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BBC: PS2 hype "never really materialised".
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boredJonathan
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This will not end well. No way and no how.
I say.... 4 maybe 5 posts till we get old guy from Silent Hill 3.
I say.... 4 maybe 5 posts till we get old guy from Silent Hill 3.
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
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Only SNES can do Toy Story graphics
am i the only one that thinks this is about the whole promise of ps2 changing the entire way we watch movies / listen to music / watch tv / browse the web / play games thing that sony went on about before launch rather than graphics?
Because that's exactly what they are going on about again with the PS3 (cell, networking, streaming music, movies and even game content etc - change the way we network blah blah)
Because that's exactly what they are going on about again with the PS3 (cell, networking, streaming music, movies and even game content etc - change the way we network blah blah)
Aizu_Itsuko
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only gamers can decide if the PS2 has presented a new era of entertainment or not.. I see tons of great games, PS2 is my standard DVD player, for the first time I am listening to 5.1 surround sound for games & movies and my friends play online.
I think all these things have never presented together in one machine before the PS2 has arrived, oh I forgot something, nowadays we see a lot of collaboration between gaming and movies industries.
so yes, PS2 was a new era of entertainment as Ken promised.
though the article has some nice info:
I think all these things have never presented together in one machine before the PS2 has arrived, oh I forgot something, nowadays we see a lot of collaboration between gaming and movies industries.
so yes, PS2 was a new era of entertainment as Ken promised.
though the article has some nice info:
neopokekun
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Grug said:
Deg said:
I would agree with your general point, but I do think it is significant that they did make a point of saying that the PS2 has not lived up to the hype, and I would agree with them on that. You can list as many great PS2 games as you want, but it chang the fact that the machine has not made good on its promises.
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Nathan Barley
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Almost by definition, hype is going to be exaggerated. But I do think the PS2 did step up to the 'emotion engine' thing in a certain way...
Before PS2 the negative side of gaming was generally perceived as 'a waste of time'... oh, the kids should be reading, playing outside etc. But now I think the negative side of gaming is interpreted directly from the content and potential emotional response. Video game violence has become much more real this gen, and conservative beliefs have leapt from thinking games are of no real cultural value, to thinking that they are now so realistic that they might begin to define cultural values.
Before PS2 the negative side of gaming was generally perceived as 'a waste of time'... oh, the kids should be reading, playing outside etc. But now I think the negative side of gaming is interpreted directly from the content and potential emotional response. Video game violence has become much more real this gen, and conservative beliefs have leapt from thinking games are of no real cultural value, to thinking that they are now so realistic that they might begin to define cultural values.
It lived up to (most of) the promises made by Sony, but not the media.
The press blew things way the hell out of proportion and said many things that just weren't true. The fact that the internet wasn't quite as popular also prevented people from seeing the reality of the situation. I never believed any of that and, in fact, slandered the PS2 quite a bit in favor of the DC. Very foolish of me as it is a great machine. I've learned that acting like someone such as, say, Jeffahn is just moronic and pointless. I enjoy all machines and what they offer.
I feel that the PS2 impressed me more often than any of the other current machines simply because it often went above and beyond what I thought was possible at various times. There was a HUGE ramp up in quality over the years as well. Look back at something like Rumble Racing and then take a look at Burnout Revenge. That's a larger upgrade than most XBOX->X360 games have been.
The press blew things way the hell out of proportion and said many things that just weren't true. The fact that the internet wasn't quite as popular also prevented people from seeing the reality of the situation. I never believed any of that and, in fact, slandered the PS2 quite a bit in favor of the DC. Very foolish of me as it is a great machine. I've learned that acting like someone such as, say, Jeffahn is just moronic and pointless. I enjoy all machines and what they offer.
I feel that the PS2 impressed me more often than any of the other current machines simply because it often went above and beyond what I thought was possible at various times. There was a HUGE ramp up in quality over the years as well. Look back at something like Rumble Racing and then take a look at Burnout Revenge. That's a larger upgrade than most XBOX->X360 games have been.
