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BBQ GAF - Smokin' Your Meat, USA Style

ColdPizza

Banned
I have a Weber Performer that has lasted about 9 years so far with the only repair I needed to do was replace a nut in the lid holder. Other than that, I can see this lasting another 10 years atleast. Prior to becoming a Weber fanboy, I bought cheap grills that lasted a year and the next year I was buying a new one. Weber lasts and has parts readily available if you need to do a quick repair/modification.

Yeah, the availability of replacement parts is great.

Besides the 22" kettle, and 18.5" WSM, my 2003 Genesis Silver A is still kicking around. It's in phenomenal shape for a 14 year old grill.
 
So just been to my local store. There was another brand called Outback that almost had me but the vent didn't seem to seal well at all, but was only £100. Other than that was very similar.

They also had the Weber original for £169. But then I saw an eye catcher. They have the Weber premium for only £179!

So honestly it IS more than I'd like to spend on a BBQ however that deal really is tempting me. I'm gonna have to give that some serious thought and see if I can justify it to myself.

Which Weber premium was it?

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Got my free smoker in this morning! Took your guys advice and got the 22",sucker is huge.
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dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
It depends on how much more the asking price. My answer is a resounding "Probably."

With BBQ it's often done when it "feels" done. BBQ is a lot less scientific than most cooking. That said by having the second probe you can at least have an idea of when it's getting close to being done. If you only have one probe in your smoker you can use it and then use an instant read thermometer for your meat.


And yeah as LocknessMobster said I have a thermometer I really love. It will give you a readout like this:
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By having the full graph it's a lot easier to predict where the temperature is heading. And it's also a great way of telling how stable your smoke is and how your skill and setup are.

I have the same thermometer. I have yet to use it yet. I bought it a month ago, set it up and haven't had a cook where I needed it yet. I might have to change that this weekend. I have a brisket flat in the freezer that needs to get on the smoker.
 

Hanzou

Member
When I'm adding coals to my Weber smokey mountain for a long smoke, should I be adding fully lit coals, half lit coals, or unlit coals? Let's say to a low and slow brisket?

You can do either or...if you need to bring up heat right away, do lit. If you're just adding coals and temp is fine but you need to extend the cook, you can do unlit.

I have the medium sized WSM and have always added in coals unlit, usually one or two at a time as it just seems akward to add coals as there is not much room between the bottom of the water pan and the coals. Any tips from anyone to make it easier to add a bunch of coal in a single go?
 

ColdPizza

Banned
I have the medium sized WSM and have always added in coals unlit usually one or two at a time as it just seems akward to add coals as there is ot much room between the bottom of the water pan and the coals. Any tips from anyone to add more coal at a time?

I angle the door downward and just use the it as a ramp to get the coals in the basket, lol
 

Hanzou

Member
I angle the door downward and just use the it as a ramp to get the coals in the basket, lol
Haha I have heard of that before but never tried it as I am afraid of getting the coals stuck between the side of the smoker and the containment ring. Have had coals fall in that little area and they don't end up getting lit. I might try this idea next time though.
 

ColdPizza

Banned
Haha I have heard of that before but never tried it as I am afraid of getting the coals stuck between the side of the smoker and the containment ring. Have had coals fall in that little area and they don't end up getting lit. I might try this idea next time though.

I see what you mean. I've mostly do it with lit coals anyway so I don't mind if they fall outside of the ring, but it would be a pain if they were unlit.

Sounds like we need to make a foolproof coal slide.

Did a quick google....here's what one guy does:

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Keep in mind, with proper care and handling, that bbq will last you 20-30 years.

Very true, It's extremely tempting.

Which Weber premium was it?

The 57cm. If it was the 67cm I'd have probably bought it on the spot since that would be a steal. Still seems to be around £40-50 under rrp here though so certainly not a bad deal. I imagine it's very similar to yours? The one with the self cleaner etc.
 
Very true, It's extremely tempting.



The 57cm. If it was the 67cm I'd have probably bought it on the spot since that would be a steal. Still seems to be around £40-50 under rrp here though so certainly not a bad deal. I imagine it's very similar to yours? The one with the self cleaner etc.

Nice seems that that model is discontinued on the UK site now but yeah its just like the one i have,grab it up now!

