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[KyoZz]

Let’s hope Alan Horn returning might help right the ship a bit

I'm sure he will

The cult actually think this is a sign Batfleck is returning properly.

We (the cult) don't think that. We are just very surprised (and fuckin happy) to see Affleck don the suit again. Also if the post credit scene for The Flash is true, your comment is not gonna age well.

that replaces the other, more popular Batman

It's embarrassing at this point, Keaton is 3rd in every poll and Bale close second. As it should be:

18K, 77k, 20k votes etc... and always the same result.

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm sure he will

We (the cult) don't think that. We are just very surprised (and fuckin happy) to see Affleck don the suit again. Also if the post credit scene for The Flash is true, your comment is not gonna age well.

It's embarrassing at this point, Keaton is 3rd in every poll and Bale close second. As it should be:

18K, 77k, 20k votes etc... and always the same result.

Dude.

Twitter.

Keaton’s Batman was in a hugely successful, highest grossing movie franchise. As was Bale’s. Affleck’s… wasn’t.

Social media is not the real world.

And what’s the Flash post credits? Are you saying it ends with Affleck reconfirmed as Batman going forward?

 

[SJRB]

WB/DC seeing some random tweet with Ben Affleck's picture getting 1000 times more traction than their entire Comic Con show

 

[KyoZz]

Keaton’s Batman was in a hugely successful, highest grossing movie franchise. As was Bale’s. Affleck’s… wasn’t.

Social media is not the real world.

I'm just tired of people stating their opinion as fact, it was just to demonstrate that what you think is not necessary the truth.

And what’s the Flash post credits? Are you saying it ends with Affleck reconfirmed as Batman going forward?

Major spoiler:

Spoiler: Post credit scene of The Flash

Apparently when Barry returns to the present, Keaton is the main Batman BUT Barry get a call on his computer and it's actually Batfleck, asking for help as Barry messed up the timeline and sent him in another universe (which could be the Knightmare timeline).
And ZSJL is canon, not JL 2017. Confirmed again by today's leak since there has been another screening recently

Full report:
Here's the last report of the post-credit sequence that I've seen u/ViewerAnon corroborate from a larger leak:

The Post-Credits scene starts with Barry helping out a drunk Aquaman out of a bar.
Jason Momoa does have a cameo here and then Barry's like "Wait here." He's all messed up or whatever, so he goes home, turns on his computer and goes to the fridge to get milk or something - then there's a distress call on his computer monitor.

He goes to it and it's Batfleck in the Batsuit:
"Barry, you got to help me. You changed the timeline. You got to rescue me."

It's implied that he's in another universe and can somehow talk to him, but that's not stated, and that is the Post-Credits scene.
Ben Affleck's Batman does still exist somewhere, and Barry might have to go save him.

WB/DC seeing some random tweet with Ben Affleck's picture getting 1000 times more traction than their entire Comic Con show

 

[Sleepwalker]

Ben batman best batman

 

[Setzer]

He's my 3rd favorite Batman all-time so I'm happy about this. Still would like to see a stand-alone film with him as Batman.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Good decision to return to the Batman that character for him has a little more juice left.

 

[Bragr]

Never understand these people, they can get everybody yet they choose some bricked chick that will ditch him in 2-3 years, like they do with all there relationships.

Worth it.

 

[ArtHands]

I'm just tired of people stating their opinion as fact, it was just to demonstrate that what you think is not necessary the truth.


Major spoiler:

Spoiler: Post credit scene of The Flash

Apparently when Barry returns to the present, Keaton is the main Batman BUT Barry get a call on his computer and it's actually Batfleck, asking for help as Barry messed up the timeline and sent him in another universe (which could be the Knightmare timeline).
And ZSJL is canon, not JL 2017. Confirmed again by today's leak since there has been another screening recently

Full report:
Here's the last report of the post-credit sequence that I've seen u/ViewerAnon corroborate from a larger leak:

The Post-Credits scene starts with Barry helping out a drunk Aquaman out of a bar.
Jason Momoa does have a cameo here and then Barry's like "Wait here." He's all messed up or whatever, so he goes home, turns on his computer and goes to the fridge to get milk or something - then there's a distress call on his computer monitor.

He goes to it and it's Batfleck in the Batsuit:
"Barry, you got to help me. You changed the timeline. You got to rescue me."

