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baseball off-season thread

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Joe

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evil solrac v3.0 said:
but where were you gonna put him?
they had FOUR 1st basemen this season im pretty sure they could have handled giambi and ortiz since nick johnson was as good as gone no matter what.
 

Desperado

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Miguel said:
Tim Pupurra should be plenty able tohandle the job. He's been involved with a lot of the current dealings in the past 2-3 years. He's had a bunch of offers but was promised the job after Hunsicker was gone. They just sped up the process because Gerry wasn't going to sign an extension, and the contract is up next year. Gerry was gone anyway... :(

eh...yeah I just read an old article about Purpura, he sounds very intelligent and capable...

http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/neyer_rob/1483345.html

lets go Purpura whoooo
 
Joe said:
brandon claussen and jeff weaver? :scratches head:

steinbrenner is expected to offer pedro martinez a contract even though the rest of the organization says he shouldn't.

they lost Yhency Brazoban in the Brown trade, who is looking like he's gonna have a bright future as Gagne's setup man. I bet the Yanks could have used him this postseason to help those busted arms in the bullpen that blew the series w/ the Red Sox and were overworked all year. And Weaver had a pretty comparable year statwise (probably even better) than Kevin Brown and for about 1/4 of the money.
 
Yikes double post...

Well here's new info..
New York Yankees
Declined the 2005 contract option on first baseman Travis Lee - expected..
Declined the 2006 contract option on pitcher Paul Quantrill - uh.. what about next year?
 
Joe, you can get more with a Jeff Weaver, Yhency Brazoben, Claussen and Harang than Brown and Boone.

I wouldn't mind still having Harang and Brazoben. Why did I think Harang was a lefty? I just checked, he's a righty.. Whoops.

Claussen was the lefty. He had a crap year. He's also only 25.

We wound up with Gabe White (who we sent back he was so bad) and Aaron 1 home run just to go on and lose to the Marlins Boone. Yeah sure he broke his leg and we got Assrod.. but really, did that help?

The Yankees had their best years when they let the talent get through. Bernie, Jeter, Pettite, Posada, Rivera. There's none of that. There's a lot wrong with the Yankees right now, despite the fact they won 100+ games.

Steinbrenner gives Martinez money and I give up. 29 years of fandom shot. I'll go buy Marlins season tickets or something.
 

theo

Contest Winner
steinbrenner should be more concerned with team needs instead of going out and signing pedro just to trump the red sox. that game is over.
 
Latest hot rumor: Georgie boy wants to trade Posada for either Tim Hudson or Randy Johnson, then sign Jason Varitek to catch to "stick it" to the Red Sox.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-2/1099380836222390.xml

First of all, unless Billy Beane started smoking crack recently, there is NO WAY IN HELL he is going to trade Tim Hudson, a still good and young starting pitcher, for 30 year old catcher with barely above average offensive skills who is due like $13 million a year. I even doubt Arizona would go for such a trade. Both teams are probably gonna want prospects and young, CHEAP players in return for the trade, not old, close to in decline, overpaid players.

George really needs to stop trying to "stick it" to the Red Sox, cause all he is doing is sticking up his own teams ass.
 

Joe

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if you trade posada and sign varitek how are you sticking it to the red sox? they would need a catcher wouldnt they?

posada is signed for another 3 seasons and hudson is a free agent after next season that's why beane would consider trading him.

and what are you smoking? since 2000 posada has been one of the best offensive catchers. he's been top 3 in rbi and top 3 (usually leading) in obp since 2000.
 
Posada needs to get his ass to a gym, because buddy boy looked weak beyond belief all season. He was not the same Posada of 2003.

All you need to see is how he almost missed nailing Ortiz (technically, he did, but what does that matter now?) on an SB. DAVID ORTIZ weighs 800 pounds and runs just about as fast as my 61 year old asthmatic mother.

And Beane will make the trade considring its Hudson's contract year coming up. Better to get something in return now instead of nothing later.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
Red Sox and Yankees both have catchers as prospects, overrated Dionner Navarro for the Yanks and meh-to-above meh Kelly Shoppach for the Sox.
 

Triumph

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speshylives said:
Posada needs to get his ass to a gym, because buddy boy looked weak beyond belief all season. He was not the same Posada of 2003.