Open Source
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No, PS2 was just another console. The online era (not talking about sega channel) for consoles started on dreamcast, and ps2 online was basically the same as dc (and PC way ahead anyway). PS1 was a console/CD player, so DVD is not a huge leap (and PC was way ahead anyway). PS2 is better-looking than DC, but not by all that much, especially the first couple years (and PC was way ahead anyway). The PS2 didn't change the way I played games or offer me anything I hadn't seen before. The PS1 did. The DC did. The Xbox did. The PC did. So I'd say the PS2 did not live up to the hype, although it is a very solid console with a nice library. Of course, you'd have to be voluntarily stupid to believe what Sony was saying, but that is a manageable hurdle for some.
P90 said:
No emotion nor style, uh?... you should play the game.
As for the "hype" well it depends on your view really but games like Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3, RE4 (its on GC too but still), FFX, Shadow of the Colussuss, GOW, DMC series have completely justified the PS2 hype IMO.
So very false.
The PS2 brought about what I'd call "the era high poly models". PC games were poly starved at that time and relied only on textures. The PS2 was throwing around much more complex games with many more effects at 60 fps. It took the PC some time to catch up...
Play the game. The Silent Hill series is incredibly stylish and features some of the best art direction this gen.
I'm going to bed now, so I guess I'll miss out on the rest of this thread. Ah well...
Late Stage Marxist
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I remember being so hyped for PS2 I almost bought one off the black market when they were sold out. Instead I ended up catching up with most my PlayStation 1 RPG backlog and by the time I was done GameCube was out, so I just went with that.
NEVER FORGET
I would say early adopters of the PS2 got their moneys worth. Just for the sheer number of games you can play on the system. Did it change the way we play games forever? Maybe. Grand Theft Auto was certainly a big step in expanding both the style of games we play and the people who play them. That game brought a lot of non-gamers in.
NEVER FORGET
I would say early adopters of the PS2 got their moneys worth. Just for the sheer number of games you can play on the system. Did it change the way we play games forever? Maybe. Grand Theft Auto was certainly a big step in expanding both the style of games we play and the people who play them. That game brought a lot of non-gamers in.
SolidSnakex
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trippingmartian said:
NEVER FORGET
People do seem to forget that Sony never said that was real time.
Sathsquatch
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Does anyone remember how Trip Hawkins said that the PS2 was as revolutionary as the printing press and would change society in a fundamental way? No matter how bad the PS3 hype gets, it simply can't reach the level of retardation the PS2 hype got to.
BlueTsunami
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Sathsquatch said:
:lol:lol
I didn't have have an internet connection when the PS2 came out, all I had to go by was magazines. With that said, I was in no way affected by any PS2 hype. As a matter of fact, the whole "Toy Story Graphics" and "Games with Emotions" was all brought to my attention really late into the PS2s life. Around the time I was able to a Internet connection at home.
keeblerdrow
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trippingmartian said:
You DO remember what the early days of the PS2 were like, right? I'd say only the early days of the XBox were more barren for quality titles that showed off what the system was capable of. Early adopters are always screwed.
krypt0nian
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As far as the Emotion Engine hype, I'd say Team ICO lived up to it.
Open Source
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We have a critical mass of fanboys. Thread over. And if you think PS2 games ever looked better than PC games of the same time period, you probably don't play PC games (see: quake 3 - about 1 year before PS2 came out).
SolidSnakex
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Open Source said:
Coming from a guy who said PS2 games don't look that much better than DC games.
Doom_Bringer
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Open Source said:
Weren't you working on some killer PS2 engine that could do stuff never done before in any PS2 game? What happened to that?
About the PC argument - there were particular games that looked great on PC and some stuff looked great on PS2. PC stuff looked great cause it was high res. PS2 is a piece of shit technically so I really don't give a shit. Sony got their act together for PSP and PS3 and that's good stuff.
explain pls
Dark Age Iron Savior
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