mind about it.
ARE YOU SHITTING ME?!
This day reached half-time and nobody even gives a shit? You are here and still don't care who gets lynched. This is a clear sign that you are scum. No matter how much you want to look productive when it comes to actually doing something you prefer to be useless and let the silence reign. This all plays into scums hands and you refusing to state your opinion at this point is a huge red flag.
I lean town on Theexodu5. I will not vote him today.
batsnacks and time both pressure him into revealing more info, saying they don't believe him, referring to a possible safe fake claim. I don't think this is a good idea. It's bringing you two in the spotlight more than anything. Obviously scum was satisfied with how the night played out and how nothing is happening today.
Revealing even more info to scum is a mistake. I think one of you two is scum aiming for somebody who already had suspicion on him. That's also why he survived the night.
batsnacks and time both pressure him into revealing more info, saying they don't believe him, referring to a possible safe fake claim. I don't think this is a good idea. It's bringing you two in the spotlight more than anything. Obviously scum was satisfied with how the night played out and how nothing is happening today.
Revealing even more info to scum is a mistake. I think one of you two is scum aiming for somebody who already had suspicion on him. That's also why he survived the night.
This should be the final votes day 1, please say sth. if I made a mistake. With the big bandwagon on absolutbro we have the best chances to find scum in there.
Six are still alive, who would you all vote if you had to choose one of those now? I'd go with batsnacks followed by kyanrute.
All of the players who are currently not in action would not hurt me in the slightest.
Since they are not contributing in the slightest.
Ok if you want to read my posts that way Gorlak, feel free to do so, But it concerns me that you came into the game barking up the wrong tree for hours. Not that i wont take any amusement from it, i am enjoying it. But be sure to bark on other players aswell.
I hope you can do that in your rage my friend.
My list on who i would vote out on that list
batsnacks
kyanrute
hyperactivity
either of them would be fine in my book.
Here you go
VOTE: kyanrute
I won't change my vote from now on, since changing votes takes away the impact from it.
We faked a pretty ridiculous role in HP and town bought it good.
One of the bar patrons, on his way back from getting a fresh round, hits the deck with the most satisfying of smashes. Inexplicably, his head explodes and as everyone gets mildly grossed out by the brain matter floating in their pints, a bloody napkin is found containing a message....
The napkin is signed by an 'Officer KK'
The napkin is signed by an 'Officer KK'
Welcome to the game Gorlak, good to have someone coming in and posting a lot, even if it comes across as maybe a bit overly aggressive IMO. I guess with so many people barely posting that might be what we need? Anyway, it's good to have you!
So my thoughts on lynching someone is that we should lynch one of the more active posters this time. Day 1 we lynched an inactive and it was basically a failure. We hit town, got very little information and forced Exodu5 into a role-claim. I don't want to be in day 3 with barely any info again. I'm sure there's scum hiding in the inactives but I think we can deal with them later and focus on trying to hit scum with players who've posted a bit more, that way if we hit town we at least have something more to work with.
Looking at the active posters, WhereAreMahDragonz is my biggest scum read, I don't quite believe her role claim yet and I've posted my thoughts on her bandwagoning previously. I still do think we should probably leave her alive for another night and see if she gets any information that could prove her role day 3.
So, putting aside Dragonz I would probably lynch Timetokill. I've gotten a scummy vibe off of him for a while. He bandwagoned on my Dragonz vote almost immediately, and this was after posting very little else in the thread. We've seen him (and batsnacks for that matter) try and pressure Exodu5 into revealing more about his role in a way that could benefit scum. He's also just generally posted a decent amount but not had that much content in his posts, and this could be could be scum trying to appear active. There's a couple of other smaller things too. Like Hyper asked him a bunch of questions in post 1000 but TTK just never answered them. He actually didn't post at all on the final day, which I find suspicious. His reply to me 2 pages ago struck me as a little funny too, like he was trying to deflect from me questioning whether the Forger role could be a scum role. So overall I just get the feeling that he could be scummy. A small plus to lynching ttk is that if he flips scum it means Dragonz is probably town as they have been at eachother's throats most of the game.
So for now I'm going to put a tentative vote on TTK.
