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[rm082e]

So have they confirmed they're not going to do the Fortnite/COD thing of bazillions of skins that are completely out of place in a military shooter? Have the ruled that out explicitly?

If not, then it sounds like everyone is just hoping Andrew Wilson won't try to strangle as much microtransaction money as possible out of the community...

 

[Represent.]

Well, they did say they were taking inspiration from the movie Civil War (which starts exactly like the trailer).

Holy fuck seriously? Hype skyrocketed. While watching that movie all I could think was "where the fuck it the game version of this?"

 

[Kronark]

this one really stuck in my craw and I want to address it again. When has this ever happened? I can't think of a single highly publicized dust up of this elusive racist server admin harming the reputation of the company. The company who rents the servers did a good enough job filtering this, plus informed game journalists only need to report on it truthfully. The publisher has no control over who rents the servers. It's just the way this business/hobby works. The amazing thing about dedicated servers, if you don't like an admin, you never ever have to play on his server.

No this is all an excuse to funnel gamers toward purchases that a true dedicated server model would make unnecessary. We must never accept this as a valid excuse in any way.

I don't recall any instance where it became a huge public news story or black eye on the company reputation... But man everyone back then saw some shit in the old CS 1.6 / TF 2 dedicated servers. As much as I loved being part of a good community on a dedicated server I'd hop on daily, there were definitely other neo-nazi communities and servers I can't imagine companies would be too happy to be associated with. Even dark stuff like that aside there were wide spread problems with many admins just being complete assholes. They'd want to play a different map so they'd just kill the game in progress, they didn't like that someone was killing them so they'd just ban good players, etc. The environment was ripe for abuse. I still think the value of good player driven communities out weighted all that negative but there were definitely problems.

As more money / investors got into the industry and some social reform happened in the late 2000s / early 2010s there just became a complete risk avoidance on behalf of most corporations. Games like Destiny just started to launch without chat options at all. I do also believe player retition and manipulating matchmaking is a huge part of it as well. I've had way too many 5 wins in a row, 5 losses in a row, repeat in various games where it feels rigged as fuck. I think in large part companies don't like high tier players stomping low tier players because the low tier players usually don't skill up, they quit. Titanfall kind of ate itself in that regard with a lot of people who couldn't be bothered to wallrun just quitting the game instead because someone was 25 - 0 just shitting on them. A lot of modern multiplayer game design within the hero shooter genre leans into skills with cool downs (Overwatch, Destiny, etc) where you just end up kill trading because every few minutes a lesser skilled player gets to hit their ultimate "I win" button. You use your ability to kill someone, then someone kills you while you're on cooldown, etc. Even battle royales lean into this by letting casuals get lucky with better drops on occasion so they can feel more powerful.

So to some extent you can blame devs / publishers for wanting control but I think some part of the blame could be placed on the feet of casual gamers who favour games that let them feel good / powerful and shield them from getting stomped.

 

[ValiantInstance]

I swear it always the same, people still havent learned that a trailer doesnt even remotely represent a finished quality game.
Rememeber this one, yeah? People pre ordering left and right and then you got an unfinished broken game for over a year. Whoever pre orders BF6 is a moron:

Except we've actually seen the game already, and it looks promising so far.

BF2042 on the other hand was dead as soon as the actual game was shown to the public.

 

[Ramiro_Rodriguez]

I swear it always the same, people still havent learned that a trailer doesnt even remotely represent a finished quality game.

We are aware of that it is only an in-engine trailer and not an ingame trailer, but it still looks incredible.
We just wand a few minutes of happiness and to believe
To believe that EA and DICE learned from their mistakes.
To believe that we will get the Battlefield 3 and maybe even Battlefield Bad Company 2 feeling and to get a cool and long enough campaign.

 

[Chittagong]

Looks absolutely incredible. Day 1.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Big ooof, looks like DICE were gutted really hard and operate on a shoestring budget.

 

[Insane Metal]

Haven't seen it as it says in game cinematic bullshit.

 

[TwinB242]

None of it was in game, it says so at the start of the trailer

The short first person abrams section was clearly gameplay. Other scenes (like the buggy in the metro) seem like cutscenes that then transition into in-game gameplay (will clearly be a difference in terms of scriptedness and fidelity but likely not too significant).

edit: Actually, even though it looks a bit too sharp the way the camera pans to the right from the driver's position makes it look like that Buggy set piece is actual gameplay.

 

[clarky]

Big ooof, looks like DICE were gutted really hard and operate on a shoestring budget.

Big ooof? Think you have the wrong forum.

 

[Ironbunny]

If they can bring the original battlefield 2-4 gameplay back with this then i'm all in. Trailer looks okayish but been burned so many times with Battlefield that I will wait for the actual final gameplay to give it any thought. Happy the Arc Raiders is coming out so even if this fails there is most likely a good game to play this year. (Atleast the beta was great).

 

[T4keD0wN]

Big ooof? Think you have the wrong forum.

Nah, cant judge gameplay one bit since they didnt show it, so i judge the graphics which look super dated. After 2042 i am not giving them benefit of the doubt.

 

[Luipadre]

Big ooof? Think you have the wrong forum.

Ikr. Its a cinematic trailer, but it looks really good. Some of us already played the multiplayer and you can find tons of footage online. Its great.

 

[Rush2112]

I don't even play this game but the trailer looks great. better than V for sure.

