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BBC: Man arrested holding two firearms at entrance of hotel at Disneyland Paris.
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Shuggananas
Banned
This triggers the Trump
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Good that they caught him before anything bad happened. Props to security.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
No matter what kind of anti-gun laws you enact criminals will always find ways to get them. Glad no one was hurt.
Perfect Blue
Banned
No matter what kind of anti-murder laws you enact criminals will still kill people.
The anti gun laws are for preventing average Joes to pull their guns when they find themselves slightly offended or uncomfortable.
And that works.
Thats how all laws work.
I really dislike this train of thought
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
But is it not true ?
why outlaw stealing or murder or child porn or...? The people who want to do those things will find a way to do them anyway.
Mr. Giggles
Member
Was he not resisting?
weird.
weird.
No it isn't. Because antigun laws are not made for terrorists, are made for unestable people who are good until they aren't.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Strange situation. The dude didn't resist arrest in any way? Huh.
Why do people always say that? Do you think everyone or even a decent amount of people who commit crimes with a gun are some sort of tv criminal determined to commit crimes at any cost? You must not lock the doors to your house or car because you should know no lock is going to stop someone determined to break into your home/car. I wonder if we are too late with any action, we are soon approaching the day where you can print out your own gun at a cheaper price
Mass Effect
Member
I'm glad you know what's best for the people of France.
Sure, but the number of gun crimes will be orders of magnitude less.
Indeed. Let's stop outlawing murder too because fuck it, criminals will still find a way. Rape too, look how many women are still being raped. No shit criminals will break the law, but that doesn't make the law pointless in the first place.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Guys like him think that you declare yourself a "bad guy" and immediately get access to every illegal thing.
outunderthestars
Banned
Laws are a deterrent, not some magical force-field.
Annoying Old Party Man
Member
I don't even want to contemplate on the possibility of a terrorist attack happening in euro Disney. The thought alone is horrible.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Oof, someone I know is going to pissed when hears about this. He had a whole weekend planned with a friend and her daughter.
"Let's make sure we get millions and millions of guns floating around in the general public and hope for the best"
Deaf Spacker
Memb
They've always had X-ray machines there AFAIK but thank god he was caught.
Goldfishking
Member
No, if it was still easy every murder, mugging and crime would involve a gun.
Spunky Monkey
Member
What have they changed? I went a week before the attacks in Paris in November and i had to laugh at the stupidity of their security. From train station to hotel you could either enter through downtown Disney style Disney village and pass through security (more on that in a min) or get straight on a bus to a hotel. There was no security this way or even checks you had a hotel booked. The train station is on a main line so anyone can go to it with he only reasons being Disney or if you somehow lived near by and was being picked up.
The only security is in the Disney village and the only way to he parks is through the Disney village. Here's where it gets stupid. There's a line for just people without bags, no one checks you here. In fact if the staff count is low and you have a bag you can sneak through here. Prams can also go through here without checks. If you have a bag of any size you go into a tent where either someone prods it for a few seconds in the dark tent and doesn't really check the bags contents or it goes through an airport style metal detector.
It was so dumb if you wanted to bring a knife or anything in you just put it on your body and no one would ever know. Or you could potentially sneak past these check points as they only used movable metal barriers to enclose them, no even chest height so easy to get over or go around. Just seemed the most pointless waste of time even bothering to do this. It almost seemed like it just caused hassle as it didn't provide any protection or deterrent in my eyes.
I'm glad this guy got caught, I have no idea how he got caught cos anyone with half a brain would have seen the huge flaws in these check points and worked around them with ease. I'm sure half the time it's just these people being complete idiots than any good system in place that catches these guys out.
It's true for every crime, ever. That people continue to do things that are against the law is not a good reason to not have laws.
He was caught by a security check.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
There's thought on that train? All I see is an illogical derailment.
gutter_trash
Banned
bullshit
the guns in the US are made in the USA sold by US gun manufacturers.
Europe's problem is due of the EU's stupid ass borderless Shengen nonsense can see weapons smuggled from Russia through Eastern Europe towards the West
An update
http://news.yahoo.com/armed-man-disneyland-paris-no-longer-terror-suspect-204457233.html
For those wondering, as stated in a french article (Lexpress.fr), the guy is "european".
http://news.yahoo.com/armed-man-disneyland-paris-no-longer-terror-suspect-204457233.html
For those wondering, as stated in a french article (Lexpress.fr), the guy is "european".
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Holding a Koran? Must be terrorist!
These stupid details skew the media's perspective, and doesn't add anything to the news other than a man was arrested for carrying guns. Sensationalism at best.
These stupid details skew the media's perspective, and doesn't add anything to the news other than a man was arrested for carrying guns. Sensationalism at best.
Charles Brandon
Member
Well ... that and the guns, yeah.
Well, that, and carrying around guns and ammunition at Disneyland in a city where random people rarely carry guns and where last November, 130 people died in a jihadist massacre. I think suspicion is warranted.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Yeah, I clearly understand that. However, everyone has the right to be questioned until proven guilty. This type of sensationalism is the same as "Kids from Columbine were listening to Marilyn Manson" or "School shooter played a lot of Call of Duty" or "Local nut bought a can of gasoline".
Now add this to someone not guilty of crime. "Man speeding was listening to Marilyn Manson, and had a copy of Call of Duty. His trunk had cans of gasoline. African American."
"Upon questioning, he was simply going to a LAN and BBQ party. Phew, what a save!"
These things add nothing to the main news. It's bullshit, and skews the public's image before he gets a chance to prove his innocence. This is a news about a man carrying guns and ammunition near a crowded area. That's where the news should've ended. Everyone trying to figure out the skin of color and religion adds nothing but bullshit.
Charles Brandon
Member
Except he is guilty of a crime isn't he?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
And I hope he rots in jail for it if convicted. However:
Whatever story he is making or not making, I hope they get to the end of it.
Mr. Giggles
Member
The guy is European? Funny how this little fact escaped the original bbc article yet they made sure to highlight the Quran part.
Is he a middle eastern guy migrated to Europe?
This seems like a weirdly planned setup to get caught to spread some sort of non-violent terrorism. You're telling me that he knowingly walked through a security checkpoint with an x-ray machine with a pair of guns and a copy of the Quran?
Sounds like he expected to get caught but this way, he can spread fear without having to die for it.
Sounds like he expected to get caught but this way, he can spread fear without having to die for it.
Sorry guys but it's pretty standard to assume that someone is preparing an attack in Paris ATM when the person in question is carrying not one but two guns and a Quran but the most damning " evidence " is that his partner escaped when he got arrested. What did you want the police to assume ? That the guy was just packing two firearms and liked to read ?
Do you know who own guns in France ? The police, drug dealers and terrorists (hunters and the rest usually own rifles or shotguns, not guns).
The fact that he might be european is irrelevant. As high as 25% of the french citizens joining ISIS are converts, the majority of those converts are white.
Do you know who own guns in France ? The police, drug dealers and terrorists (hunters and the rest usually own rifles or shotguns, not guns).
The fact that he might be european is irrelevant. As high as 25% of the french citizens joining ISIS are converts, the majority of those converts are white.
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