Vote: timetokill
That's just what I'm thinking right now, I'm interested in hearing other people's thoughts on who they think we should lynch. We've got only got like a little over a day left and there's been no movement from anyone to discuss lynch candidates until Gorlak showed up, so I'd like to see where everyones thoughts are regarding this day phases lynch.
So my thoughts on lynching someone is that we should lynch one of the more active posters this time. Day 1 we lynched an inactive and it was basically a failure. We hit town, got very little information and forced Exodu5 into a role-claim. I don't want to be in day 3 with barely any info again. I'm sure there's scum hiding in the inactives but I think we can deal with them later and focus on trying to hit scum with players who've posted a bit more, that way if we hit town we at least have something more to work with.
Looking at the active posters, WhereAreMahDragonz is my biggest scum read, I don't quite believe her role claim yet and I've posted my thoughts on her bandwagoning previously. I still do think we should probably leave her alive for another night and see if she gets any information that could prove her role day 3.
So, putting aside Dragonz I would probably lynch Timetokill. I've gotten a scummy vibe off of him for a while. He bandwagoned on my Dragonz vote almost immediately, and this was after posting very little else in the thread. We've seen him (and batsnacks for that matter) try and pressure Exodu5 into revealing more about his role in a way that could benefit scum. He's also just generally posted a decent amount but not had that much content in his posts, and this could be could be scum trying to appear active. There's a couple of other smaller things too. Like Hyper asked him a bunch of questions in post 1000 but TTK just never answered them. He actually didn't post at all on the final day, which I find suspicious. His reply to me 2 pages ago struck me as a little funny too, like he was trying to deflect from me questioning whether the Forger role could be a scum role. So overall I just get the feeling that he could be scummy. A small plus to lynching ttk is that if he flips scum it means Dragonz is probably town as they have been at eachother's throats most of the game.
So for now I'm going to put a tentative vote on TTK.
Vote: timetokill
That's just what I'm thinking right now, I'm interested in hearing other people's thoughts on who they think we should lynch. We've got only got like a little over a day left and there's been no movement from anyone to discuss lynch candidates until Gorlak showed up, so I'd like to see where everyones thoughts are regarding this day phases lynch.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Oh hey Gorlak's in now
So, uh, will be busy throughout the day, but will try to get some posts in
I guess what bothers me about WAMD's role the most is how exclusive it is. It's like an entire emchanic of a game, but just one that affects you.
To make a comparison, in Archer mafia, there was a mission mechanic that the first X number of players that posted a highlighted VOLTUNTEER were put in a waiting list so that come night time, they were in a secret chat. The people in the mission chat could only act o others in the mission chat, same with those outside of it.
One of the major complaints at the end of the game was that it only rewarded people who waited at the beginning of the game to get it, and that after the initial night 1 mission chat group, it was very hard to get in (they had a cop verifying each one night by night). Scum had to sack one of its member (hi Gorlak) to get rid of that cop.
WAMD's role, what with the night time choices, the info from another player, etc, seems like a whole mechanic of the game, that only say 2 players are in on. Imagine if dangaropa's map only affected two players, or GAFIA 2's map.
Say WAMD died without ever revealing. The rest of us would be going: "eh, what?". It's hard for me to imagine that past the day, during the night phase WAMD has this whole side business going on. If there was a way for the rest of us to get in on it, then it might be more believable, but otherwise it's hard to believe
The one thing I can say though, is that it also seems FAR too complicated for scum to use. I'm not sure scum would take such a convoluted role, when to them, simplicity would be the key. The only way I see it being possible is if scum indeed have a role called spy, and either it has a mechanic like that but somewhat more nefarious (like an actual purpose WAMD isn't telling us), or is more simple. But if they have a simple explanation, why make the mechanic so convoluted?
It basically comes down to this imo:
1) WAMD is town, and we have this weird bizarro mechanic
2) WAMD is scum, and we have this weird, somewhat hidden, bizarro mechanic
So, uh, will be busy throughout the day, but will try to get some posts in
I guess what bothers me about WAMD's role the most is how exclusive it is. It's like an entire emchanic of a game, but just one that affects you.
To make a comparison, in Archer mafia, there was a mission mechanic that the first X number of players that posted a highlighted VOLTUNTEER were put in a waiting list so that come night time, they were in a secret chat. The people in the mission chat could only act o others in the mission chat, same with those outside of it.