It's implied that he's in another universe and can somehow talk to him, but that's not stated, and that is the Post-Credits scene.
Ben Affleck's Batman does still exist somewhere, and Barry might have to go save him.

Reads like a clusterfuck to have both new and old DCEU going forward so I hope this is not true. They should learn from MCU on how to do multiverse on the big screens.

 

[jason10mm]

I'm watching the Superman + Shazam vs Black Adam cartoon film from like 2010 and it's simple but sooo good. Why can't DC just translate those to live action?

Or just start bumping the animation budget a bit and put them in theaters like Mask of the Phantasm. I think animated DC is the best DC.

 

[PrimetimeKnight]

I miss Batfleck and Irons Alfred. The scenes with these 2 this were so damn good. Irons best Alfred by far and it isn't close.

 

[Paasei]

Batfish. And yes, those do exist.

 

[Days like these...]

Batfish. And yes, those do exist.

What does it taste like?

 

[Paasei]

What does it taste like?

I am sadly unable to answer that question. But just like anything that is mostly unknown, it will probably taste just like chicken.

 

[Kamina]

Cool, will he replace Amber Heard?

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm just tired of people stating their opinion as fact, it was just to demonstrate that what you think is not necessary the truth.


Major spoiler:

Spoiler: Post credit scene of The Flash

Apparently when Barry returns to the present, Keaton is the main Batman BUT Barry get a call on his computer and it's actually Batfleck, asking for help as Barry messed up the timeline and sent him in another universe (which could be the Knightmare timeline).
And ZSJL is canon, not JL 2017. Confirmed again by today's leak since there has been another screening recently

Full report:
Here's the last report of the post-credit sequence that I've seen u/ViewerAnon corroborate from a larger leak:

The Post-Credits scene starts with Barry helping out a drunk Aquaman out of a bar.
Jason Momoa does have a cameo here and then Barry's like "Wait here." He's all messed up or whatever, so he goes home, turns on his computer and goes to the fridge to get milk or something - then there's a distress call on his computer monitor.

He goes to it and it's Batfleck in the Batsuit:
"Barry, you got to help me. You changed the timeline. You got to rescue me."

It's implied that he's in another universe and can somehow talk to him, but that's not stated, and that is the Post-Credits scene.
Ben Affleck's Batman does still exist somewhere, and Barry might have to go save him.

That sounds utterly confusing, stupid and awful.

Probably true.

Also, it’s factually true that Keaton’s Batman was more successful than Affleck’s. You might not like that, but them’s the facts.

Hell, I don’t really like either version, and neither of them should be in any current DC movies as far as I’m concerned. It’s all part of the clusterfuck that WB/DC has been for nearly ten years.

 

[pramod]

Why did people not like Batfleck? I thought he did a good job with the role. A lot more believable than the current emo Batman.

 

[FunkMiller]

Why did people not like Batfleck? I thought he did a good job with the role. A lot more believable than the current emo Batman.

You mean bloated, murdery, almost superhuman Batman, whose motivations make zero sense, and therefore comes across as a bit of a moron? That Batman?

Affleck probably had a decent Batman performance in him, but ended up in a film made by a man who doesn’t understand the character, and can’t tell a story that makes any sense. Nobody disliked Batfleck. Most people disliked Snyder’s poor film making.

See also Henry Cavill’s Superman.

I’d have been happy to see them both back, in movies directed and written by somebody else.

 

[fran.fernandez]

Well. Yes , aquaman 1 is lame and boring.

So, no hopes for the second entry

 

[Synless]

J-Lo has got him feeling like a man again. Maybe now he will do a stand-alone one that he bitched out on.

 

[KyoZz]

Also, it’s factually true that Keaton’s Batman was more successful than Affleck’s

COD is one of the most successful game every year. Is it the best?
Marvel movies are very successful, are they the best?

You mean bloated, murdery, almost superhuman Batman, whose motivations make zero sense, and therefore comes across as a bit of a moron? That Batman?

Don't like the movie ok, but stop saying bullshit...

by a man who doesn’t understand the character, and can’t tell a story that makes any sense

Again, don't like it it's fine, but this is just stupid because I think most of directors would like to get their movies disliked like that:

Even BvS UE is at 7,1/10, not that bad right?

And I guess you liked The Batman? Who is afraid of height, but also have superhuman resistance because that fall must have killed him 3 times and that explosion (on his face) killed him a 4th time. But hey it's pretty so free pass

I’d have been happy to see them both back, in movies directed and written by somebody else.

