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Ben Affleck ‘dropped’ from DC Universe as ‘search for new Batman starts’
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J-Roderton
Member
Bummer. Rumors have been going around forever. Guess we know now. Ben was an awesome Batman.
supermassiveblackhole
Member
Both Cavil and Affleck are gone.
Will they do a quick reboot or pretend like it didn't happen for the next few years and try again?
Will they do a quick reboot or pretend like it didn't happen for the next few years and try again?
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Akuza89
Member
I'll be honest here, I wasn't a fan at the announcement of him... but when I saw him in action in BVS and then justice league he got better... he doesn't hold a candle to Adam west for me
but then again who does!
Secret_Lover
Member
I feel like its not really a big deal. Bruce Wayne to me is such a nothing role that anybody could play, all you have to do is frown a lot and people will go "wow just like the comics". Shouldn´t be too hard to find the next guy who wants to add "I´m batman" to their resume.
Superman and Batman are gone, and their counterparts Lex and Joker are absolutely pathetic in this universe. Cyborg looks like MS paint, Flash has been delayed, and the general reception around this whole franchise has been less than stellar. If they manage to reset the whole damn thing and get rid of all that baggage then this is probably good news, but knowing WB I´m sure they´ll find some way to fuck it up in a hilarious display of ineptitude. I can´t think of a reason why they wouldn´t just go for the old page one rewrite.
Also, Affleck was garbage in Justice League but then again who wasn´t.
Superman and Batman are gone, and their counterparts Lex and Joker are absolutely pathetic in this universe. Cyborg looks like MS paint, Flash has been delayed, and the general reception around this whole franchise has been less than stellar. If they manage to reset the whole damn thing and get rid of all that baggage then this is probably good news, but knowing WB I´m sure they´ll find some way to fuck it up in a hilarious display of ineptitude. I can´t think of a reason why they wouldn´t just go for the old page one rewrite.
Also, Affleck was garbage in Justice League but then again who wasn´t.
ruvikx
Banned
Yep. I enjoyed Affleck as Batman & he got a bad rep solely because the writing was not top-notch in some cases in these movies (especial Justice League which reached all sorts of lows). Christian Bale was lucky to be in Nolan's movies because if the roles were reversed, it would be Affleck who'd be considered the 'ultimate' Bat.
As for the DCU, I believe a huge "lol" is the only response necessary. Suicide Squad was the moment the whole universe suicided itself, IMO. You just can't release such a huge pile of awfulness & expect it to work within an expanded universe like Marvel's.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Quite indicative of DC's movie division being completely fucking useless, seeing as these two were some of the only good aspects of their failed attempt at a DCEU. They really do need to just scrap everything and start again in a few years when people's attention isn't on the end of Marvel's initial ten year run. Superhero fatigue is going to start setting in after IW2.
West, Clooney and Kilmer say hello.
West, Clooney and Kilmer say hello.
MayauMiao
Member
He had the potential to be a great Batman if it wasn't for the bad writing.
The warehouse fight alone should tell you that.
KOMANI
KOMANI
If they were smart they would do KingdomCome (albeit a movie version if it) with Jon Hamm as Superman, maybe Josh Brolin as Batman (as he was up for the part but they chose Afleck instead) and keep Gadot since WW is ageless.
Actually, it’s not the “smart” move, I just want Hamm as Superman/Clark Kent.
Then they can do their one-offs, like a Calvin Ellis superman movie and a Dick Grayson Batman movie...
I’m crazy.
Actually, it’s not the “smart” move, I just want Hamm as Superman/Clark Kent.
Then they can do their one-offs, like a Calvin Ellis superman movie and a Dick Grayson Batman movie...
I’m crazy.
Secret_Lover
Member
I don´t know if West really qualifies in that debate since the character was something completely different back then. Honestly, I don´t know if I could even rate Clooney and Kilmer considering how lame their movies were. There isn´t a soul on the planet who could´ve looked good with that script and direction, the same way no Batman actor could have turned JL into a good movie.
I liked the warehouse fight but I don´t see how its quality has anything to do with Affleck. Its a scene where a stuntman does some action moves, again could´ve literally been anybody and the scene would have been the same. I agree that his potential was limited by shitty writing, but that seems to be the case for basically anyone playing batman.
TheShadowLord
Member
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Actually, I'll give you that. I just think Wayne could be far more nuanced than we've seen so far. I still think Justin Theroux would make a fantastic Bruce Wayne.
VulcanRaven
Member
Affleck was ok but I'm not sad. I really wish Henry Cavill would still be Superman. They just need to hire a good director to make the next Superman movie.
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888
Member
Time to reboot with Flashpoint. Get it done DC. Current movies are pretty bad. New Shazam and Aquaman movie look like a step in the right direction but geez. Now we have 2 jokers, No batman and Superman. Flash movie that got delayed. Wonder Woman was a fluke and even then, it wasn't that great of a movie.
J-Roderton
Member
Yeah Flashpoint or Kingdom Come please.