All you need to see is how he almost missed nailing Ortiz (technically, he did, but what does that matter now?) on an SB. DAVID ORTIZ weighs 800 pounds and runs just about as fast as my 61 year old asthmatic mother.

And Beane will make the trade considring its Hudson's contract year coming up. Better to get something in return now instead of nothing later.
Billy Beane may very well trade Tim Hudson, but I can garauntee you that he'll get something far better than fucking Jorge Posada for him.
 

Joe

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:lol i love how posada (who came in 3rd for mvp voting last year) is all of a sudden a crappy player.
 

All Hail C-Webb

Hailing from the Chill-Web
speshylives said:
When you lead the league in DP's and do what amounts to nothing in the playoffs, you fall from grace.

The Double Play thing is a big problem. Whenever Posada stepped up to the plate with a guy on 1st it was obvious what was going to happen. I started praying for strikeouts in situations like those, but the dumbass kept swinging and hitting it right to the shortstop or 2nd baseman for an easy double play.
 

Joe

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he is a dp machine which is the only reason i wouldnt mind seeing him go. and he was the last of the yankees problems this post season. he did a great job catching considering the amount of innings he caught in the timeframe.
 
Joe said:
posada is signed for another 3 seasons and hudson is a free agent after next season that's why beane would consider trading him.

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uhh, thats all the more reason Beane WOULDN'T make the trade. He could probably find 4 or 5 players to contribute to his team for the $12 million Posada makes. You really think Billy Beane, one of the more financial savvy GMs in the leagues, who plays with a tight budget in Oakland, is gonna go for that shit?

i love how posada (who came in 3rd for mvp voting last year) is all of a sudden a crappy player.

he's not a crappy player, but he's a catcher in his 30s, which is usually when catchers start to decline, and he's overpaid. No way this guy should be making Pudge Rodiguez money.

And Beane will make the trade considring its Hudson's contract year coming up. Better to get something in return now instead of nothing later.

Uhh, no. He let Giambi walk. He let Damon walk. He let Dye walk. He's not gonna take on a player, even a good player like Posada, just for the sake of getting something in return. Especially if that something is gonna hurt his team in the long run contract-wise. Besides, if he looked hard enough, im sure there would be plenty of teams in need of starting pitching (St. Louis? Boston? San Diego? Los Angeles?) who will be able to offer young prospects rather than overpaid veterans. This is where the problem of George and Cashman leaving the minor league cupboard bare comes into play. The Yankees aren't gonna simply be able to reload like they might have in years past.
 
What made Posada decline so vastly over a year? Maybe something is wrong with him. He started the season pretty hot too. The double plays this year were awful. It was almost expected.
 
posada is just getting old and he catches a lot of innings. face it joe, the yanks just wont be able to "reload" like past years (not that that worked out anyway) answer my question joe, when will the yankees rebuild their farm system?
 

Scoobert

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Not going to happen but...

Don't be surprised if the Marlins make a play for Cubs right fielder Sammy Sosa, who owns a home in South Florida.

The Cubs would need to pay the bulk of the $43 million that Sosa would earn through 2006 if he were dealt; they could start by taking back Marlins right fielder Juan Encarnacion and his $4.45 million salary for '05. The Marlins, though, can offer prospects in exchange for cash. Adding a slugging outfielder would enable them to move right fielder Miguel Cabrera to third and third baseman Mike Lowell to first. ...

Red Sox free-agent righthander Pedro Martinez also might be intriguing for the Marlins and other NL teams in warm-weather cities. Facing less taxing NL lineups would help Martinez lower his pitch counts, and pitching in warm weather helps him loosen up quicker.

Of course, the Marlins could only afford Martinez if they had the assurance of a new ballpark. The Padres would need to trade left fielder Ryan Klesko or first baseman Phil Nevin. The Dodgers might make the most sense — if they're willing to meet Martinez's price...

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3125540
 

Joe

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they're already in the process of rebuilding their farm system. its just gonna take a few more years. in the past draft they took 6pitchers with their first 7 picks (they took 30 pitchers of their 52 picks) and they've completely overhauled the personnel.
 

Fifty

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That would make no fucking sense, and I love the guy. Here we are trying to cut costs in every area....still rebuilding....playoffs aren't in sight, and we're going to waste over 10 million a season on this guy? What was his old salary? 15 million? 20 million? Even if he takes a massive paycut it's not worth it. Even if we raise the budget a little bit, because we're now profitable, don't waste it on the same guy who has taken us nowhere in the last few years. Spend that money on 3-4 players, maybe for the bullpen.
 
