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Battlefield V: Countdown to launch.
- Thread starter IbizaPocholo
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GenericUser
Member
the open beta killed the little interest I had left for the game
InterMusketeer
Member
I'm good. I know everything I need to know already. You know, when you told your fans not to buy the game.
chilleverest
Member
Nah.
Shai-Tan
Banned
I've already been wait and see since my BF3 pre order didn't pan out how I expected but I did eventually get BF4 and all dlc so if they execute OK I'll jump on eventually. I didn't buy BF1 so it could easily go the other way too I suppose if the revealed maps aren't to my liking. The maps in the beta were not what I want out of Battlefield (vehicles, destruction)
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Calibos
Member
I wish this was all happening sooner. I pre-ordered Black Ops 4, but would much rather play a battlefield game overall. The BFV beta was a complete turnoff for me though. If Dice can give me some gameplay from the Firestorm mode and some guaranteed gameplay improvements before Black Ops 4 launches...I could be persuaded to cancel or delay my purchase of it.
Management: Hey, make sure you make clear you can be a woman soldier in the game in the "Countdown to Launch Article"
Editor: Um, okay. How about a paragraph driving home the fact that the game is striving hard to be gender inclusive?
Management: Uhh, no don't do that, too political. Use the phrase "unmatched choice". And put an image. Sandwich it in there. Put it in the middle of the article so it's not the first image a long running fan sees but it's also not the last. Make it....a woman's face. The Battlefield series has always focused on the player's faces. It's been a staple of the series.
Editor: You got it, fam.
Editor: Um, okay. How about a paragraph driving home the fact that the game is striving hard to be gender inclusive?
Management: Uhh, no don't do that, too political. Use the phrase "unmatched choice". And put an image. Sandwich it in there. Put it in the middle of the article so it's not the first image a long running fan sees but it's also not the last. Make it....a woman's face. The Battlefield series has always focused on the player's faces. It's been a staple of the series.
Editor: You got it, fam.
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MiguelItUp
Member
Same, and I'm pretty bummed about it to say the least. I've been a fan since 1942 and have played every iteration since. Well, sans the first Bad Company. But I've always been a large fan. BF1 was absolutely phenomenal IMO, there was so much about it that I loved, and when it dropped it was all I played for months.
However, with BFV, I played one round of the open beta which I didn't even finish, and I immediately uninstalled the game. It did absolutely nothing for me, not only did it feel like a reskin of BF1 to me (just the look and feel of the game, not so much the aesthetic), but it also felt like a large step backward from the previous iteration.
I still don't know how I feel about Black Ops IV yet, but I feel like it's certainly enticing me more than BFV is, and that has never happened with me.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Pot Meet Kettle
Member
Not a good year for DICE, between this and the Star Wars Battlefront II thing.
Management: Hey, make sure you make clear you can be a woman soldier in the game in the "Countdown to Launch Article"
Editor: Um, okay. How about a paragraph driving home the fact that the game is striving hard to be gender inclusive?
Management: Uhh, no don't do that, too political. Use the phrase "unmatched choice". And put an image. Sandwich it in there. Put it in the middle of the article so it's not the first image a long running fan sees but it's also not the last. Make it....a woman's face. The Battlefield series has always focused on the player's faces. It's been a staple of the series.
Editor: You got it, fam.
I mean it's obvious what they're doing. You've never seen them market their other games like this before.
niveaformen
Banned
From what I'm hearing not many expect (or want for that matter) BF5 to do well. Apart from hating EA, why? Some of you are saying too similar. Is that it? What was so good about BF1 that isn't here? The only thing close I have played is BLOPS 3 on xbone (stop using mice you fuckers) and Black Ops 4 is getting a lot of good vibes from the community.
Shai-Tan
Banned
That's interesting. I did the same. Like played through a third of a round and noped right out of it. I was thinking it was possibly just not liking how the map played and not getting used to the changed to gunplay they are making every iteration (I liked both BC2 and BF4 despite large difference in how they play) but ehhh I don't know. I do watch streamers like Stoddeh and Youtubers like Xfactorgaming which could pull me back into it if I see good footage.
