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[Odoul]

Also, I've never heard of Doro, but if he's a bodyless and formless demon, how do you know he's black?

He was born in a Nubian(I think) village constantly raided/pillaged by Egypt.

He was a sickly child.

He died in either an Egyptian raid or disease (been at least 12 years since I've read it).

He dies in his mothers arms, possesses/eats her, panics dies again, "faints", and wakes up 50 years later in an Egyptian prison.

Through his machinations over thousands of years he creates lineages of human beings with supernatural powers. They "taste" better to possess.

The book I read takes place in the Africa/North America during slavery times. The story is also a prequel. The original story he's introduced in I believe takes place hundreds of years into our future.

Octavia Butler came up with some WIIIIIIIIILD shit.

 

[Rastafarian42]

Wow at some of the list OP some are good but others are just plain awful Falcon & Stringer Bell for worst of their respective lists :scust:.

 

[Dahbomb]

Stringer Bell in worst black villains?

The fuck outta here son.


Also Denzel Washington from Training Day as best villain not on that list is a travesty. Also Denzel Washington from American Gangster.

 

[sooperkool]

No Luke Cage? He easily has gone from one list to the other in his history.

 

[junglist]

you can't forget about War Machine

Sheeva Alomar RE:5

Shadow Man.... one of my favorite n64 games

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

John Stewart (DCAU)

Just has too little personality.

Black Panther (various cartoon versions)

Stoic and arrogant isn't very entertaining.

finally someone speaking truth. in John's defense he's an OK character but not in the spotlight.

 

[Kitschkraft]

You put Green Lantern for no personality but Blade gets a free pass? if you were dull and had no personality you'd make a shitty green lantern since your ring runs off of your willpower and imagination.

And what, Storm, Static, Miles, and Cyborg mean nothing?

Also, I've never heard of Doro, but if he's a bodyless and formless demon, how do you know he's black?

He was born in a Nubian(I think) village constantly raided/pillaged by Egypt.

He was a sickly child.

He died in either an Egyptian raid or disease (been at least 12 years since I've read it).

He dies in his mothers arms, possesses/eats her, panics dies again, "faints", and wakes up 50 years later in an Egyptian prison.

Through his machinations over thousands of years he creates lineages of human beings with supernatural powers. They "taste" better to possess.

The book I read takes place in the Africa/North America during slavery times. The story is also a prequel. The original story he's introduced in I believe takes place hundreds of years into our future.

Octavia Butler came up with some WIIIIIIIIILD shit.

To be fair, in "Mind Of My Mind", Doro does in fact stated that he is "neither black white or Asian"..."Because I am not human".

But he tells his daughter that if she prefers to believe he is black, he can do so if it makes her feel better.

At the end of the book,

Spoiler

when he comes back to have their final telepathic fight, he shows up as someone she's never seen before...and she realizes that he "took" her fathers body, killing him in the process.

Great, wicked character.

 

[Jigorath]

Woah woah woah. Stringer Bell is amazing.

 

[XAL]

I disagree completely with almost that entire list.

Dafuchs

 

[Jeffolation]

Not a good flick but I thought Michael Clarke Duncan made an awesome Kingpin.

 

[Slayven]

finally someone speaking truth. in John's defense he's an OK character but not in the spotlight.

He was great in Mosaic and Darkstars

 

[Leflus]

Lee Everett in Telltale's The Walking Dead. Great character.

 

[Chuckie]

Stringer Bell

Nigga Turtles

This is a thing?

Lee Everett in Telltale's The Walking Dead. Great character.

Also Clementine!

 

[Forceatowulf]

This is a thing?

Bruv.. It's the BEST of things!

 

[blame space]

morpheus rules

 

[Eidan]

This is such a shit list. Stringer as one of the worst villains...it's like it's written by this strange contingent of Wire fans who act like the characters are real people who they do or do not have beef with.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Absolutely terrible list.

 

[Bishop89]

worst

best

ok

 

[ReiGun]

Black Panther, Black Manta, and John Stewart in the worst category? Bruh, I don't like John either but come on. And the first two are just ridiculous.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

What a shitty list. A bunch of great characters were put in the worst section.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Cyborg is an amazing hero. I am glad he got a lot of focus in the the last 4 JL movies.

 

[Odoul]

Some shameful omissions on my part and I apologize.

A couple of GREAT villains.

Simon Adebisi - Oz

So unpredictable and random.

Sgt. Waters - Soldiers Story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMk_16hT8Tk
Great misguided zealot villain.
Not without a point either.
My dad spoke about this role years before I actually saw it. He described him almost as a good guy.


Hero

I genuinely don't know whether this is one of the best or the worst.

Cole - Gear of War

One one hand he (and Baird) have probably the most distinct peronalities in the series. He's fun and memorable.

On the other, he is a GIGANTIC WALKING STEREOTYPE!

Just call "memorable" and leave it at that?

 

[RP912]

Best Hero

Best Villain

 

[sdijoseph]

WORST

John Stewart

BLASPHEMY, his banter with Flash on the Justice League cartoon was one of the best things about it.

 

[Odoul]

It's been a while, but some new candidates have revealed themselves.