Jeter with a gold glove! So much for the 2nd best shortstop on the Yankees.

Wonder if A-Rod's pissed?

And.. holy shit Wally Backman got old.
 

type9

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Any news on that Kendry Morales kid who defected from Cuba? I know he worked out a few months back but I haven't heard anythng since.
 
Fifty said:
That would make no fucking sense, and I love the guy. Here we are trying to cut costs in every area....still rebuilding....playoffs aren't in sight, and we're going to waste over 10 million a season on this guy? What was his old salary? 15 million? 20 million? Even if he takes a massive paycut it's not worth it. Even if we raise the budget a little bit, because we're now profitable, don't waste it on the same guy who has taken us nowhere in the last few years. Spend that money on 3-4 players, maybe for the bullpen.


They only lost 8 million this past season, and the Canadian dollar is on the rise...
Delgado was getting 18-20 million, so if he takes 10 mil a year that'll be ok
 
I needed the laugh today, and didn't want to start another thread:

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:lol
 

Joe

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buddha already was a yankee
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lofton will likely (hopefully) find himself in a rockies uniform next season and it appears stottlemyre will be back in 2005. WHY GOD WHY?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Ugh that Stottlemeyer news (yikes, what the hell was I thinking with the "knews" I already had here) was maybe # 3 on the list of things I didn't want to hear (with signing Pedro at 1 and trading Brown for Thompson at 2.)

It's going to get worse...
 
He's not the reason the Yanks lost, but I can't see where Stottlemeyer had a positive impact on the pitching staff this season. Obviously, Vazquez fell apart this year and Mel couldn't get him on track. The very fact that it was found that there was nothing wrong with his shoulder shows some ineptness on Stottlemeyer's part in helping Vazquez with his mechanics. He went to complete shit after the All Star game.
 
speshylives said:
He's not the reason the Yanks lost, but I can't see where Stottlemeyer had a positive impact on the pitching staff this season. Obviously, Vazquez fell apart this year and Mel couldn't get him on track. The very fact that it was found that there was nothing wrong with his shoulder shows some ineptness on Stottlemeyer's part in helping Vazquez with his mechanics. He went to complete shit after the All Star game.


then maybe it was mental. stots has fixed many pitchers before, but there's only so much you can tell a guy. if he cant fix his mechanics and get his head out of his ass, there's nothing stots can do about it.
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bishoptl

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Emerson College student Manda Dugay, 28, wasn’t among the first 300 fans who got into the photo line, and was weeping in a roped-off area. Johnny Damon, surprising Macy’s officials, stepped toward her, reaching out, and she stretched across the rope to kiss his hand. (Globe Staff Photo / Pat Greenhouse)

o_O
 

theo

Contest Winner
hahahaha
baltimore will never learn
PITCHING PITCHING PITCHING
add all the bats you want, youll never climb out of the cellar without PITCHING!
 

Desperado

Member
The Astros today removed the interim tag from Phil Garner, selecting him as the club's manager for 2005.

"I'm happy. ... This thing all came together quickly this afternoon. We had long talks and we got things wrapped up this afternoon. I'm very pleased," Garner said.

The move was announced at a press conference this evening.

yay. just don't fuck up in the playoffs again next year, phil
 

Joe

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CHOO CHOO!!!

We love our Astros in Houston.
And all across the lone star state.
We're Texas Proud...and we shout it loud.
Our brand of baseball is great!

awwww, that's a real sweet poem miguel. :)


:lol
 

Scoobert

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Pavano is now a FA. He will be missed as a Marlin. He just isn't worth what he wants, he's a 50-50 career pitcher with one great year.

What happened to the old days where one good year in baseball didn't mean you make $10million the next year?

Also, the Marlins have offered Bowa the Bench Coaching job.
 
"I know that Carl's main concern is that he wants to go to an organization that's committed to winning," Shapiro said. "He is going to want to meet the personnel. He's going to evaluate the defense and the run support he would have on a particular team."

Why does this say to me.. "Carl want's to win 20 games while maintaining an ERA around 7."
 

Willco

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Baltimore probably needs Delgado, because they have nobody to play first base. They're going to cut Palmeiro and Segui.
 
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