TheSadRanger
Banned
I do, but unfortunately cheating on PC is so out of hand that it's ruined the fun of the series for me
Hudo
Member
I feel weird that I find what I have seen from Black Ops IIII somehow more engaging. Weird times. They might even have "nailed" this Battle Royale thing in Black Ops IIII (someone described it as a polished version of PUBG). It will be truly interesting to see how both games will do this holiday.
That being said, I'm planning to buy neither^^.
That being said, I'm planning to buy neither^^.
-MD-
Member
Yeah, obviously.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I do, but unfortunately cheating on PC is so out of hand that it's ruined the fun of the series for me
Got to just love non-dedicated servers like we used to have back in the day to help curb it.
manfestival
Member
I liked the beta for the new stuff. I didn't mind the attrition system but it needed some work. There is also a faux sense of teamwork being more necessary but it's just about as necessary as it was in the previous titles. I loved the new gunplay and TTK. I am concerned that they may nerfed it hard from the beta from all of the feedback reverting this back to BF1 TTK.
TheSadRanger
Banned
I mean there's some servers that are pretty good in combating this, they're just few & far between. When you get on a server where no ones cheating you can actually have fun in BF1 and BF4 still. When you get on one where there are it's just so awful.
Even on the BFV beta I ran into it quite a bit.
This sort of thing was all too common in the open beta where I found people just magically "knew" where I was at all times despite Q spotting being removed. I get being found by someone by sheer luck a couple of times, but how I was being found all the time was super oppressive. It becomes super apparent on a map like Rotterdam where a fog rolls in and you literally can't see ten feet in front of you. Yet someone just magically one shots you all the way across the street.
Kagero
Member
I agree. Surprisingly had a lot of fun.
GlassAwful
Member
I think the series is stuck in a rut gameplay wise though the beta features steps in the right direction. Gunplay is better and spot removal is great but the other attempts at team play seemed to fall on their face. The biggest problem is squad spawning turning every encounter into a meat grinder. It's a bullshit mechanic that should only be available if your squad are within a roughly defined frontline held by your overall team. Like planetside 2.
No player should be able to hide in a building having been cornered and then spontaneously multiply in a squad of 5. It's even worse when it happens in open field. Why bother reviving your squadmate if he can just magically pop up beside you if you run and hide? Which is why nobody did it in the beta.. So remove squad spawn, suddenly reviving is more important and the game is less bullshit.
Also bring back commander role and give squads hierarchy that can assign orders to lower squads that give massive point bonus when followed. Boom, teamplay.
No player should be able to hide in a building having been cornered and then spontaneously multiply in a squad of 5. It's even worse when it happens in open field. Why bother reviving your squadmate if he can just magically pop up beside you if you run and hide? Which is why nobody did it in the beta.. So remove squad spawn, suddenly reviving is more important and the game is less bullshit.
Also bring back commander role and give squads hierarchy that can assign orders to lower squads that give massive point bonus when followed. Boom, teamplay.
-MD-
Member
This Battlefield actually switched some things up though, for years they were putting out the same game and as soon as they try to make some actual changes to the formula people say it's a 1.5 rehash, I don't get it.
Is it just a bandwagon thing at this point? Have you guys even tried it?
The free DLC really sealed the deal for me, you have Activision over here putting out half of a game for $60 and people are just in love with them, they couldn't preorder fast enough.
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betrayal
Banned
I played the beta for a short time and it did not change my mind. In general it felt like the previous title to me. It just feels more like a new addon with a patchlog including some changes and not like new and fresh game. It somehow just feels cheap and lazy to me and it will be the first BF i will skip. Instead i will buy the new CoD for the first time after a few years. But i'll admit it more because the new BR mode. Otherwise CoD also feels the same for me every year, just with some new maps and skins.
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EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
". In general it felt like the previous title to me. It just feels more like a new addon with a patchlog including some changes and not like new and fresh game" Well you can argue that about almost any sequel if its just "felt like" or "feels" etc.
As someone that put a few hundred hours in BF1, this feels nothing like BF1. The gunplay feels closer to BF4, more destruction, class changes etc. So if its just "new skins" to you, thats nice.....might as well say that about really any damn sequel. Its just a tired and loose argument. So COD, BF etc feel like just "skins" or addon to you, thats fine...sometimes that makes more sense vs "HERE IS DINOSAUR PLANET, WE KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HATED THAT STUPID SHIP".
