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Batman: Arkham Origins |OT| Justice from the head of Prototype And Hulk: UD
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spacemonkeynation
Member
That's what makes that encounter work narratively. He's as tough as he should be. I found that using the quick Batclaw on him as often as possible makes the fight much more manageable. Also when he is attacking you wait on the counter prompts or you'll miss the counter by doing it to early.
doniewhalberg
Member
Quick batclaw like others said, and jsut build your combo as high as you can, it'll activate a little sequence of events maybe 3 times? Where you can do lots of damage. Just stick with it
Really digging the score Relix, my favourite of the three games for sure.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Yeah, a bunch of us have already run into it. Definitely a glitch that they'll have to patch. I would hope they are quick on something like this. Quick as in, today.
Really? I had the opposite reaction. I feel like a tank compared to AC.
Schweinehund
Member
Man, multiplayer sucks as batman/robin. It's hard to be stealthy when
A.) They have 360 view with third person, as soon as they see you they just spam roll, which for whatever dumb as hell reason doesn't consume stamina.
B.) They have enhanced vision and can see you as soon as you spawn. This is dumb.
Forget taking down elite's as well. It's also amazing how little adjusted batman and robin are for multiplayer. Spraying explosive gel takes 5 mins...
A.) They have 360 view with third person, as soon as they see you they just spam roll, which for whatever dumb as hell reason doesn't consume stamina.
B.) They have enhanced vision and can see you as soon as you spawn. This is dumb.
Forget taking down elite's as well. It's also amazing how little adjusted batman and robin are for multiplayer. Spraying explosive gel takes 5 mins...
batman2million
Member
I went with mild expectations for this game and so far I'm enjoying it. Even when I saw the 1st gameplay footage a while back I realized that this was just AC with a little improvements.
Personally, I don't find the writing to be on par compared to the other games. I feel as they're trying so hard to play on the "Batman is young and fierce" that they're forgetting the notion that he's still a human.
The voice actors are the biggest issue. Alfred is just unbearable. Oh well, after I finish this, I doubt I'll ever come back to it.
Personally, I don't find the writing to be on par compared to the other games. I feel as they're trying so hard to play on the "Batman is young and fierce" that they're forgetting the notion that he's still a human.
The voice actors are the biggest issue. Alfred is just unbearable. Oh well, after I finish this, I doubt I'll ever come back to it.
O.DOGG
Member
Yeah, I decided to quit for the time being and wait for a fix. Hopefully they patch it fast.
All this game does so far is make me want to replay Arkham City.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
How is the verticality of the MP levels?
RPGCrazied
Member
I'm confused. Some say the writing is stellar, some say its poor. Which is it?
Schweinehund
Member
They're reasonably open, you can hide pretty well as b/r, and they regenerate health. I have yet to see a b/r win, and I doubt its possible unless they're two people who play together.
Apparently the rank resetting everytime you exit is a known issue for pc gamers, I'm going to focus on single player for now.
SJRB
Gold Member
Having the skills in an unlock tree now is complete bullshit. In Arkham City you could just pick whatever you deemed nescessary and discard the rest. But now I have to upgrade my suit 6 fucking times before I get to some actual useful stuff.
Having the knife dodge takedown tucked away behind 3 suit upgrades is stupid as hell. It's not even an actual skill tree either.
I feel that the overall user interface is three steps back from Arkham City. The blue distortion background and font type really annoys me for some reason, makes the menus unorganised and cumbersome to navigate.
Having the knife dodge takedown tucked away behind 3 suit upgrades is stupid as hell. It's not even an actual skill tree either.
I feel that the overall user interface is three steps back from Arkham City. The blue distortion background and font type really annoys me for some reason, makes the menus unorganised and cumbersome to navigate.
Have not played the game myself, but the Sess gave a pretty fair review of the game and claimed that the story and writing alone could be well worth the price of the game, as it was the most memorable aspect of the game. Not too say that the game's mechanics were bad, but more of the same thing leads to the game not feeling as fresh.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
agreed, do not like the skill changes at all. I level up and open the menu up, and just kinda sigh because I don't really WANT any of these things.
And the font in this game is so ugly. The UI on the whole is a downgrade from Rocksteady's efforts.
SkyTurnsRed
Banned
What's the rough time estimate on story alone?
chickdigger802
Banned
the fuck? Was the knife dodge takedown even an unlockable skill in AC? I swear i could always do it.
spacemonkeynation
Member
Anyone claiming the story is worse than the others either hasn't played or finished the first 2 games or is completely disillusioned.