Edit this one? http://www.bbqworld.co.uk/weber-bar...al-kettle-premium-57cm-charcoal-bbq-black.asp
 

zbarron

Member
So just been to my local store. There was another brand called Outback that almost had me but the vent didn't seem to seal well at all, but was only £100. Other than that was very similar.

They also had the Weber original for £169. But then I saw an eye catcher. They have the Weber premium for only £179!

So honestly it IS more than I'd like to spend on a BBQ however that deal really is tempting me. I'm gonna have to give that some serious thought and see if I can justify it to myself.
Very nice. That's the grill I have and I love it. Even if you don't buy any smoking attachments like the Slow N Sear you can get great results with the Snake Method. Just google it.

How easy is charcoal to find by you?
Looks good. Is that a Big Green Egg?
 
Nice seems that that model is discontinued on the UK site now but yeah its just like the one i have,grab it up now!

Edit this one? http://www.bbqworld.co.uk/weber-bar...al-kettle-premium-57cm-charcoal-bbq-black.asp

Yeah I was wondering why I couldn't find it on the site. Definitely the one I've got my eyes on. Get a nice big pay next month so probably gonna see if they've got a few knocking around and grab it then if I can. Otherwise just hope it doesn't sell out.

Very nice. That's the grill I have and I love it. Even if you don't buy any smoking attachments like the Slow N Sear you can get great results with the Snake Method. Just google it.

How easy is charcoal to find by you?

Looks good. Is that a Big Green Egg?

Charcoal isn't going to be much of an issue. To be honest finding wood logs was more challenging since most places seem to just have chips but finally found a bit of everything in the area now. Definitely going to check out that snake method.
 

GiJoccin

Member
I have the medium sized WSM and have always added in coals unlit, usually one or two at a time as it just seems akward to add coals as there is not much room between the bottom of the water pan and the coals. Any tips from anyone to make it easier to add a bunch of coal in a single go?

I picked up one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049EYYCS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

it gives me some breathing room under the water bowl in my 18.5" WSM, as i found that sometimes the coals would be suffocated and there wouldn't be great airflow if i put too many coals in (which didn't seem like TOO many, like a chimney and a half)

i have one smoke under my belt after, and the heat seemed to work better after the change, so i'm happy

so, doesn't directly answer your question i guess, but i did find that this allows me to add a larger amount of coals and keep a fire burning for longer
 

ColdPizza

Banned
I picked up one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049EYYCS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

it gives me some breathing room under the water bowl in my 18.5" WSM, as i found that sometimes the coals would be suffocated and there wouldn't be great airflow if i put too many coals in (which didn't seem like TOO many, like a chimney and a half)

i have one smoke under my belt after, and the heat seemed to work better after the change, so i'm happy

so, doesn't directly answer your question i guess, but i did find that this allows me to add a larger amount of coals and keep a fire burning for longer

Yeah, I'm pretty sure those have been discontinued unfortunately.
 

deadlast

Member
Very nice. That's the grill I have and I love it. Even if you don't buy any smoking attachments like the Slow N Sear you can get great results with the Snake Method. Just google it.

How easy is charcoal to find by you?

Looks good. Is that a Big Green Egg?
No. That is a pit boss. It's ceramic and the heaviest thing on earth
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Looks good. Is that a Big Green Egg?

looks like it from the plate setter. Ever egg owner knows that thing, though i usually use it the other way around. If and or when i get an XL egg i wont be buying one.

apparently not an egg but another komodo style cooker.
 
Keep in mind, with proper care and handling, that bbq will last you 20-30 years.

The underside of my Weber kettle lid peeled off. I guess it's just paint but I'm not sure.

How common is that? I had to just go ahead and scrape the rest of it off so it didn't end up on my food.
 

ColdPizza

Banned
Anyone here have a kettle pizza for their kettle? Tempted now.

