I just wanna say that after the past week with BLM, the idea that this country could stomach a revolution is absolutely hysterical to me.
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Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton for president
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I just wanna say that after the past week with BLM, the idea that this country could stomach a revolution is absolutely hysterical to me.
To Far Away Times
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It really sucks that Hillary will be president.
In eight years she'll have instigated atleast one needless war and the income gap between the wealthy and the middle class will grow tremendously.
We made the wrong choice.
She's less bad than the Trump, but make no mistake, she'll be terrible.
In eight years she'll have instigated atleast one needless war and the income gap between the wealthy and the middle class will grow tremendously.
We made the wrong choice.
She's less bad than the Trump, but make no mistake, she'll be terrible.
darkwing-buck
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Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I thought since the old man has finally decided to put his support towards Clinton you sane people would unite and be friends now in order to face the real challenge, the Trump monstrosity.
And yet it seems like many are you are still slinging muds towards each other. Makes me think what is really that you're supporting, the candidate/what they actually represent or your own sense of perceived moral superiority over another.
Saaaad.
And yet it seems like many are you are still slinging muds towards each other. Makes me think what is really that you're supporting, the candidate/what they actually represent or your own sense of perceived moral superiority over another.
Saaaad.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Most of the people I know who check in on TYT do so to laugh at people like Jimmy.
boiled goose
good with gravy
I'm in the camp that we will see only minimal if any progress with Clinton.. but Trump will send us back decades..
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Dude said "what's wrong with internment camps and torture?"
Your anecdotes are relevant how?
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Dude said "what's wrong with internment camps and torture?"
Your anecdotes are relevant how?
Same. I believe the house will be locked red until 2020. There's no way Clinton will get a lot of real progress done as Republicans sit there obstructing everything. That said, liberal majority supreme court will ensure their bullshit is prevent for decades to come.
TestOfTide
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Reading comprehension is clearly one of your flaws.
My entire long post wasn't about not voting Hillary. It was about voting trump.
I know my words can be harsh, but you seem to be missing my point.
If you say "I'm not going to vote for Hillary, because...." I might disagree with your choice but I can at least understand where you are coming from.
But when you say "I'm not going to vote for Hillary; in fact I'm going to vote for Trump" you lose all moral ground for the reasons I stated.
Now you still have time to redeem yourself, and frankly all you need to do to November to be a decent human being is to NOT VOTE TRUMP. If you can't stomach Hillary, fine. But actually voting for Trump makes you a bad person because that means that you are voting for a man that has done/said that long list I gave you.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Prediction time!
Will President Hillary reverse once more on TPP and sign a TPP law during her presidency?
I predict.. Yes!
Under the guise of compromise with Republicans of course.
Will President Hillary reverse once more on TPP and sign a TPP law during her presidency?
I predict.. Yes!
Under the guise of compromise with Republicans of course.
You're just insulting everyone today, huh?
You ever think about taking a different approach in response to something you disagree with?
Alternative prediction: Congress will pass it and Obama will sign it during the lame duck session, after the election but before Hillary takes office.
Why would it be compromising with Republicans when TPP is Obama's project?
I'm gonna say no, because it will lose her chance to win 2020. Not a wise move honestly, plus the Democratic base know how foolish it is to even bother compromising with Republicans after the amount of obstruction they did with Obama.
Alternatively, yeah, I could see this happening too.
If that's an insult, then what I've gotten over the years is physical assault.
Obama's going to pass it during the lame duck with GOP votes and a few Democratic votes.
Metalingus5150
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Chaos? Seriously?
I will avatar bet you that this doesn't happen, but you have to still be reading GAF in eight years for it to be relevant I guess.
balladofwindfishes
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TPP will never reach her desk, because Obama will have already signed it
fuck
Trump has five of the six emeralds.
Metalingus5150
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Okay, you made me laugh.
Huh. Aren't we a little thin skinned if that looks like an insult?
TestOfTide
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First off, reread my post, because I edited it to address another post of yours.
Second, telling someone that they have reading comprehension issues isn't a major insult. I didn't call him retarded. I didn't even call him illiterate.
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Third, I have actually thought about how to respond to people I disagree with lately. In fact it's entirely the reason I have started posting a lot more than I used to.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Depressing.
googleplex
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This seriously sickens me. You throw around words like revolution and chaos like its nothing. What a privileged life you must live.
No, she won't have. She's not Bush, she has no reason to and never indicated she would. A situation like Lybia does not count.
Metalingus5150
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Look if you're really for the LGBT community, then you won't vote for Trump. Did you not see the thread where the GOP is debating their platform? Total Anti LGBT.
But I want more of the like... dance dance sort of revolution.
