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Bernie Sanders Is the Most Popular Politician in America, Poll Says
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He, as the article says, has long been considered the most popular politician in the country. If that meant anything, why did many more people vote for his opponent than vote for him?
Yeah I'm not so sure it's as simple as you are making it out to be. Most Democrats would have voted Democrat and I feel more moderates would have voted for Bernie that just were not having none of Clinton. Non Democrat votes would be the key here.
Moot anyway, he lost Hillary lost. I'm just not so sure you should say that like it's an absolute.
kitsunelaine
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BlueTsunami
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I don't see him running in 2020, so can we send the savior sentiment for him to a retirement home already
He'd be getting about as much done as Trump though.
Do you, uh, remember the primaries?
minor effort
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It kind of helps that he's "above the fray" at the moment, so to speak.
- He wasn't the candidate who lost to Trump directly.
- He didn't have to go through an ugly GE. And it would have been ugly, whether it was Bernie or Clinton who had to wrestle in cow shit with Trump.
- He's not a Republican or a Democrat. Being an independent gives him some distance.
- He wasn't the candidate who lost to Trump directly.
- He didn't have to go through an ugly GE. And it would have been ugly, whether it was Bernie or Clinton who had to wrestle in cow shit with Trump.
- He's not a Republican or a Democrat. Being an independent gives him some distance.
El_Tiguere
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The political corporate machine behind Manchurian Clinton was able to suppress the rising worker grassroots movement behind Bernie. This has happened over and over in the history of our country, and true representation for average Americans once again gets robbed.
Bernie is a great person who wants good things for the country and would absolutely have a good chance in 2020.
What planet were you taking a vacation on in 2016
kitsunelaine
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He sure as shit contributed to an ugly PE though, with lasting wounds.
El_Tiguere
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Simple question... what do you gain by attacking a politician who is favored by a lot of Americans? what are you protecting exactly?
Retromelon
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King Tubby
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Who else would it be, really? Maybe Elizabeth Warren. Sanders is the only one who came out of 2016 smelling relatively like roses.
This is an online poll.
That's weird. This inability to take any responsibility sounds an awful lot like the accusation you and yours love to toss at Hillary.
kitsunelaine
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Is it not possible that I just don't like him all that much? Is everything a conspiracy to you people?
Was waiting to see how fast this turned into a speculation thread. Thread did not disappoint.
Perhaps by 2020 the Democratic party will:
1. Not ignore / take for granted key voting groups.
2. Show some fucking backbone.
3. Not look like a bunch of clowns at their own convention.
I really hope something changes by 2020, because a the moment we have 2 complacently broken parties, and I despise them both for different reasons.
Perhaps by 2020 the Democratic party will:
1. Not ignore / take for granted key voting groups.
2. Show some fucking backbone.
3. Not look like a bunch of clowns at their own convention.
I really hope something changes by 2020, because a the moment we have 2 complacently broken parties, and I despise them both for different reasons.
SolicitorPirate
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So America elected a dangerously incompetent person for the job, and now wants a substantially less dangerous, but still incompetent person for the job.
Seems about right.
Seems about right.
You linked to an article from 2013.
Read what you replied to again.
Her popularity in 2013 is completely unrelated to the 2016 election.
The DNC didn't do itself any favors in that regard.
that seems...odd
weren't there lots of polls about people not being familiar with sanders early on in the primary? and not only that but the polling showed that once people were familiar with him that they tended to like him as well?
PdotMichael
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But GAF told me he got that base with the Berniebros. Even ignoring that Clinton could have easily got that with some better groundwork in a few key states.
kitsunelaine
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They were obviously the real enemy in the election campaign against the republican party.
If the incompetent DNC were able to stymie Bernie's chances then the Republican hate machine, online trolls and Russia would've had a field day with him.
He is the most popular among the above group from which respondents were questioned about in the linked Harvard-Harris poll.
These same sort of clickbait stories came out earlier in the year and were summed up nicely in this tweet thread.
lol not even close to true
dehydratedbabies
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This is a stupid statement.
El_Tiguere
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The inability to admit that an aristocratic broken Democrat party fucked up in picking their corrupt diva against the rising desperation of workers and regular Americans is a bigger problem. That they schemed multiple fronts to sabotage the rising movement behind Bernie is also a problem. The path forward is to stop licking the boots of donors and pay attention to common sense solutions that most Americans are yearning for.
Rumblebones
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Clinton stans will remain in denial but Bernie would have won.
DNC backed the wrong horse.
DNC backed the wrong horse.
Poll is worthless with Biden not being polled.
Retromelon
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Neither the op's title nor my post specified "during the 2016 election". These semantics fights are fucking boring
These are more or less gimmick polls. They're not very rigorous and don't mean much.
stay woke yo
No it's not, Bernie was a huge name two years ago in the summer of 2015. Only other person who had more clamor was Trump.
El_Tiguere
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The DNC controlled the process, the superdelegates, the messaging from the corporate media, the rigged registration process, the rigged primary voting process, etc etc etc. When oligarchs don't want you to gain power, they have plenty of lackeys and tools at their disposal. I would love to do a documentary on all the bullshit the Clinton/DNC cabal pulled.
The Bernie vs Trump question was very simple, even in the face of the socialist hysteria that would be expected from the right. Since Clinton Rockefeller Democrats would have had to fall in line, the contest would be two outsider's promising a direction in course, but one was a beloved politician who has remained true to fighting for justice, versus an orange pervert billionaire who was conning people with Bernie's populist rhetoric.
Shit was landslide territory.
jack_package_200
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I wasn't aware the DNC caused the Sanders campaign to not campaign in the south and to totally ignore the most reliable and consistent voting bloc of the democratic party: older minority women.
But thats just identity poltics as I sure you will say.
We literally just had a thread on how the media clearly benefited Trump and clearly damaged the Clinton campaign.
I know you are a troll but it needs to be pointed out that THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DOES NOT CONTROL THE FUCKING MEDIA
theCalamity
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I thought low turnout decided the election
kitsunelaine
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This is the most reality-ignorant thing I have ever heard (today, at least, from someone who doesn't carry the title of president). Republicans held dominance over the image of both their party and the democratic party because they made the most noise. Benghazimails.
Unknown Soldier
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GAF was and is the Hillaryest place on the Internet. No one else would question it the way it would be questioned here.
LiveFromKyoto
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Are you honestly going to sit there and tell me that grass isn't clearly greener?
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