Just saw a video about this and said the pro was consistently better. Why?
 

zbarron

Member
There are a bunch of articles on the Kettle Pizza on Serious Eats I'd check out. It seems the normal models will only get you slightly better than an oven without modification. You'd be better off with a standalone outdoor pizza oven like the Uuni
 

ColdPizza

Banned
There are a bunch of articles on the Kettle Pizza on Serious Eats I'd check out. It seems the normal models will only get you slightly better than an oven without modification. You'd be better off with a standalone outdoor pizza oven like the Uuni

Man, this might be my new obsession. The Uuni looks tempting. Might wait for the next iteration of it if the rumors about a gas conversion kit are true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGNJbFQIr5g
 

zbarron

Member
Man, this might be my new obsession. The Uuni looks tempting. Might wait for the next iteration of it if the rumors about a gas conversion kit are true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGNJbFQIr5g

This was just posted last month.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2017/05/best-backyard-pizza-ovens-review.html
I'd give it a watch and a look over if you're interested.

I was considering getting a pizza oven for Father's day but got the griddle instead. We have a wood fired pizza restaurant near us that already does a great job, so it's not like I have to make my own to get good wood fired pizza taste. That definitely took away my motivation to get it. Maybe next year. I know I'll always want more cool outdoor cooking stuff.

Edit: Haha. Just clicked your Youtube link. At least here is the article to go with it.
 

ColdPizza

Banned
This was just posted last month.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2017/05/best-backyard-pizza-ovens-review.html
I'd give it a watch and a look over if you're interested.

I was considering getting a pizza oven for Father's day but got the griddle instead. We have a wood fired pizza restaurant near us that already does a great job, so it's not like I have to make my own to get good wood fired pizza taste. That definitely took away my motivation to get it. Maybe next year. I know I'll always want more cool outdoor cooking stuff.

Yeah, it's the same video. =)
 

Applesauce

Boom! Bitch-slapped!
Anyone here have a kettle pizza for their kettle? Tempted now.

Just saw a video about this and said the pro was consistently better. Why?

The pro version has the steel plate that you place over the top of the cooking area. It creates a source of radiant heat as well as diverts the flow of convection heat directly over the top of the pizza you would not get without it, so you get that leopard charring consistent with what you see with a wood fired brick oven. Me and the welder here at work came up with a DIY version using the top of a 55 gallon drum and some junk laying around the yard, works just as well but not as easy on the eyes as the Kettle Pizza. Floor temps get to around 700F and the air temps around 900F-1000F, pizzas are normally cooked in 2 minutes or less.

The big downside to this is that it uses up a lot of charcoal and wood. The Uuni doesn't look like it requires a lot of pellets to get ripping hot. And the Uuni looks cool.
 

otapnam

Member
My friend got a kettle pizza knockoff for an insane deal.

Nonetheless, we used it and it was awesome. Only problem was fuel consumption. U need to have your pies ready to go or you'll be spending alot of fuel to keep temps in range

My brother in law has the uuni but it's kind of small and difficult to use imo. Youre more prone to burns because of how small it is - with a larger oven you have more room for error but you consume more fuel
 

Cyros

Member
Damn. Looking good. Mind sharing the recipe for the Jerk Wings?

Honestly, all I do is buy a bottle of this stuff and I let it sit over night. Never had much success finding good jerk recipes online nor do I want to look hard enough for scotch bonnets. Had a Jamaican teammate in college who put me up on the stuff.

 
Honestly, all I do is buy a bottle of this stuff and I let it sit over night. Never had much success finding good jerk recipes online nor do I want to look hard enough for scotch bonnets. Had a Jamaican teammate in college who put me up on the stuff.

Yep good stuff,I use their marinade for my jerk chicken.
 

zbarron

Member
Honestly, all I do is buy a bottle of this stuff and I let it sit over night. Never had much success finding good jerk recipes online nor do I want to look hard enough for scotch bonnets. Had a Jamaican teammate in college who put me up on the stuff.
Same here. Pimento wood also seems more trouble than its worth. I'll have to pick some up if I can find it locally. Thanks.
 

ColdPizza

Banned
Same here. Pimento wood also seems more trouble than its worth. I'll have to pick some up if I can find it locally. Thanks.

Man, just read up on this. My first instinct was to try to grow your own but apparently it's hard to do outside of the Caribbean. I'd really have to travel to Jamaica and try real jerk to see if it's even worth the effort to import.
 

Cyros

Member
Same here. Pimento wood also seems more trouble than its worth. I'll have to pick some up if I can find it locally. Thanks.

