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Battleborn Open Beta thread: April 8 (PS4)/ April 13 (PC/XB1) - April 18
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LapinAgile
Member
I'd prefer they try something new other than stale sequels being churned out. I am enjoying the hell out of the beta so far, still trying to get a grip on character matchups but I think they have a winner here.
I don't think it's quite bad, but yeah, they should have made Borderlands 3. I've replayed the entire handsome collection twice now and would love a current gen, 60fps Borderlands game that improves on the core design. I'm not sure what they were thinking when they punted on their premier franchise for this, likely, roadkill.
It's better than Sunset Overdrive's dialogue at least because you couldn't escape it in that game. Battleborn is such an audiovisual clusterfuck, it makes it really hard to pay any attention to what the characters are saying. It's all wise-ass white noise to me.
elkniwcire
Member
I'm not sure why but I feel like I would like this better if it were F2P.
Maybe because it feels like a F2P game? In more than one way
Maybe because it feels like a F2P game? In more than one way
I feel like that while this game wants to do everything it can to not be a Borderlands game, yet it's more or less a bad version of a Borderlands game. Didn't play much, but what I did play was very dull. The writing made me roll my eyes. The variety in actions was lacking.
I mean, good on them, they tried something different. It's just not for me. I hope other people find enjoyment in it.
I mean, good on them, they tried something different. It's just not for me. I hope other people find enjoyment in it.
Impressions in here make me even more think this will be a huge bomb.
Is it? This is made by Gearbox and Overwtch by Blizzard after all.
Is it? This is made by Gearbox and Overwtch by Blizzard after all.
This game fully embodies the word mediocre. Holy shit.
From bad animations to poor performance (how is this not 60fps when it looks like this I'll never understand) to laughable particle effects to just plain boring gameplay.... It's hard to believe this same studio made Borderlands.
Not to mention you have to queue up online for solo single player missions.
I wish them the best and hopefully there's improvements in the pipe but this game is just not for me. I've never been so turned off by a game before.
From bad animations to poor performance (how is this not 60fps when it looks like this I'll never understand) to laughable particle effects to just plain boring gameplay.... It's hard to believe this same studio made Borderlands.
Not to mention you have to queue up online for solo single player missions.
I wish them the best and hopefully there's improvements in the pipe but this game is just not for me. I've never been so turned off by a game before.
Yeah feels very much like playing Borderlands. Not only the graphics reminds you at that but also the silly humour which was clearly ripped out of some Borderlands game. I've only played one Single Player mission (The one with escorting the big robot) so maybe the Versus mode will feel different but for now Gearbox should've make an Borderlands MOBA instead imo. Seems like they couldn't dissociate themself enough from their last games with Battleborn so why even bother then?
elkniwcire
Member
The dialogue is really bad isn't it? It's like they thought people liked Borderlands' dialogue and so they decided to lean on that style of dialogue even harder this time. It's just trying so hard to be over the top outrageous.
This game feels SO MUCH like Borderlands. I don't understand why they didn't just make Borderlands. I get wanting to do something different, but this isn't something different. Its just Borderlands but with MOBA-light gameplay and a stripped down campaign
It's like Borderlands ugly cousin, it just doesn't actually feel very good to play, the aiming is imprecise, the framerate is poor, graphics are mediocre, if beta actually meant beta, rather than demo/server stress test I'd think that the game may improve before release, but recent history tells me otherwise.
PaulExcellent
Member
I actually really like this game so far!
This is actually the first MOBA game I've actually liked and wanted to keep playing after the initial hour.
The story mode missions seemed more like a "training mode", instead of just a regular story mode. Still, it was pretty fun and it helped me get accustomed to the game's controls and characters. It definitely tries to not come off too much as a MOBA in this aspect. Since most players were new to the game, it was a bit of a mess at first, but after a bit, everyone was interacting and working together as a group. Pretty cool stuff.
The VS mode I played was the "destroy the opponent's stuff" one, and... man, it was rough. Two of my matches actually went 0-100 because my team was too focused on killing the opponents rather than actually doing what needed to be done. This game is not Call of Duty and people need to understand that.