KOMANI
KOMANI
I think it’s the wrong role for him. He would be such a great Kent. He’s so funny and charismatic. I feel as we’ve seen his Wayne on Mad Men.
Wag
Member
Affleck was fine, just had bad material to work off of. The whole DCEU wreaks of failure, I can understand why he'd want no part of it.
Probably be a lot of "one offs" for the foreseeable future. I'd still love to see a Booster Gold movie, but I guess that's too much to ask.
Probably be a lot of "one offs" for the foreseeable future. I'd still love to see a Booster Gold movie, but I guess that's too much to ask.
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michaelius
Banned
He was good Batman but just like with James Bond after few movies you have to replace actor since he get's older at much faster rate than his hero.
Wag
Member
The whole point was that he was supposed to be an "older" Batman. I say they should have just kept Bale going, but of course the poor writing wouldn't have helped.
highrider
Banned
Yeah, and the crazy thing is it’s not some nebulous thing wrong with the films, the criticism was almost identical across the board. I guess they just figure it’s guilt by association lol.
Kadayi
Banned
I'd second that. After the stellar work he did on The Leftovers I'd love to see JT get a proper lead role in something. He's always playing second fiddle to people in films/shows since. But I could definitely see him doing BW/BM, dude can do dark pretty convincingly (Girl on a train). Plus the dude is carved out of wood.
With all that said I like Affleck as Batman.
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#Phonepunk#
Banned
what a weird Batman. Affleck was probably good casting but terrible material. the Batman of BvS was my least favorite one. just this overly violent fascist who brands people (apparently Batman and prison murderers both have an understanding?) and jokes that his super power is "being rich".
he was also a complete idiot for being the world's smartest detective. he is obsessed with Superman for months and months and somehow never learns that he had a human family and parents. detective much? he didn't figure out about the bullets in the middle east, making Lois a better detective. he also didn't figure out Lex's congress bomb, despite again, being obsessed with Superman and everything he does. you would think Batman would be interested in the time Superman goes to congress, but i guess not. Batman also let himself get trolled with fake letters.
some may say this is his character now, he's at a low point. i can buy that but still. i guess Batman is just a dumb idiot who gets tricked into killing people. great. give me Clooney sliding down a dinosaur's back any day.
so messed up that we only got 3 movies with Batman in it and in one of them he just shows up for 2 minutes and punches a woman in the face.
he was also a complete idiot for being the world's smartest detective. he is obsessed with Superman for months and months and somehow never learns that he had a human family and parents. detective much? he didn't figure out about the bullets in the middle east, making Lois a better detective. he also didn't figure out Lex's congress bomb, despite again, being obsessed with Superman and everything he does. you would think Batman would be interested in the time Superman goes to congress, but i guess not. Batman also let himself get trolled with fake letters.
some may say this is his character now, he's at a low point. i can buy that but still. i guess Batman is just a dumb idiot who gets tricked into killing people. great. give me Clooney sliding down a dinosaur's back any day.
so messed up that we only got 3 movies with Batman in it and in one of them he just shows up for 2 minutes and punches a woman in the face.
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bitbydeath
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
I'd rather have more Fat Val Kilmer roles.
JimiNutz
Banned
I thought he was a decent Batman is bad movies so it's a shame he didn't get the opportunity to star in a decent film as Barman.
As for the DCEU, Superman and Batman are the two biggest characters. If they are recasting both roles then surely they have to reboot now or do they intend to keep everyone else and just recast?
Recasting smaller roles isn't ideal but is perfectly possible but how can you realistically recast your two biggest roles and then try to carry on?
As for the DCEU, Superman and Batman are the two biggest characters. If they are recasting both roles then surely they have to reboot now or do they intend to keep everyone else and just recast?
Recasting smaller roles isn't ideal but is perfectly possible but how can you realistically recast your two biggest roles and then try to carry on?
Gander
Banned
I'll be your huckleberry. Have you seen Argo? Just recently discussed I think Paycheck is underrated.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
Writing was on the wall, Bale 3 Batman movies, and almost every other Bat since 1980 has only had one film.
Catphish
Member
I laughed heartily.
LordPezix
Member
I laughed heartily.
I do what I can.
highrider
Banned
I actually liked The Accountant * runs *
quickwhips
Member
Let’s act like the actors were the problem in not the scripts. I think they shouldn’t try to build this universe and focus on cool movie one shots.
Coolio McAwesome
Member
Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill played their roles exactly as they were written. It's too bad they had garbage scripts to work with. There is no saving the DC cinematic universe at this point. They're best play would be to pump the brakes and try again in five years or so. As much as I like Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman, the entire universe needs a hard reset.
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Deleted member 738976
Unconfirmed Member
Reboot is the only option for them. Anything to remove robo voice filter Batman.
Akuza89
Member
Hey no need to run! The accountant was pretty fun to watch, sure it had issues, but still a decent film.
TheShadowLord
Member
or batman beyond. But I would like Keaton back to play as Bruce