Yeah because when Snyder is not attached it is so much better right?
*cough* WW84, Bird of Prey, The Stupid Squad *cough* woah such a good quality line-up.

I'm sorry but I'm rooting for this, not that Marvel-ish universe they tried to impose us:

 

[FunkMiller]

COD is one of the most successful game every year. Is it the best?
Marvel movies are very successful, are they the best?


Don't like the movie ok, but stop saying bullshit...


Again, don't like it it's fine, but this is just stupid because I think most of directors would like to get their movies disliked like that:

Even BvS UE is at 7,1/10, not that bad right?

And I guess you liked The Batman? Who is afraid of height, but also have superhuman resistance because that fall must have killed him 3 times and that explosion (on his face) killed him a 4th time. But hey it's pretty so free pass


Yeah because when Snyder is not attached it is so much better right?
*cough* WW84, Bird of Prey, The Stupid Squad *cough* woah such a good quality line-up.

I'm sorry but I'm rooting for this, not that Marvel-ish universe they tried to impose us:

Keep going all you like mate. The fact remains Snyder’s work was objectively a box office disappointment and a critical failure, otherwise WB wouldn’t be in this gigantic mess now - with the mostly awful track record since 2016. BvS was poor, which led to the JL mess, which led to WB limping on with a failed cinematic universe, just because they kept trying to keep up with Marvel. All of it begins with the mistake of choosing Snyder though. That was the start of it. Before then… DC were doing pretty well at the cinema, you know?

 

[KyoZz]

Keep going all you like mate. The fact remains Snyder’s work was objectively a failure, otherwise WB wouldn’t be in this gigantic mess now - with the mostly awful track record since 2016. BvS was poor, which led to the JL mess, which led to WB limping on with a failed cinematic universe, just because they kept trying to keep up with Marvel. All of it begins with the mistake of choosing Snyder though.

Ah yeah the excuse of money. BvS made almost 900 million and by today's standard would break a billion. In what word it is a failure? Sure it is not enough for WB but still, calling that a failure is overexaggerated.
They should have stick to the plan that I already posted 2 times here, that's it. WB caused this mess themselves.

 

[FunkMiller]

Ah yeah the excuse of money. BvS made almost 900 million and by today's standard would break a billion. In what word it is a failure? Sure it is not enough for WB but still, calling that a failure is overexaggerated.
They should have stick to the plan that I already posted 2 times here, that's it. WB caused this mess themselves.

BvS was universally panned. The second week drop off was astronomic. The audience Cinemascore was woeful. Any film starring Batman and Superman should have *easily* broken one billion at that time. And no, the extended cut wouldn’t have made much difference, as the movie retains a majority of its flaws even in that.

They simply picked the wrong man to shepherd the DC universe. I don’t blame Snyder for that. It’s down to WB’s poor decision making.

 

[KyoZz]

BvS was universally panned. The second week drop off was astronomic. The audience Cinemascore was woeful. Any film starring Batman and Superman should have *easily* broken one billion at that time. And no, the extended cut wouldn’t have made much difference, as the movie retains a majority of its flaws even in that.

They simply picked the wrong man to shepherd the DC universe. I don’t blame Snyder for that. It’s down to WB’s poor decision making.

No, not universally panned because look at how many fans are campaigning for the return of this universe... 1,5 MILLION tweet for RestoreTheSnyderVerse (and don't talk about bots, by the article they are only 13% which is quite low). This is a number most studio only dream about when they campaign for their movies. Look at the hype for the SDCC 2022 and compare it to the hype with this announcement for Batfleck.

Again, BvS UE is at 7.1/10 on iMDB. Not that bad for a "movie who retains a majority of its flaws". The theatrical cut must not be that bad after all. With time, it's a film that grew in the minds of many people.

 

[FunkMiller]

No, not universally panned because look at how many fans are campaigning for the return of this universe... 1,5 MILLION tweet for RestoreTheSnyderVerse (and don't talk about bots, by the article they are only 13% which is quite low). This is a number most studio only dream about when they campaign for their movies. Look at the hype for the SDCC 2022 and compare it to the hype with this announcement for Batfleck.

Again, BvS UE is at 7.1/10 on iMDB. Not that bad for a "movie who retains a majority of its flaws". The theatrical cut must not be that bad after all. With time, it's a film that grew in the minds of many people.