With that said, the actual gameplay is really cool and works for people new to the genre.
I used the gentleman sniper robot and the stereotype soldier and had a blast with both characters. Their specials were fun to use and worked well assisting others when the team was on track. Really liked the many different things you can buy with gold, too. Adds a fun twist to what essentially is "capture the flag".
Other things I noticed:
Aim assist is off, so you have to be go to the settings to turn it on. I didn't need it, so I didn't use it. Still, I can DEFINITELY see why people might be struggling.
The game's framerate was dipping a bit on PS4. 30FPS is weird, but it didn't affect my playing in this game. Would have preferred 60, though.
The dialogue was on par with League's, so I didn't see a problem with the "Gearbox Edge" or whatever peeps are saying. Maybe it's just me.
The visual style should be adapted and reworked for Borderlands 3. It's good stuff.
The longest I had to wait for a match was 3 minutes. Not too bad, in my opinion.
This is actually the first MOBA game I've actually liked and wanted to keep playing after the initial hour.
The story mode missions seemed more like a "training mode", instead of just a regular story mode. Still, it was pretty fun and it helped me get accustomed to the game's controls and characters. It definitely tries to not come off too much as a MOBA in this aspect. Since most players were new to the game, it was a bit of a mess at first, but after a bit, everyone was interacting and working together as a group. Pretty cool stuff.
The VS mode I played was the "destroy the opponent's stuff" one, and... man, it was rough. Two of my matches actually went 0-100 because my team was too focused on killing the opponents rather than actually doing what needed to be done. This game is not Call of Duty and people need to understand that.
With that said, the actual gameplay is really cool and works for people new to the genre.
I used the gentleman sniper robot and the stereotype soldier and had a blast with both characters. Their specials were fun to use and worked well assisting others when the team was on track. Really liked the many different things you can buy with gold, too. Adds a fun twist to what essentially is "capture the flag".
Other things I noticed:
Aim assist is off, so you have to be go to the settings to turn it on. I didn't need it, so I didn't use it. Still, I can DEFINITELY see why people might be struggling.
The game's framerate was dipping a bit on PS4. 30FPS is weird, but it didn't affect my playing in this game. Would have preferred 60, though.
The dialogue was on par with League's, so I didn't see a problem with the "Gearbox Edge" or whatever peeps are saying. Maybe it's just me.
The visual style should be adapted and reworked for Borderlands 3. It's good stuff.
The longest I had to wait for a match was 3 minutes. Not too bad, in my opinion.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I mean Overwatch doesn't have a Penguin who talks shit and rides around in a mech. Or a mystic alien mushroom.
It's all preference.
TwiztidElf
Member
After having spent some time on it today, I have to say I like it.
The story mode stuff really has a Destiny Raid feel to it, and the PVP is fairly fun also.
Definitely want to spend some more time with it during the beta.
The story mode stuff really has a Destiny Raid feel to it, and the PVP is fairly fun also.
Definitely want to spend some more time with it during the beta.
you would think that (as this is effectively a demo to sell it to you) they would sort their shit out about matchmaking and the time it takes to get into a match....When you play TF2 and come to this, the shit is embarassing, 30 mins in and only managed 2 games as people drop out of the queue
and WTF does it insist on counting all the way down from 75 secs in the character select screen, surely they can implement a ready up button FFS
and WTF does it insist on counting all the way down from 75 secs in the character select screen, surely they can implement a ready up button FFS
Pretty much echoes my thoughts. I've never been a huge MOBA fan, but this game is pretty fun.
I'm going to give the beta a decent run and if I'm still having fun, then yeah I'm gunna buy it. Question on my mind though is PS4 or PC?
I think there essentially is a Ready button, it's just not displayed on-screen, so most players likely just hang there in confusion, not knowing that the game is waiting for them to choose a loadout, because when you only have one it doesn't even look like a loadout selection screen.
For a "Beta" that's basically a demo of the final game, this sure feels like an Alpha.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Okay gearbox you can slow down on the solaire references....