Man, just read up on this. My first instinct was to try to grow your own but apparently it's hard to do outside of the Caribbean. I'd really have to travel to Jamaica and try real jerk to see if it's even worth the effort to import.

If you want to pay extra here are a couple of sites that sell pimento wood:

https://www.pimentowood.com/

http://pimentowoodproducts.com/

I just use hickory.
 
Got this from my sister for christmas,really tasty stuff. Its normally used for cheese and crackers plates but I wanna try n cook with it,any ideas?
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ag-my001

Member
Got this from my sister for christmas,really tasty stuff. Its normally used for cheese and crackers plates but I wanna try n cook with it,any ideas?
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Glaze for a sausage roll/fatty? Might need to check the sugar content to make sure it won't burn too quickly.
 

ColdPizza

Banned
Got this from my sister for christmas,really tasty stuff. Its normally used for cheese and crackers plates but I wanna try n cook with it,any ideas?
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[IMG]http://www.hickoryfarms.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-Web-Master-Catalog/default/dw6cedbe38/images/products/Hickory-Farms-Simply-Hot-Pepper-Bacon-Jam-2-Pack-003713.jpg[/IMG]

Glaze, as previously mentioned, or you could easily incorporate that into a homemade bbq sauce.
 

J-Roderton

Member
Threw down some BBQ drumsticks and thighs last week. Turned out awesome. Probably going for a rack of ribs this weekend. Only problem is my grill isn't too big. May have to improvise.

Anyone have experience smoking on a gas grill? I've seen a lot of youtube videos on it but have yet to try it. Just been doing the indirect heat thing so far.
 

ColdPizza

Banned
Threw down some BBQ drumsticks and thighs last week. Turned out awesome. Probably going for a rack of ribs this weekend. Only problem is my grill isn't too big. May have to improvise.

Anyone have experience smoking on a gas grill? I've seen a lot of youtube videos on it but have yet to try it. Just been doing the indirect heat thing so far.

Just cut the rack in half if it won't fit.

I've said this before and I occasionally get crap for it, but smoking on a gas grill is an underwhelming and almost futile experience. You won't get the true flavor of wood/charcoal and you'll just be wasting a ton of propane.

Though, a part of me recommends you try it so you can see what I mean. And if you still have the itch for BBQ, then maybe you'll make the leap to a non-gas smoker.
 

J-Roderton

Member
Just cut the rack in half if it won't fit.

I've said this before and I occasionally get crap for it, but smoking on a gas grill is an underwhelming and almost futile experience. You won't get the true flavor of wood/charcoal and you'll just be wasting a ton of propane.

Though, a part of me recommends you try it so you can see what I mean. And if you still have the itch for BBQ, then maybe you'll make the leap to a non-gas smoker.

Yeah eventually I will. But townhouse living with space and all doesn't really allow it. I think I will give it a try though sometime in the next week on the gas grill, though. Going into it I figured it would be nowhere the same as a real smoker but any little more smoke flavor is better than none I suppose.
 

Applesauce

Boom! Bitch-slapped!
Yeah eventually I will. But townhouse living with space and all doesn't really allow it. I think I will give it a try though sometime in the next week on the gas grill, though. Going into it I figured it would be nowhere the same as a real smoker but any little more smoke flavor is better than none I suppose.

You can get a vertical smoker that uses propane and wood chips as a heat source. They don't take up a lot of space either. Some are fairly cheap.
 
I finally brined that Turkey. I did it for like 2.5 days, but I didn't do anything overly fancy and strong, so it just help keep it nice and moist. I used two different spices lockness sent me, sweet & spicy and spicy apple.

So this is about half way through the cook. I turned it around to make sure the side closest to the heat wouldn't burn to a crisp. I also tucked a couple piece of foil on the side to ensure it didn't burn.

My finished bird. I like it get to 155 in the breast, and I think it was close to 170 in the thigh.

And this was after a rest and cutting off a few pieces. The bird was so moist and tasted amazing.
 
I believe it took about 6 hrs and cooked around 275. The last hour I added more coals to bump the temp to about 325 to finish it off. I started it in the afternoon, and didn't get done till almost midnight.
 
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