GOAT

I don't want to spoil too bad. But in just 30 seconds Lawrence made the black character Hall of Fame.

He might just be Tarantino's best use of Samuel L Jackson.

WOAT

The more I think on him the more pissed I get. At least Rey was just boring. Finn was a complete buffoon. I don't get how Jar Jar was shit on and this gets a pass. They need to seriously just reboot his character for 8, or I don't even want him in it.

 

[PSqueak]

You hating on Finn? Come on! Finn was my fave character because he was the character the audience could relate to, but he wasn't a whinny child like Luke was on the original Trilogy, you could empathize a lot with Finn and he was the sort of character you'd want to have a beer with.

 

[Lulubop]

Pucci is a dope villain with a dope design

 

[Kelsdesu]

BEST



Runner-up

WORST

 

[Count Dookkake]

Mr. Simms, the mortician, in Tales from the Hood.

But is he the hero or the villain

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

I don't get the Finn backlash. Yeah, he's not a Jedi but he was still the best new character in TFA.

 

[Teletraan1]

This list is garbage. Stringer Bell and Ruby Rhod are not the worst of anything.

 

[Barrage]

Stringer Bell? Nuh.

 

[shingi70]

I loved Finn, for me was pretty relatable and his quirks are aren't that bad. Plus when it counts his great soldier. I do hate him being the garbage man, especially when one of the books said he was top of his class, and you sort of half to be to ride with Kylo and Phasma.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Might as well add

Most badass black antihero: Garcian Smith (Killer 7)

If you know nothing else about Killer 7, at least watch this video of a game of russian roulette

Most badass black weeaboo: Shinobu (No More Heroes 1/2)

Bless Suda 51

 

[Odoul]

Mr. Simms, the mortician, in Tales from the Hood.

But is he the hero or the villain

He got the shit and that's all that matters.

Crazy K was the best story.

Or the dolls.

Pretty much all of them past the cop story were great.

I miss horror anthologies.

 

[Not]

Woww this is so bad tho

I can give you about 100,452 worse black characters than Finn, and they were all created before 1960.

 

[AndersK]

This list has done the impossible: DC and Marvel stans united!

 

[Rastafarian42]

I don't get the Finn backlash. Yeah, he's not a Jedi but he was still the best new character in TFA.

A big part was the misdirection in the marketing having him plastered with the saber which lead a lot of people on. Plus he has no cool "Wins" in the movie he just ends up getting served the whole movie. Hopefully hes more badass in the new one.

 

[shoreu]

John Stuart and Black Manta in the worst category..... did slayven make this thread


Hell even that can't be true because Black panther is in the worst.

 

[LionPride]

I mean, fuck John Stewart so that's fine

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

A big part was the misdirection in the marketing having him plastered with the saber which lead a lot of people on. Plus he has no cool "Wins" in the movie he just ends up getting served the whole movie. Hopefully hes more badass in the new one.

I understand that and I was worried a little bit when he ended up in a coma, I hope he gets his share of screentime in VIII. But marketing aside, he felt like the first real human being to ever appear in a Star Wars movie imo. I really liked the way John Boyega portrayed him.

 

[BorkBork]

I liked Chiwetel Ejiofor's Operative in Serenity as a villain.

 

[Parallax]

BEST



Runner-up

WORST

Panthro had the best themes in thundercats. His, and the upbeat remix for the thundertank

Not feeling the mantis slander though

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

Two year-old thread, but I have to post when I saw Doro get acknowledged. My favorite villain in any form of media and I my favorite book ever! Anyanwu should deserve props as well.

John Stewart and Black Panther being in worst is some bullshit.
John was one of my favorite things about the Justice League cartoon.

 

[LionPride]

It's been a while, but some new candidates have revealed themselves.



GOAT



WOAT

#Lawrencewasright

Folks need to hop off of Finn, he is fine as a character, marketing just got people's hopes up but he gon do shit

I ain't worried

 

[Rastafarian42]

I understand that and I was worried a little bit when he ended up in a coma, I hope he gets his share of screentime in VIII. But marketing aside, he felt like the first real human being to ever appear in a Star Wars movie imo. I really liked the way John Boyega portrayed him.

Yeah I liked Finn tbh and I liked his arc if there was one thing I'd change I'd have him beat the trooper with the electric baton. I wouldn't be surprised if had more badass scene me in Last Jedi.

 

[Desparadina]

This list trash...but hearing slander about Finn is the worst like? TFA would have been nothing without his actions.

 

[Htown]

Finn was also the most likable character in a movie full of likable characters, which is an achievement all on its own.

Also I just realized nobody mentioned the best Star Trek captain, Benjamin "The" Sisko in here.

 

[Odoul]

A big part was the misdirection in the marketing having him plastered with the saber which lead a lot of people on. Plus he has no cool "Wins" in the movie he just ends up getting served the whole movie. Hopefully hes more badass in the new one.

You know while I didn't care for him, this is true. I even noticed something was off about him back when I first watched it.

It's almost like he's from a different franchise or genre dropped in Star Wars. Like when Han was winking and he wasn't getting it. It was weird.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

*sees bump*

#LawrenceHive checking in!