TestOfTide
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Exactly. I know there are posters that are trying to convince him to vote Hillary, but the most important thing is simply whether or not he votes for Trump.
If he wants to vote for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein because he can't stand Hillary so much, then whatever. But there is no good argument for voting Trump.
Iran sanctions have been one of the most important diplomatic successes in modern history, and has taken the issue of Iran essentially off the table for the this election, compared to the "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" chants of 2008. She's not some insane war-monger.
Roland_Gunner
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People calling for revolution and shit make me think of this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF7e2rgzsrU
I hope so.
Listening to populist backlash against something people barely understand would be terrible and has been the low mark of her campaign so far.
This is more of my jam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGLGzRXY5Bw
If you want the "every opinion is precious and equal with no actual debate" approach after posting drivel, this isn't the board to do it. People aren't just disagreeing with you -- they are dismantling your broken logic.
Ha ha, funny. I'm going to get my rights revoked, possibly get killed, while my boyfriend is going to be profiled as a possible "radical islamist" and possibly deported back to Mexico because he's the child of an illegal immigrant if we had your way.
Meanwhile, what you want is never gonna happen and what's likely going to happen is that young white liberals are going to tweet on their faceagrams about how bad it all is and miss voting midterms... again...
Minorities are going to have to step their game, but, well, we're going to be targeted and get killed because we're going to be seen as terrorists even if we're peaceful. Plus there's gonna be a lot of fringe bigots whose gonna kill us off because they feel vindicated.
Ha... funny...
I mean, this isn't the Wii U we're talking about here. If your position is disgusting and immoral, you should probably expect some pretty strident responses.
Aaron Strife
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Human Rights Campaign scorecard for Hillary Clinton
2001-2003 100%
2003-2005 88%
2005-2007 89%
2007-2009 95%
lol?
She's always been on the left of LGBT issues. The left shifted and then she did too. Sanders did the same thing, lobbying Vermont legislators not to pass gay marriage in 06 only to come around and endorse it in 09 once they had the votes.
That was incredibly rude.
You call that rude?
You know, maybe you should vote for Trump, you're just as thin skinned as he is.
Jokes aside though, you need a better counter than that. What he said isn't rude, but the reality of the situation. Your logic doesn't match reality that well.
TestOfTide
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Like if he wants to see me when I'm actually being a dick, here's my response to an actual racist:
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=209658355
Just to play devil's advocate, what if your Palestinian? Sanders and (ironically) Trump have had the most progressive stances on the issue barring third parties, but your kind of stuck in a rock and a hard place with this one. Genuine question, how to Hillary supporters justify this? Bibi is what Trump wishes he could be, yet he will surely have Clinton's full support in whatever he feels like doing.
titiklabingapat
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Liberals are their own worse enemy.
TestOfTide
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As a Hillary supporter, my way of justifying it is that unfortunately there is no way for a platform that calls Isreal to task to actually win in the US right now.
Even the Iran Deal only went through because there weren't enough Democrats willing to vote against it to override a presidential veto. But there still were a lot of democrats that voted to undermine the president just because the Iran Deal was not favored by Isreal.
Personally I think voting for political chaos out of self-satisfied ignorance is pretty rude.
I wish you'd actually try and argue your point, rather than saying people are being mean to you, and ignoring everything they say.
GoldenEye 007
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Not too long ago, California opposed gay rights.
hammysaurusrex
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Using historical positions on gay marriage as a litmus test for who is and isn't "truly" in support of gay rights is a really weird curiosity that mostly comes from the same confusion that believes the SCOTUS ruling on gay marriage means all other issues are fixed.
The gay community itself had a lot of internal strife over where in terms of priority gay marriage should be. If you struck off all gay rights activists who were against gay marriage early on, you'd truncate the list considerably.
The gay community itself had a lot of internal strife over where in terms of priority gay marriage should be. If you struck off all gay rights activists who were against gay marriage early on, you'd truncate the list considerably.
Hey, I stopped in to share my feelings towards the endorsement, people asked a few questions that I answered, and then I seen where things were heading. Am I going to change your opinion and who you vote for? Do you want me to argue my points so you can try to change my mind?
It's not going to happen. I won't change your mind, and you won't change mine. Sorry about that.
I'm comfortable with the argument that Andy Sullivan is the only liberal, except that he sucks so bad on race.
You do realize that a revolution would involve a huge number of a people dying, with no more guarantee of actual progress than incremental change, right?
So, I mean, what were you hoping to get exactly from your posts? Hugs?
Perhaps my friend it's not about changing your mind, but rather understanding it.
That would actually lead to a real dialogue that we can all benefit from, which is unlikely because you have already taken the defensive.
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