When your entire evidence is based on social media, and you ignore everything else, it might not be the best foundation from which to make an argument.

Further, there’s a good argument to be made that WB have found themselves in this mess because they’ve listened to what they’ve seen far too much on social media… which is never generally representative of the majority. Places like Twitter warp actual popularity and importance out of all recognition.

Nobody would argue that the Snyder cult aren’t very vocal on social media. That much is undeniable.

 

[Doom85]

Keep going all you like mate. The fact remains Snyder’s work was objectively a box office disappointment and a critical failure, otherwise WB wouldn’t be in this gigantic mess now - with the mostly awful track record since 2016.

Post-2016:

Wonder Woman: major box office success
Justice League 2017: roughly broke even
Aquaman: massive BO success
Shazam: decent BO success
Joker: absolutely incredible BO success
Wonder Woman 2: flop…..but released in theaters in 2020 so big shocker
The Suicide Squad: flop, though this was likely due to the COVID variant being reported as getting very widespread on the film’s opening weekend
The Batman: pretty good BO success

THIS is a mostly awful track record?

 

[FunkMiller]

Post-2016:

Wonder Woman: major box office success
Justice League 2017: roughly broke even
Aquaman: massive BO success
Shazam: decent BO success
Joker: absolutely incredible BO success
Wonder Woman 2: flop…..but released in theaters in 2020 so big shocker
The Suicide Squad: flop, though this was likely due to the COVID variant being reported as getting very widespread on the film’s opening weekend
The Batman: pretty good BO success

THIS is a mostly awful track record?

I’m only talking about the DCEU based on Snyder’s vision. Also critical reception as well as box office.

You think JL broke even?

 

[Doom85]

I’m only talking about the DCEU based on Snyder’s vision. Also critical reception as well as box office.

You think JL broke even?

But you said “since 2016”. Snyder only had one DC film made (Snyder Cut) after 2016. And the way you phrased it, I had no reason to believe you weren’t referring to WB (who had lots of DC films post 2016) as opposed to Snyder (who had one DC film post 2016, which can’t constitute a track record by definition).

Yeah, 650 million against a roughly 300 million budget. Even if it underperformed, it wasn’t by much.

 

[FunkMiller]

But you said “since 2016”. Snyder only had one DC film made (Snyder Cut) after 2016. And the way you phrased it, I had no reason to believe you weren’t referring to WB (who had lots of DC films post 2016) as opposed to Snyder (who had one DC film post 2016, which can’t constitute a track record by definition).

Yeah, 650 million against a roughly 300 million budget. Even if it underperformed, it wasn’t by much.

JL lost 60 million dollars.

My entire conversation with KyoZz has been about Snyder.

 

[Doom85]

As for critical reception:

Wonder Woman: Fresh
JL: Rotten/Audience Fresh
Aquaman: Fresh
Shazam: Fresh
Joker: Fresh
WW 2: Rotten/Audience Fresh
Snyder Cut: Fresh
The Suicide Squad: Fresh
The Batman: Fresh

 

[Doom85]

JL lost 90 million dollars.

My entire conversation with KyoZz has been about Snyder.

Article link?

Okay, well why bring up “track record since 2016” if we’re only talking Snyder’s DC movies? A single DC movie can’t be defined as a record, you need at least entries.

 

[FunkMiller]

Article link?

Okay, well why bring up “track record since 2016” if we’re only talking Snyder’s DC movies? A single DC movie can’t be defined as a record, you need at least entries.

Look it up yourself dude. It’s easily available info.

Snyder’s balls up with BvS is what led to the mess the DCEU is in. Which is what my posts say, if you actually read them.

 

[KyoZz]

When your entire evidence is based on social media, and you ignore everything else, it might not be the best foundation from which to make an argument.

Further, there’s a good argument to be made that WB have found themselves in this mess because they’ve listened to what they’ve seen far too much on social media… which is never generally representative of the majority. Places like Twitter warp actual popularity and importance out of all recognition.

Nobody would argue that the Snyder cult aren’t very vocal on social media. That much is undeniable.

And your evidence that Keaton is more liked than Batfleck is based on...?

My entire conversation with KyoZz has been about Snyder.

Nah, it was about which Batmen is the more liked/popular right now. You then took the box office to "prove" your point.

Snyder’s balls up with BvS is what led to the mess the DCEU is in. Which is what my posts say, if you actually read them.