One of the major complaints at the end of the game was that it only rewarded people who waited at the beginning of the game to get it, and that after the initial night 1 mission chat group, it was very hard to get in (they had a cop verifying each one night by night). Scum had to sack one of its member (hi Gorlak) to get rid of that cop.
WAMD's role, what with the night time choices, the info from another player, etc, seems like a whole mechanic of the game, that only say 2 players are in on. Imagine if dangaropa's map only affected two players, or GAFIA 2's map.
Say WAMD died without ever revealing. The rest of us would be going: "eh, what?". It's hard for me to imagine that past the day, during the night phase WAMD has this whole side business going on. If there was a way for the rest of us to get in on it, then it might be more believable, but otherwise it's hard to believe
The one thing I can say though, is that it also seems FAR too complicated for scum to use. I'm not sure scum would take such a convoluted role, when to them, simplicity would be the key. The only way I see it being possible is if scum indeed have a role called spy, and either it has a mechanic like that but somewhat more nefarious (like an actual purpose WAMD isn't telling us), or is more simple. But if they have a simple explanation, why make the mechanic so convoluted?
It basically comes down to this imo:
1) WAMD is town, and we have this weird bizarro mechanic
2) WAMD is scum, and we have this weird, somewhat hidden, bizarro mechanic
Nin I wasn't HERE in the beginning of the game. How could I post?
Hyperactivity
Banned
Actually, Harry Potter would be a good example for the argument going either way
Crab's (fake) role involved searching other players for "dark magic", when we already had a cop. It was supposed to be a horcrux finder (let's not talk about horcruxes), and it was total bs.
Enker's role is arguably more relevant. As town, Enker had the option of checking locations, completely unknown to the rest of us, to check for mysterious objects. I remember thinking that it was a weird role, cause the rest of the cast had 0 way to interact with that role, it was like a minigame all on its own.
Also, if it wasn't Enker but someone else, then I'm so sorry
Hyperactivity
Banned
Hyperactivity
Banned
HOLY SHT we only have 1 1/4 days left?!
I thought this was like the 2nd day or something, we need this day to get going guys, it's way to late in the day to have like 3 pages filled only
I thought this was like the 2nd day or something, we need this day to get going guys, it's way to late in the day to have like 3 pages filled only
Hyperactivity
Banned
Also, we need to be questioning TheExodu5 too. The fact that you had been bread crumbing doesn't mean shit. For all we know you're scum that got fake roles and was smart enough to set up your breadcrumb early, rather than come up with a role much later
Hyperactivity
Banned
We seriously want to avoid a mistake like Final Fantasy day 2 where you guys gave a scum player who claimed a role too much space until a counterclaim forced the thunderdome situation (where you again, gave the player who claimed first priority)
i have really spotty wifi at this jamaican resort so apologies
wamd has a weird role, let her live another day to actually give us info. if not, lets have a lynchgasm
nin is acting like nin, nothing new there. i am pretty sure gorlak thinks he found something but it'll probably just lead us nowhere
timetokill still isn't being all that useful in my eyes, happy to vote him out
retroid is just kinda there
kyan can play a good scum, i worry he may be one again but it is just a gut read
stackpole has some weird posts early on, so my eyes are on you as well
this game is pretty sweet
timetokill
Banned
Oh shit, finally some activity today! This Gorlak guy is FEISTY! I love it 
tbh the reasons I asked Exo was because the amount of posting going on was so pathetically little that I just wanted to get something rolling, and because it seemed like a good place to start. I'm not trying to place suspicion on him or I would've outright voted for him like I did with WAMD in the previous day.
Have a meeting in a few so I have to run, but thank god this thread is moving again. If we don't post, scum will have an easy win ahead of them.
tbh the reasons I asked Exo was because the amount of posting going on was so pathetically little that I just wanted to get something rolling, and because it seemed like a good place to start. I'm not trying to place suspicion on him or I would've outright voted for him like I did with WAMD in the previous day.
Have a meeting in a few so I have to run, but thank god this thread is moving again. If we don't post, scum will have an easy win ahead of them.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Yo is everyone passing out from drinking too much and can't play anymore?
get off the ganja, she's no longer with us.
timetokill
Banned
Yo Catvoca I'll get back to you later today in particular.