Shin Johnpv
Member
Picked up the Wii U version last night, but went to sleep when I got home. Put in about an hour so far this morning (yeah to every other friday off from work). I'm kind of disappointed by how many Wii U add ons from AC they've taken out of AO. I liked the way the cryptographer worked so much better in the Wii U AC, than the other versions of AA/AC, but that's gone now, as is using the touch screen for item management, and upgrade selection and such. Pretty much the only thing the touch screen does now is give you a map .
Game seems to run fine though, even with the Wii U set to 1080p so that is an improvement over AC at least.
Has anyone tried putting in the code for their Deathstroke DLC? Mine doesn't work and I called Nintendo and they basically said to call WB.
. Game seems to run fine though, even with the Wii U set to 1080p so that is an improvement over AC at least.
Has anyone tried putting in the code for their Deathstroke DLC? Mine doesn't work and I called Nintendo and they basically said to call WB.
It was always an unlockable, you had the ability to dodge right away but didn't have the takedown until you got it through the upgrades.
The perfect Dark
Banned
Agreed. Origins definitely has the best story and presentation.
RPGCrazied
Member
I hope the batcave is used more this time. I want to use the bat computer!!
chickdigger802
Banned
seems a bit weird that batman has a more aggressive 'combat stance' now, yet still walks around like he has a wooden plank in his back.
Really liking it so far. Fighting feels pretty much the same, but it's such a great fighting system, it's ok.
My PC's running it just fine, it's nice and runs at a steady FPS.
The thing I'm really liking so far, is the Detective Mode. They really put more work into them, and so far, I've done 2 (with a 3rd that just popped up out of nowhere on the map). Hope there are tons of these (but with less hints). A DLC loaded with these would get a purchase from me.
My PC's running it just fine, it's nice and runs at a steady FPS.
The thing I'm really liking so far, is the Detective Mode. They really put more work into them, and so far, I've done 2 (with a 3rd that just popped up out of nowhere on the map). Hope there are tons of these (but with less hints). A DLC loaded with these would get a purchase from me.
spacemonkeynation
Member
I understand the frustration of systems being different from previous series entries, but this is also a new game. It's a balancing and progression design decision.
I feel like the UI design is a lot better than City's. This is actually well organized and easy to navigate. I do hate the interference effect though. And the white text on dark background is really eye straining.
spacemonkeynation
Member
I've always hated the stiff walking and turning animations in these games. It pulls you right out of things. I hope they do a better job with that stuff next gen.
dirtywhirlwind
Member
Did I miss it or is there no difficulty settings? It's way to easy. And fuck the upgrade system forcing me to waste points on useless armor. That has always been the last upgrades you get.
krameriffic
Member
I am finding the EXACT same thing. They made the enemies so fast and aggressive that striking becomes detrimental unless you're in a group that has become very spread out and you can use Batman's super duper attack range to avoid attacks. I've done something in Origins that I've never been able to do before: I've won several fights against large groups of regular guys doing nothing but countering and combo takedowns. You couldn't viably do that before because enemies didn't constantly try to punch you and your combo would drop off.
Also, where the fuck are my critical strikes? I have critical counters and combo boost, but critical strikes are nowhere to be found on the tree about 4 hours into the game. That was always like the first thing I went for in Asylum and City.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Picked up the Wii U version last night, but went to sleep when I got home. Put in about an hour so far this morning (yeah to every other friday off from work). I'm kind of disappointed by how many Wii U add ons from AC they've taken out of AO. I liked the way the cryptographer worked so much better in the Wii U AC, than the other versions of AA/AC, but that's gone now, as is using the touch screen for item management, and upgrade selection and such. Pretty much the only thing the touch screen does now is give you a map
Game seems to run fine though, even with the Wii U set to 1080p so that is an improvement over AC at least.
Has anyone tried putting in the code for their Deathstroke DLC? Mine doesn't work and I called Nintendo and they basically said to call WB.
Wow that is extremely disappointing. Why would they remove those features?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
What? The first thing the game asks you is what difficulty you want to play it at.