Sometimes you need to go with what you know, want something so radically different? Buy a different IP. BF still still be about classes, objectives, large maps etc.
betrayal
Banned
I agree with you. It was just my personal opinion.
I played a lot Bad Company 2 and BF4. I know that the new BF is not a bad game, but right now i can't be bothered playing something samey like BF1 again. The more i think about it, maybe it's also the worn-out WW2 setting, which feels lazy and the same after BF1.
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GenericUser
Member
excactly. What I missed the most was, that it didn't feel like WW2 to me. I expected huge tank battles and other crazy stuff that happend during that conflict. It really just felt like a call of duty on a bigger map. That's not why I like battlefield. They had the chance to show the goods with the open beta, they didn't, case closed. Remember: you could even drive WARSHIPS in Battlefield 1942. Fucking WARSHIPS. Now you are lucky to drive a motorcycle in BF5. Fuck that. If all you do is offer gun on gun combat (mainly) good luck competing against the gun on gun king CoD.
-MD-
Member
You could name almost any other shooter on the market and it has better moment to moment gameplay/gunplay than Call of Duty has ever had. All the guns feel the same, all the fights feel the same, artificial recoil, instead of having the usual TTK of 0.2 seconds now you can pick up some armor and tank 15 bullets, yawn. Adding loot to the same game we've been playing since 2007 isn't exactly exciting.
I will say though, I've never been one to play Battlefield for it's vehicles, just not my thing but the one thing I felt Blackout had going for it were it's vehicles, they all took about 1 second to learn and handled tightly. The fact that a win in PUBG still feels good after 500+ hours and I felt absolutely nothing when we won our rounds in Blackout really said it all to me, the game just isn't very satisfying.
I suspect it'll be like every other Call of Duty where the fans go hard for 2 months and everyone bails for something else.
I have 150hours in BF1 multiplayer and loved it, even more in bf4 multi but the beta for this game was terrible.
Handling of weapons and character feels strange. Even less focus on vehicles and dumbed down vehicles mechanics.
BF1 operations was a great and intense mode, but the new modes in BFV are just boring and slow.
Takes too long to get into combat and spawn times are too slow, low ammo count also takes people out of the fight.
Overall there is just less combat going in the maps due to all the changes making the scope feel smaller which is a bad thing. The improved graphics but the frame rate lags more and looks like a lower resolution too.
Calling the game Battlefield 1.5 is just lazy because the gameplay and flow has a totally different feel.
I wish i was battlefield 1.5 because then it would be a lot more fun.
Handling of weapons and character feels strange. Even less focus on vehicles and dumbed down vehicles mechanics.
BF1 operations was a great and intense mode, but the new modes in BFV are just boring and slow.
Takes too long to get into combat and spawn times are too slow, low ammo count also takes people out of the fight.
Overall there is just less combat going in the maps due to all the changes making the scope feel smaller which is a bad thing. The improved graphics but the frame rate lags more and looks like a lower resolution too.
Calling the game Battlefield 1.5 is just lazy because the gameplay and flow has a totally different feel.
I wish i was battlefield 1.5 because then it would be a lot more fun.
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IbizaPocholo
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https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/news/battlefield-5-assault-class-and-combat-roles
https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/news/battlefield-5-support-class-and-combat-roles
https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/news/battlefield-5-medic-class-and-combat-roles
https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/news/battlefield-5-recon-and-combat-roles
https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/news/battlefield-5-support-class-and-combat-roles
https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/news/battlefield-5-medic-class-and-combat-roles
https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/news/battlefield-5-recon-and-combat-roles
manfestival
Member
You keep saying that it feels the same as BF1... everyone disagrees. The changes are big enough that it is easy to say it is objectively different than BF1. I have about 100 hours in BF1 and this plays different. The only similarities go in the graphic style and very loose generalities. I cant even pretend this feels the same as BF1. There were so many comments I came across that the gunplay felt more like COD than Battlefield. They literally switched everything up as far as gameplay goes. Not sure why people keep touting that it feels the same other than being lazy themselves.