 

[clarky]

Nah, cant judge gameplay one bit since they didnt show it, so i judge the graphics which look super dated. After 2042 i am not giving them benefit of the doubt.

Behave. Show me something that doesn't look "super dated" then please.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Behave. Show me something that doesn't look "super dated" then please.

 

[clarky]

Yeah good one. I play that game and the graphics are way behind this.

This game right lol.

What a joker.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Yeah good one I play that game and the graphics are way behind this.

What a joker.

Dunno about that, ive played like an hour only, gameplay there looked better than the in-engine cutscenes i am seeing here. From an experienced studio under a publisher as big as EA id expect something that makes it look bad by comparison, Battlefield 3 and 1 were amazing visually at the time, but doesnt seem like DICE can keep up in the graphics department anymore.

 

[clarky]

Dunno about that, ive played like an hour only, gameplay there looked better than the in-engine cutscenes i am seeing here. From an experienced studio under a publisher as big as EA id expect something that makes it look bad by comparison, Battlefield 3 and 1 were amazing visually at the time, but doesnt seem like DICE can keep up in the graphics department anymore.

You need your eyes testing if you think the graphics in Delta Force are better than this cinematic "in-engine" trailer.

Heres some gameplay from a May build, shitty capture but still looks better than Delta Force does on my 4090/5080.



Like I said show me something better.

 

[A.Romero]

Holy fuck seriously? Hype skyrocketed. While watching that movie all I could think was "where the fuck it the game version of this?"

Yes. Here is an article about it: https://www.inverse.com/gaming/next-battlefield-game-campaign-alex-garland-civil-war-inspired

It depends of what aspects of Civil War hype you up but if it's having the US as a war scenario maybe you can try some of the CoD games that take place in the US. I think MW2 is the one where some of the combat takes place in the suburbs.

BF3 has at least one mission in NYC but if I remember correctly is not all out war.

 

[cash_longfellow]

I just love hearing the BF theme, it's definitely one of the best ones out there. I just wish that trailer focused on that more. Just focus on the amazing theme and nothing else.

Still so wild for me to see people say they don't care about the multiplayer when that's literally all Battlefield ever was until Bad Company.


Yuuuup, gotta hit the holidays. When the release rumor was going around about the quarter it'd release in, it was hard to not assume it'd just drop for the holiday.

The multiplayer is what makes Battlefield…I wouldn't have even been mad if they cancelled the single player and used the resources for multiplayer. But if it's good, and helps sell copies, I'm all for it!

 

[cash_longfellow]

Free demo, please?

The open beta will be that pretty much.

 

[cash_longfellow]

Except we've actually seen the game already, and it looks promising so far.

BF2042 on the other hand was dead as soon as the actual game was shown to the public.

Yep…people were screaming for a delay after they showed gameplay, but EA decided to push it out to fix later. Bad move, and I think financially they knew better than to do it with this one.

 

[cash_longfellow]

Dunno about that, ive played like an hour only, gameplay there looked better than the in-engine cutscenes i am seeing here. From an experienced studio under a publisher as big as EA id expect something that makes it look bad by comparison, Battlefield 3 and 1 were amazing visually at the time, but doesnt seem like DICE can keep up in the graphics department anymore.

Or…I don't know…maybe they are more focused on what matters in this type of game..core gameplay

 

[T4keD0wN]

You need your eyes testing if you think the graphics in Delta Force are better than this cinematic "in-engine" trailer.

Heres some gameplay from a May build, shitty capture but still looks better than Delta Force does on my 4090/5080.



Like I said show me something better.

Fine, just doing that is easy:

Spoiler: Heres BF6 vs maxed out Cyberpunk real gameplay

Could throw in some SW Outlaws or Wukong, but those have competely different looking settings plus it wouldnt be very fair, you can fire up Robocop or Spiderman 2 and those will have better looking scenes than the BF6 one below:

For what its worth i do think Battlefield 6 will continue the tradition of making Call of Duty look bad, which is all that matters, but thats not really a high bar. If it plays well itll be a win in my book, but i dont really like how it looks.

Battlefield 6 (promotional footage)

Tempest Rising (debut game, in-game screenshot)

We all know how 2042 trailer vs retail ended up.

Or…I don't know…maybe they are more focused on what matters in this type of game..core gameplay

I am sure they are, this is a reveal trailer thread tho, so ive commented on the trailer. Can you tell me something about core gameplay?

 

[Kerotan]

So have they confirmed they're not going to do the Fortnite/COD thing of bazillions of skins that are completely out of place in a military shooter? Have the ruled that out explicitly?

If not, then it sounds like everyone is just hoping Andrew Wilson won't try to strangle as much microtransaction money as possible out of the community...

It won't be but if this ever becomes wildly successful like cod it'll slowly go down that route.

 

[ZehDon]

Thought the trailer looked pretty good, but I'll hold off for word of mouth. The last Battlefield I enjoyed was BF1 and I skipped BF2042 entirely - dodged a bullet there, it seems.

 

[Ironbunny]

Thought the trailer looked pretty good, but I'll hold off for word of mouth. The last Battlefield I enjoyed was BF1 and I skipped BF2042 entirely - dodged a bullet there, it seems.

I think many people hated BF2042's wingsuit but its the only thing I'd like them to keep from BF2042.

 

[Dalbajobas]

Tempest Rising (debut game, in-game screenshot)

This looks like something from 2004.

 

[ShaikhCroft]

Convince me on day one reviews then I'm going all in on day two.... please be good like good old days!