And I haven't been forced to purchase armor upgrades, it's that I absolutely need them. They've made Hard a little more unpredictable, enemies don't really wait their turn anymore. I've gotten my ass kicked a few times already.
doniewhalberg
Member
I really like it. Seeing this era of batman in game form is really cool, and I think they have Bruce and Alfred pitch perfect. Penguin seems excellent too. I think people will remain conflicted though because this is a different batman, driven by temperament and impatience. People will either perceive that as him being written as he was earlier in his career, some will perceive that as him being badly written compared to AA/AC. I guess which one being right will be decided by whether they can make it a theme through the game and have it pay off. Still early on here, so no idea if that'll be the case.
RPGCrazied
Member
He's in everything, same with Troy Baker.
chickdigger802
Banned
sessler gives a ton of praise to the story, so thats enough for me to be a bit hyped to play when i get home.
So boss fights utilize counter mechanic more? Finally! Should be good fun on ng+.
What is hardmode like in batman games? I wouldn't mind a more challenging melee combat, but i'm scared that it will make the stealth stuff more frustrating.
I die enough against gun wielding folks in AC on normal as it is :/
So boss fights utilize counter mechanic more? Finally! Should be good fun on ng+.
What is hardmode like in batman games? I wouldn't mind a more challenging melee combat, but i'm scared that it will make the stealth stuff more frustrating.
I die enough against gun wielding folks in AC on normal as it is :/
doniewhalberg
Member
I think hard gives you enemies types like guys with guns, shock sticks etc. much earlier in the game. New game plus will remove counter signals , then apparently there's a brutal no die mode too.
SJRB
Gold Member
Balancing decision? In Arkham City I deliberately didn't upgrade my suit to keep the game more challenging. I made the choice, whereas in Origins I have no choice but to fully upgrade my armor before I can unlock anything else.
That's not balancing, that's restricting freedom of choice for no reason whatsoever. I'm totally okay with certain unlocks becoming available as the story progresses, but it just seems backward to force people to put three upgrades into the suit before they can do anything else. If this was a proper skill three, the suit upgrades would diverge into their own path.
[I know this is borderline nitpicking territory, but it just rubs me the wrong way]
dirtywhirlwind
Member
Oh, crap, you're right. Guess I missed it then. I just wasted 5-6 hours on playing Normal. Oh well, guess I have to start over
Shin Johnpv
Member
No idea but it's really disappointing, I thought those add on's brought a lot to the game.
Monkeylord
Member
My "Heroes and Villains" pack turned up today, but I'm waiting till my GF gets home and we've had dinner before jumping in. My GF wants to see it too, so we'll experience it together.
I was surprised to see that the Deathstroke pre-order DLC came on a card in the game case with the other DLC instead of being emailed to me, and also I was VERY surprised to find that it didn't come in the steelbook, but rather in its proper game case with the empty steelbook simply strapped to the green 360 case. I must admit, I'm not complaining as it would look out of place on my shelf with Asylum and City in normal cases and then a lumpy steelbook wedged next to them.
I'm looking forward to this evening now!
I was surprised to see that the Deathstroke pre-order DLC came on a card in the game case with the other DLC instead of being emailed to me, and also I was VERY surprised to find that it didn't come in the steelbook, but rather in its proper game case with the empty steelbook simply strapped to the green 360 case. I must admit, I'm not complaining as it would look out of place on my shelf with Asylum and City in normal cases and then a lumpy steelbook wedged next to them.
I'm looking forward to this evening now!
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Really surprised to hear they took all the gamepad stuff from AC out of the Wii U version, though good to hear the port is optimized for performance this time.
I wonder if they chose to focus all time on optimization rather than engineering new gamepad mechanics after the criticism AC:AE got for poor performance.
I wonder if they chose to focus all time on optimization rather than engineering new gamepad mechanics after the criticism AC:AE got for poor performance.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Yeash.
Glad to hear there are some benefits to B/R. I'm sure when people get the hang of them they'll be nigh on unstoppable. I really like the idea of the MP; I love those kind of modes: Snake vs Many in MGO 1 & 2; Payne Killer in MP3. Wish more games tried it.
BurningNad
Member
He was the Penguin in AC too.
BurritoBushido
Member
Can anyone tell me if theyve added any kind of replay saves for Challenge Maps. I would love to see that
chickdigger802
Banned
i don't mind new VA but why is Baker trying to mimmick hamill's joker (which he does well) while Batman's VA sounds nothing like Conroy?
Schweinehund
Member
Hard mode is pretty fun, I'm not sure how much it changes the stealth encounters because I haven't played normal but they aren't too bad right now.
If its like AC's hard mode, the stealth encounters won't be that bad until the very end. The base of wonder tower was the hardest stealth encounter in that game imo.