Wait, I thought you were telling specific people to vote, you already kind of recruited Kark early in the day phase (or tried to, he mostly ignored you until his reads list) now you are looking for information on who votes?
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Batman [Mafia] |OT| The mafia game Gafia deserves , but not the one it needs
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Wait, I thought you were telling specific people to vote, you already kind of recruited Kark early in the day phase (or tried to, he mostly ignored you until his reads list) now you are looking for information on who votes?
weemadarthur
Member
YYou mean, the information on who is willing to indulge you?
At this point, you're going to need to state if you're a day cop.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
You're reading too much into my words. The action is out of my hands. However, the outcome of the action will be determined by the players who vote for the player I chose before the day began. The action will provide information. That's what I mean.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I'm not a day cop.
weemadarthur
Member
Like, you pick someone for some sort of information read, but the moderator PMs anyone voting for them and not you?
Xamtheking
Member
So you have already opened Pandora's box and it now falls to the rest of us to control it as much as we can
Ok, let's do this before we have a vague back and forth for the next day and a half. I am reading into your words because you are talking in vague ramblings, I'm trying to dissect what you are trying to say. Am I right that whatever this whole thing is, the votes have to be on the person at day end?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I didn't make this game, bro.
I can answer specific questions. I'm trying to be as forthcoming as possible without affecting scum action. For that, town has to be as blind as scum is. I am actually really sorry about it, because it's misleading and anti-town in itself.
The answer to that is yes.
Xamtheking
Member
You sent in the command, fam
weemadarthur
Member
At some point, you need to tell your selected guinea pigs who to vote for. When is this revelation scheduled?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
It seemed like the best decision at the time. Unless I got insanely lucky and people just happened to put the right amount of votes on the right guy, I don't know how else this could have played out.
Oh, that's no secret.
It's Camjo-Z.
And you chose a person night 1? I'm forced to assume you kind of chose at random then since you were asking us to catch you up on what happened day 1 and who had claimed? Or was that all an act?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I didn't read the entirety of Day 1, but my selection wasn't random.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I was hoping a few players found his actions suspect enough to follow me through on my early day push. I don't think this is altogether as crazy as the rest of this whole roleclaim has been. lol
Xamtheking
Member
Launch
I think you fucked up real good
I think you fucked up real good
weemadarthur
Member
Interest level: declining rapidly
You picked a player that used a role which is almost always one shot, and town. What the hell else do you need to know?
You picked a player that used a role which is almost always one shot, and town. What the hell else do you need to know?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
lol
I tried.
I tried.
Xamtheking
Member
You blew your load much too early
Say we don't vote for Camjo, does your power do anything else
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
wait. oh.
You guys are assuming the action involves Camjo-Z directly. It doesn't.
You guys are assuming the action involves Camjo-Z directly. It doesn't.
I'm guessing you are some type of investigation (you don't have to answer that part specifically, I'm not probing there) and I can't help but notice the theme that some people have adopted for today. We've seen shitty overrides in this community before. We don't know Flux's alignment yet or Topo's alignment but we've had a case of town saving scum to lynch another town, we've had someone just blow their override to kill the person that was already about to get hammered. So yes, the actions around the override were garbage, I've said that plenty but this is such an odd thread to follow. One player dead in a game and we are blowing a PR to check the person with a confirmed override.
Yes, if this isn't an investigation of some sort then this post doesn't apply at all and we can all just ignore it when your plan (if it's real) comes to fruition.
Xamtheking
Member
Did you even get a Role PM
Nothing makes sense anymore
I'm being strung along by a heavy chain. Do you want me to put the ball gag in now or later?
weemadarthur
Member
Is it hard to make up a fake role when you can't run it past anyone else behind the scenes?
The only role I've seen was standard commuter. There's no evidence in town's possession that the roles are anything above normal. This convoluted claim sounds above normal, so it is suspect.
The only role I've seen was standard commuter. There's no evidence in town's possession that the roles are anything above normal. This convoluted claim sounds above normal, so it is suspect.
Xamtheking
Member
BatmanDSM
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Camjo-Z is not the target of this action. I never said he was. The targets are those who vote for him. That's why I need the votes on him.
It was slightly not standard, he got to choose whether he wanted to be odd or even night commuter which is something new at least. This does sound overly convoluted but I wouldn't write off convoluted roles based on one flip.
weemadarthur
Member
*We've seen
Xamtheking
Member
Alright
Who's your actual target then
weemadarthur
Member
Yeah, but do you want to cooperate with them? Lol
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I don't have a specific one.
Ok, I think that's all my questions. You did not make it exceedingly clear that the votee was not the target but that's fine, you're tip-toeing and it makes sense to me now maybe. I still don't like how this smells of scum trying to split the vote and, conveniently, some of that split is going to the mayor who might be bulletproof or might be a serial killer or might just be confirmed town.
Xamtheking
Member
How convenient
Potentially, it's more if I trust the player than the role. Circumstances too, I was almost on board with this until it turned back into "let's vote for Camjo guys" but slightly better this time because we don't have to lynch him, just put a few votes.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Split the vote between who and who? We don't even have a defined day target.
And this is a mayor/something else we're dealing with here. Regardless if he was the mayor, the danger of losing him isn't altogether that big a deal because he's already used his ability.
For who?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I actually laughed out loud. From everything I've said, this is a very reasonable explanation. I don't know how to defend against this without revealing my whole role.
Xamtheking
Member
You're telling us to vote for Camjo
When we don't eve know what your supposed power will do to some random person
When we don't eve know what your supposed power will do to some random person
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
God damnit. A big post of mine just got deleted. I hate everything.
