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Before David Lynch's 'Dune", there was Alejandro Jodorowsky's...
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Barkley's Justice
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I saw Lynch's Dune first and then read the book after. Have to say...ain't mad??
I used Lynch's Dune as a visual reference within my imagination and I enjoyed being able to pronounce words like "gom jabbar" and "kwisatz haderach" after hearing them in the movie while reading them in the novels.
Lynch's Dune catches a lot of flack. But even after reading 4 of the Dune novels, I still enjoy the movie. It's visually amazing. And the soundtrack is dope. The actors all give great performances. I get upset when people point to the Sci-Fi channel "movies" as better versions of Dune. They're not. They're longer and admittedly closer to the novel in narrative. But they're straight garbage on an artistic level.
I used Lynch's Dune as a visual reference within my imagination and I enjoyed being able to pronounce words like "gom jabbar" and "kwisatz haderach" after hearing them in the movie while reading them in the novels.
Lynch's Dune catches a lot of flack. But even after reading 4 of the Dune novels, I still enjoy the movie. It's visually amazing. And the soundtrack is dope. The actors all give great performances. I get upset when people point to the Sci-Fi channel "movies" as better versions of Dune. They're not. They're longer and admittedly closer to the novel in narrative. But they're straight garbage on an artistic level.
Giant Robot
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one of the most awesome opening shots to a movie (The Holy Mountain).
Alx
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After the project failed, he and Jodorowsky used elements of the story board and character designs to create the incal comics saga. I remember there were samples from the original story board in some versions of the book, but I couldn't find any picture of them online.
And those seem to be some of the original designs from Moebius for Dune :
More here.
I saw Lynch's Dune when it came out (I thought it was crazy that we given a handout with all the Dune terms and lingo when going into the theater), and I loved it then and still love it now. That said, Jodorowsky's version would have been amazing as well. Looking forward to this documentary.
It would have been the the most pleasurable film failure to sit through bar none.
The Artful Dodger
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The David Lynch movie is nothing like the books. It's a campy mess.The mini-series is far more faithful, though admittedly it is rather slow. The book feels faster, and more exciting.
Honestly, you should just read the book. It's very good.
The Westwood RTS game, Emperor: Battle for Dune, managed to walk a nice line. It took a lot of cues from the David Lynch movie without being marred by them.
I watched The Holy Mountain while tripping. You're right about the scarring part. Life has never looked the same
Bob Coffee
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I honestly liked the lynch film, my only beef is how the potrayed the weriding way which was supposed to be some crazy martial art instead of werid sound weapons. Casting was also great patrick stewert made a fucking great gurney hallack.
Because he's a great director. And contrary to common belief, Jodorowsky was never into drugs.
Btw: once he knew he lost the project and Lynch got it, Jodorowsky became depressed. At the premiere he was almost dying in his seat, but as the movie began and rolled he started to calm down and smile and in the end he was told to be laughing because how bad the movie was. Total catharsis!
Jodorowsky is the king of sci-fi writing. Dune must be the biggest lost opportunity ever...
Sci-fi is at its best around "weird shit".
There are a lot of sci-fi books that would fit these kind of ideas better IMO. Dune was about politics and more closer to fantasy.
Don't forget it's also about how to raise sandworms as your pet.
Secret Fawful
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My friends and I have a long-running gag about Orson Welles and food, so this topic had me rolling for a bit.
Deified Data
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Fuck it, I loved Lynch's Dune. Movie was amusing.
Battlefield Earth is both disgusting and bizarre, often in the most extreme ways possible.
I also loved it.
Also came in to say this.
Would have loved to see Jodorowsky's Dune though, all this sounds amazing.
And Pink Floyd and the goddamn Dali.
This is probably the best movie that was never made. So much talent in one single place. The saddest thing was how poor Lynch's Dune turned out to be, and the fact that looking at the size of the script, this could have easily turned out into the greatest TV series ever.
You really ought to read the Caste of the Metabarons. When Jodorowsky is focused into making his audience feel one very precise feeling or message rather than an unfocused ambiguous sensation or rambles, he can be pretty darn awesome.
You really ought to read the Caste of the Metabarons. When Jodorowsky is focused into making his audience feel one very precise feeling or message rather than an unfocused ambiguous sensation or rambles, he can be pretty darn awesome.
deadhorse32
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Santa Sangre is Jodorowsky at his most accessible. Wonderful film, one of my all-time favourites.