AusRoachman
Member
Just played my first match
Pros:
- no queue
- I like the graphics and some of the character designs and it's good to see some colour in an fps
Negs:
- had no idea erg todo so just ran around and aimlessly killed anyone who turned red
- so much particle spam , combined with numbers popping everywhere it was a sensory overload
- I played the 4 armed dude , can't even remember the name just spam shoot constantly and randomly press triggers and understanding wtf each power does
- the upgrade / unlock thing seems like a nice idea but since I had nfi what any of my powers names etc were I just randomly chose one
Now most of the above I hope comes with time and probably externally reading to understand what each character does but I still think a lot of it could be better explained Ingame somehow .
So yeh overall a mediocre game , doesn't do anything particularly amazing but also isn't entirely terrible . All I can say is I hope gearbox have some spare money left over .
Pros:
- no queue
- I like the graphics and some of the character designs and it's good to see some colour in an fps
Negs:
- had no idea erg todo so just ran around and aimlessly killed anyone who turned red
- so much particle spam , combined with numbers popping everywhere it was a sensory overload
- I played the 4 armed dude , can't even remember the name just spam shoot constantly and randomly press triggers and understanding wtf each power does
- the upgrade / unlock thing seems like a nice idea but since I had nfi what any of my powers names etc were I just randomly chose one
Now most of the above I hope comes with time and probably externally reading to understand what each character does but I still think a lot of it could be better explained Ingame somehow .
So yeh overall a mediocre game , doesn't do anything particularly amazing but also isn't entirely terrible . All I can say is I hope gearbox have some spare money left over .
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Whilst i have no doubt this game will bomb, i wouldnt trust most impressions right now, look at these screens.
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PS4 players have no idea how you play a MOBA, managed to win that 3v5 game just because the enemy had no idea what to do...
Wait for PC player impressions, this is just confused console players who will later complain they get the same Ass creed game every year etc
Justice_Bolt
Member
The game is very good ,i like it!
Reckless Onion
Member
it just amazes me that devs think its alright to release a FPS with 30fps and input lag, it just feels horrible and immediately puts me off
In this day and age where most fps's are 60 or have super low latency, you're not going to cut it
In this day and age where most fps's are 60 or have super low latency, you're not going to cut it
SlickShoes
Member
Console players are so stupid amirite? Us PC players are so much better educated in games that we should laugh at them.
It's a new game and a beta, its not even a proper moba really give folk a chance to learn.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Did i say that ? no.
As you can see by the thread, people don't want to learn, you either get immediate satisfaction (reasons games are so frontloaded) or delete the beta.
Pretty much loved every character ive played so far
I usually don't mind 30fps but when the game looks like this I guess I was expecting it to be 60fps.
SlickShoes
Member
I didnt say you said that no so please stay calm.
Not everyone is deleting the game, the reactionaries that post on forums are probably going wildly either way, other normal humans will give it a try and see what happens. Maybe if they haven't played this type of game before they enjoy it but suck at it to begin with.
Open betas are always full of people trying it for ten minutes and deleting it or proclaiming it as the best thing ever, just let it settle and see what happens.
TheSpoiler
Member
What does the game do to teach "console players" how to play besides loading screen tips? There might be some readable items here and there, but the single player does not serve as a good tutorial. I partially agree with you in terms of how console players generally aren't moba players (possibly, if we pretend that they don't have mid-tier PCs as well), but if that be the case, the game should at least have a running guide to explain the basics.
I could be wrong, it could be tucked away under the menus and the queues, and I'm willing to learn if so. But it's silly to expect people to not be ass at a game if the game does nothing to teach them.
Only played the MP a bit and I have absolutely no idea why this game is 30FPS (looks like it drops below that as well) and without motion blur it looks choppy too. The input lag makes it worse.
Very very basic lighting, flat shaders, not really effects heavy and it doesn't really seem to be using any for of PBR (if it is then it's a poor implementation).
Overwatch looks a lot more advanced graphically and is solid 60FPS. It barely ever even drops the resolution from 1080P despite running a dynamic res setup.
Very very basic lighting, flat shaders, not really effects heavy and it doesn't really seem to be using any for of PBR (if it is then it's a poor implementation).