Ok.
I don't care much about Launch's supposed role right now. It feels distracting. I just want to ask: Do you know what your power does (even if it occurs after an indeterminate amount of time) and would you be able to share it with us after the votes you're asking for are placed?
Moving onto other things, questions for Coppa:
You seemed worried when Mazre predicted you'd be the lynch for the previous day phase. What are your thoughts on that now?
It took you a while to place a vote yesterday, and when you did it was Camjo. You did say in that same post however:
Were you afraid to place a vote on him yourself because you didn't want to look too worried about his prediction? This seems like an odd post to make, bringing attention to other people's suspects (whom you toootally don't suspect) and calling them out on not voting for him. Seems like a good way to distance yourself from any bloodshed.
You said on day 1 that you were against discussing potential role mechanics, the number of scum players, etc. Sorian's and Kark's discussion got pretty meta and you chimed in a couple of times regarding camjo's potential reasons for using his power when he did and the nature of his role, so would you say you're comfortable with discussing such things now?
This doesn't seem to have led anywhere. Have you "re-read his posts" yet? If so, please share your thoughts.
Vote: Coppanuva
Ok.
I don't care much about Launch's supposed role right now. It feels distracting. I just want to ask: Do you know what your power does (even if it occurs after an indeterminate amount of time) and would you be able to share it with us after the votes you're asking for are placed?
Moving onto other things, questions for Coppa:
You seemed worried when Mazre predicted you'd be the lynch for the previous day phase. What are your thoughts on that now?
It took you a while to place a vote yesterday, and when you did it was Camjo. You did say in that same post however:
Were you afraid to place a vote on him yourself because you didn't want to look too worried about his prediction? This seems like an odd post to make, bringing attention to other people's suspects (whom you toootally don't suspect) and calling them out on not voting for him. Seems like a good way to distance yourself from any bloodshed.
You said on day 1 that you were against discussing potential role mechanics, the number of scum players, etc. Sorian's and Kark's discussion got pretty meta and you chimed in a couple of times regarding camjo's potential reasons for using his power when he did and the nature of his role, so would you say you're comfortable with discussing such things now?
This doesn't seem to have led anywhere. Have you "re-read his posts" yet? If so, please share your thoughts.
Vote: Coppanuva
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I can't share with you what it does until the next day phase. I won't be able to mention it in the twilight, and mentioning it before day end may cause people to jump ship. However, I'm not lying when I say that it won't kill anyone, not even Camjo.
Xamtheking
Member
Are you not going to tell us
Or are you not allowed to tell us
Splitting the vote between Camjo and whoever we end up actually lynching. I'm sure at day end we will be sitting between two candidates again, maybe 3 if we are feeling really frisky, and you want to add in a small subset to another person which A) let's people sit out of the vote on day 2 where scum can still hide within votes fairly easily (making it even easier on them) and B) with enough splitting of the vote, Camjo can become an easy lynch to last minute fuckery. We've already lost voting records for day one until such a time that we actually see Topo or Flux's flip so I'd like day 2's vote to actually hold full weight which this kind of pulls away from.
And this is a mayor/something else maybe. I know this is a shocker but all we know is that he overrode something, did it ever occur to you (because it did to me and I thought this might be at least a question in others minds but everyone is just taking his word at gospel) that Camjo is bluffing? Look at his claim again, he gives us weird flavor and then ends it with "hey, maybe I'm bulletproof, yeah baby!" So yes, maybe he is hiding that he is an activated serial killer or, he tacked on extra to his role as people tend to do and he was just the mayor/governor and that's it, and with his override, he thought he would be considered verified town and now wanted to add on that he might be bulletproof so that scum would have to dance with WIFOM if they wanted to night kill him. That's why the talk on poking at Camjo was irritating me. He's not a good choice to lynch today and it's just a rash decision, what he gave us in his claim was stupid and completely unneeded, he could have just said he was the governor but no, he went out of his way to say more that then ended up with us thinking he might be a scum recruit or could turn into a SK or something. Why even claim all that? I was trying to see if I could distract away from that thought so then scum would have to dick around with what to do during their night kills but I guess I'll spell it out instead.
weemadarthur
Member
Mazre still looking pretty scummy. Offering nothing but jokes. Mostly ditto for Xam.
then how about you just do that instead of wasting more time with drip feed nonsense
I'm echoing your post and I don't mind drawing attention to the fact that I'm agreeing with you again. I can't sit on all of the inactives at once or I would so I want to say that Coppa's "be back later, don't worry about me" has definitely reached it's expiration date at this point and while I gave him a slight pass last night, it's getting on my nerves that we can only get him in here when someone puts his name in red.
Surprisingly, Xam is out of the woodwork asking questions of Launch's claim which is another reversal from yesterday where he sat in the corner for all the Camjo talk. I still have no clue what is up with Mazre.
Xamtheking
Member
Mazre is a scum that has no fucking idea what to do now because scum chat got disabled
As opposed to yesterday where he was so on top of things and was hiding in plain sight perfectly? I take it you trust Topo completely then?
Launch... ugh. I kinda believe you, I guess? But with Camjo-Z being the target this is a tricky one - I don't want him dead. If this is an option seriously considered, come tomorrow, I might be up for it - depending on how the numbers look. What's the majority needed right now? If I haven't miscounted, eight? To be honest, that would be manageable. On the other hand... Day One's end, so there's that. 
Xamtheking
Member
Yeah
It makes sense