Still a nope, WB (and blogger) are responsible for this. And they killed any hype with JL 2017.
If the SnyderCut had come out in 2017, I'm telling you the DCEU would be in a much better shape right now.

 

[Doom85]

Look it up yourself dude. It’s easily available info.

Snyder’s balls up with BvS is what led to the mess the DCEU is in. Which is what my posts say, if you actually read them.

The info I looked up gave info that is contradictory to what you’re claiming.

Mostly critical success since 2016, mostly financial success since 2016, I’m seeing no signs of a mess here. Or are you honestly blaming Snyder for Ezra Miller and Amber Heard’s illegal activities? Because those two are the only significant issues DC films are facing right now.

 

[FunkMiller]

Never argue with the religious or Snyder fans.

 

[Doom85]

Never argue with the religious or Snyder fans.

I’m not religious, and my favorite DC movies since 2013 (Wonder Woman 1, Joker, The Suicide Squad, The Batman, and to a lesser extent Aquaman and Shazam) were not directed by Snyder. I liked Man of Steel pretty well, BvS was just okay, and I haven’t gotten around to watching the Snyder cut. And for the record, Sucker Punch was one of, if not the, worst movie I saw the year it came out. I like some of his films, but I by no means enjoy all of them.

Also, I try not to give the man too much grief given what happened to his daughter.

 

[KyoZz]

Never argue with the religious or Snyder fans.

Always a little spade. But we are the toxic fans

I’m not religious, and my favorite DC movies since 2013 (Wonder Woman 1, Joker, The Suicide Squad, The Batman, and to a lesser extent Aquaman and Shazam) were not directed by Snyder. I liked Man of Steel pretty well, BvS was just okay, and I haven’t gotten around to watching the Snyder cut. And for the record, Sucker Punch was one of, if not the, worst movie I saw the year it came out. I like some of his films, but I by no means enjoy all of them.

Also, I try not to give the man too much grief given what happened to his daughter.

Thank you for acting like an adult. See FunkMiller we don't have to agree, but stop saying "it's shit" or "uh you cultist" "Snyder don't understand a thing and is shit" etc...
Share your opinion, don't state them as facts.

 

[jason10mm]

Screw the Snyder verse, League of SuperPets was fantastic. Just make more of that. They took the piss out of all the emo, honored the classic films, and made it fun.

Keanu Reeves for Batman!

 

[SJRB]

 

[VulcanRaven]

No he‘s Batman. But he’s replacing Keaton in it due to the delay of The Flash. Originally Aquaman 2 came out after The Flash and Keaton showed up as Batman. Now that Aquaman 2 is coming out before The Flash they have to replace Keaton otherwise him showing up would confuse people.

Hopefully they release the Keaton scenes on the Blu-Ray or something.

Sad that The Flash was delayed so much. I'm very excited that Keaton is coming back so I don't like hearing that they are cutting his scenes.

 

[ManaByte]

Sad that The Flash was delayed so much. I'm very excited that Keaton is coming back so I don't like hearing that they are cutting his scenes.

He is in Batgirl A LOT and it's testing so well WB is considering releasing it in theaters instead of direct to HBO Max.

And in the rebooted universe where Keaton is Batman, Pheiffer is Catwoman.

 

[Big Baller]

 

[dr_octagon]

Irons best Alfred by far and it isn't close.

 

[Patrick S.]

Jaden Smith best Batman

 

[ntropy]

I'm sure he will



We (the cult) don't think that. We are just very surprised (and fuckin happy) to see Affleck don the suit again. Also if the post credit scene for The Flash is true, your comment is not gonna age well.


It's embarrassing at this point, Keaton is 3rd in every poll and Bale close second. As it should be:

18K, 77k, 20k votes etc... and always the same result.

twitter polls

 

[lostinblue]

He looks so happy again now that JLo is bouncin on his dick.

I think he was happy dunking Ana de Armas as well.

 

[KyoZz]

twitter polls

Prove me wrong then

Also iMDB has like more than 4 million followers, Gamespot almost 5 million etc etc so... I'd say it's representative of what most people think.

 

[IDKFA]

Ben Affleck was a decent Batman, as was Keaton. The only actor who did a piss poor job was George Clooney, but that's more to do with the material he has to work with.

 

[gamescoltsfan]

Yo. A mini dc universe movie. Too got tho. Like too nordic.