Overwatch looks a lot more advanced graphically and is solid 60FPS. It barely ever even drops the resolution from 1080P despite running a dynamic res setup.
LapinAgile
Member
I see your point. The impressions and people wanting to swing to Overwatch tells me they still subscribed to the two games being in the same vein. I am getting this on ps4 because my good friend and brother don't have capable pcs but the beta has been an excellent experience so far for us. Both pve and pvp.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Nothing at all, i dont know why they dont actually just show you a short video.
Incursion video
- Main objective: Destroy the enemy mech @ location 1, then destroy enemy mech @ location 2. Do not let the enemy do the same to you.
- Side objective: Hire mercenaries to help you; Beat the mercenaries in a duel, then stand on their platform to summon them.
-Collect gem's to build towers/healing stations/minions/speed and slow boosts
Moveset's etc you can only learn by experience, entry into any moba is going to be rough, the small character pool at launch is helpfull though.
If its your first game, i recommend playing thorn or someone similar as it will let you observe other heroes without being in danger.
Meh, in almost any beta most people have no idea what they are doing. That doesn't tell me anything. I just think the game looks terrible. So much so that I don't even have the desire to try the beta myself.
My personal feelings excluded, there being basically no hype for this and having so many negative impressions already makes me still think this will bomb.
MrJohnSherry
Member
Really hope it doesn't bomb, I am really enjoying it! Where as I had no fun with my time in Overwatch. But, if it does bomb I may be pushed into buying Overwatch because I need a new MP game.
Also, Toby is amazing, great character.
Also, Toby is amazing, great character.
Yeah it looks like people have already decided to give this game it's last rites just because of Overwatch. Which is a shame as these games are very different.
Probably the first time I have agreed with TotalBiscuits point of view on a game too.
It does do a lot of things right, It may be a bit busy with the colour scheme and effects, but its a ton of fun and a bit of a laugh too.
Already Torn
Banned
Because of Overwatch and because it's Gearbox.
Bubble Walrus
Member
I'm obliged to support this game because they've actually included Split Screen. Good bloody on them. 2 thumbs up.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Interesting stuff. Will take a bit getting used to but pretty neat.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
The thing is, just slapping 60fps into games, wont be enough. The other big point is the aiming mechanics.
Play something like Battlefield 4 and Battlefront and then go to DOOM or Halo 5. The aiming in the last two games feels sluggish and unresponsive by contrast to the first two where it feels so crisp and VERY responsive.
A lot of games, sure adapt to 60fps, but when the aiming just plain sucks and annoys, i couldnt care less about 60fps...
I really hope Overwatch hasnt the same issues with the aiming mechanics.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Miko is OP, and I'm fine with that
Halo 5 has sluggish and unresponsive aiming? What is this I am reading?
If anything it's a poster child of why 60FPS for a shooter matters, due to how much it improves the gameplay, even if it means heavy graphical sacrifices.
BuggeryBugz
Member
Yeah I'm not sure what that is about.
I've got this game pre loaded for the one and hoping it's fun at least.
Pixel Fist
Member
Pretty much my view on the game so far.
I moved my PS4 onto my newer Sony TV and the frame rate doesn't seem half as bad as on my old 50" plasma.
Also the PvP will be better when people work out that retreating is ok and not being killed is more important than getting kills; the usual Moba stuff.
I agree. I'm kind of surprised that a lot of people do not like it. It's all about finding a character or two that is fun to play. I saw a bunch of people playing as Rath, so I tried him. Hated it. Oscar Mike and Orendi are really fun, and I'm sure that I'll find more fun ones to play. Game is really appealing to me, even if I really didn't know what I was doing in PvP.
That looked pretty fantastic, thanks. Well, I only have room for one of these games, so I might as well play the beta for Overwatch on the Xbox One before making a decision. Different games, sure, but the campaign resonated way more for me in Battleborn than the PvP, so I need to decide whether I need another campaign game in my collection. I know that I need a new PvP.
Has anyone played Overwatch? Is it fairly easy to jump into?