Funny thing about all the concept work on Dune was that even as late as Prometheus you could still see bits filtering in to the Alien design philosophy. The silos in Prometheus bear a distinct resemblance to Giger's Harkonnen castle.
The only disappointing thing for me is that Chris Foss's work never got to be depicted cinematically in either Dune or Alien (where his work kind of got replaced by Ron Cobb's stuff), as he was/is truly a fantastic artist.
Funny thing about all the concept work on Dune was that even as late as Prometheus you could still see bits filtering in to the Alien design philosophy. The silos in Prometheus bear a distinct resemblance to Giger's Harkonnen castle.
The only disappointing thing for me is that Chris Foss's work never got to be depicted cinematically in either Dune or Alien (where his work kind of got replaced by Ron Cobb's stuff), as he was/is truly a fantastic artist.
Expendable.
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I've seen it. It's very good, makes you sincerely wish what could have been. Here's our Cannes review. We even got to talk with Jodorowsky himself -- he's awesome.
EDIT: /\/\/\ Very cool. Thanks for that.
Lynch didn't have the kind of full control over Dune that he did for his later films; it's unfair to pin the blame solely on him or even to call the theatrical release a 'Lynch film'. In fact, one or more of the cuts of the film has an Alan Smithee credit for director. He refuses to talk about it anymore, but it's quite well known how unhappy he was with how the production went and that there were 'too many cooks'. Anyway, I saw a fan-edited version of Dune which included a lot of the cut scenes and fixed the pacing - it was a definite improvement.
Lynch didn't have the kind of full control over Dune that he did for his later films; it's unfair to pin the blame solely on him or even to call the theatrical release a 'Lynch film'. In fact, one or more of the cuts of the film has an Alan Smithee credit for director. He refuses to talk about it anymore, but it's quite well known how unhappy he was with how the production went and that there were 'too many cooks'. Anyway, I saw a fan-edited version of Dune which included a lot of the cut scenes and fixed the pacing - it was a definite improvement.
CyclopsRock
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I think I was the only person in the world not that impressed with Dune. I really had to force myself through it.
There is stuff about this on youtube since long time. It is very fascinating , mostly because of talent that was involved. But i cannot imagine it being a good movie, or even better than David Lynch`s version. If go by Jodorowsky`s filmography, i think it would have been one beautiful artsy pretentious mess.
I've seen the documentary now and what a fascinating story it was. And such a shame that this movie never came to be, all though the world of scifi movies might be radically different if this movie actually came out. This is also worth seeing just to witness Jodorowsky's personality, what a charming man.
OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather
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Probably would be a good thing. Scifi film is generally pretty bland and boring, unfortunately.
forknknife
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Fucking awesome news, I didn't know!
Jodorowsky is one of my favorite directors as you might guess by my avatar
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Some Moebius concept art for the film
AlimNassor
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Its like a JJBA Movie, did Araki do those designs?
Apparently Moebius's widow won't allow the film to be shown in France (some copyright mess about his storyboard), which sucks immensely. Not sure about the rest of the world.
forknknife
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Wow, cool, they're playing it in Amsterdam in the 16 th of april at the eye museum!
Wow, cool, they're playing it in Amsterdam in the 16 th of april at the eye museum!
Well now I'm jealous. (Awesome!)
Macmanus
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I think it's because their is the weird emphasis on visual fx which in turn pushes budgets higher and forces less risk.
Bit of a bummer.
So the documentary released on the 21st
http://www.fandango.com/jodorowskysdune_167574/movieoverview
Obviously it isn't playing anywhere around me since no one in South Florida has any sort of taste in film >=(
http://www.fandango.com/jodorowskysdune_167574/movieoverview
Obviously it isn't playing anywhere around me since no one in South Florida has any sort of taste in film >=(
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Looks like Miami Beach has to wait till 4/11.
dr3upmushroom
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I've been wondering about this movie forever! Saw it as a kid on showtime and it freaked me out, haha.
Wait nvm, the photo reminded me of some other film with these weird floating metal orbs that attacked people.
Wait nvm, the photo reminded me of some other film with these weird floating metal orbs that attacked people.
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