Bernie Sanders = Ron Paul

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This is blowing my mind because I never thought the left would devolve into this similarly ridiculous ideology but it has. Bernie is basically mirroring what Ron Paul did on the right in 2008 and 2012. Neither of them ever had a chance and yet you get these threads here of people saying "oh man, he had a few thousand and sold out at this arena, he's gonna win!" It's incredible how much it seems like its the same thing. I guess support him if you enjoy it but please know how utterly pointless it is.
 
Inebriated said:
This is blowing my mind because I never thought the left would devolve into this similarly ridiculous ideology but it has. Bernie is basically mirroring what Ron Paul did on the right in 2008 and 2012. Neither of them ever had a chance and yet you get these threads here of people saying "oh man, he had a few thousand and sold out at this arena, he's gonna win!" It's incredible how much it seems like its the same thing. I guess support him if you enjoy it but please know how utterly pointless it is.
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Can Paul's idea's be traced to a history of success in other countries?
 
Bernie Sanders actually has good ideas, and his following consists of people who aren't single issue voters who only care about legalized pot.

Oh, and he's not a racist white supremacist either.
 
Inebriated said:
This is blowing my mind because I never thought the left would devolve into this similarly ridiculous ideology but it has. Bernie is basically mirroring what Ron Paul did on the right in 2008 and 2012. Neither of them ever had a chance and yet you get these threads here of people saying "oh man, he had a few thousand and sold out at this arena, he's gonna win!" It's incredible how much it seems like its the same thing. I guess support him if you enjoy it but please know how utterly pointless it is.
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One of them is batshit insane, though, and his name isn't Bernie.

also, most of Bernie supporters know he won't win. Doesn't mean they won't make a dent in the primary, though - tea party never officially won, yet shaped politics.
 
Yep. Young people get enamored by ideologues because they still live in a sheltered black and white world. You grow up and realize it is all bullshit and some ideology doesn't solve problems. I got old Ron Paul stickers I would like to burn to prove it.
 
Inebriated said:
This is blowing my mind because I never thought the left would devolve into this similarly ridiculous ideology but it has. Bernie is basically mirroring what Ron Paul did on the right in 2008 and 2012. Neither of them ever had a chance and yet you get these threads here of people saying "oh man, he had a few thousand and sold out at this arena, he's gonna win!" It's incredible how much it seems like its the same thing. I guess support him if you enjoy it but please know how utterly pointless it is.
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I mean, at least it's after 5pm. You got that going for ya.
 
One's a socialist and the other's a libertarian, they aren't that similar.
 
Aureon said:
One of them is batshit insane, though, and his name isn't Bernie.

also, most of Bernie supporters know he won't win. Doesn't mean they won't make a dent in the primary, though - tea party never officially won, yet shaped politics.
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He won't make a dent in the primary and bernie sanders supporters are as delusional and annoying as Ron Paul supporters.
 
I could see Bernie Sanders getting elected if he were running in some country in Europe. Ron Paul wouldn't get elected anywhere. Also, Ron Paul was/is the candidate of choice of wacko conspiracy theorists, while Bernie Sanders is the candidate of choice of dipshit idealists. Slight difference.
 
I'm in the Dan Carlin camp of rooting for either of them because at least they will shake things up.

Not American though, so I'm just watching from a distance and eating popcorn.
 
He's like Reverse Ronald Reagan. The hope is that he'll pull the party platform to the left or at least stop its gradual creep to the right.

If he loses the primary, all his supporters will very likely vote for Clinton, but that's a discussion for later.
 
not really

because Ron Paul attracted independents, libertarians and paleoconservatives (the latter means early 20th Century non-interventionist and pro isolationist conservatives)

however Paul isn't a neo-conservatives like the rest of the Republican party. He doesn't brandish that Extreme-Right Wing aspect that ultra-conservatives like Walker and Cruz are espousing.

Berine Sanders is not the same as Ron Paul

Sanders represents what Democrats would really want to be but are too afriad to be.

Sanders is a left wing socio-democrat that appeals to Democrats who aren't afraid to be Liberal and aren't afraid to hide that word.


Ron Paul is not an ultra neo-conservative fascist like Ted Cruz or Walker. Ron Paul is a Libertarian and a paleoconservtive.

So Paul does not equal Sanders
 
Septimus Prime said:
He's like Reverse Ronald Reagan. The hope is that he'll pull the party platform to the left or at least stop its gradual creep to the right.

If he loses the primary, all his supporters will very likely vote for Clinton, but that's a discussion for later.
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There is no "if" and the people who think differently are up there on the list of the most annoying people on this planet. He has a 0% chance of winning the primary and people would be much better of accepting that.
 
Team Alucard said:
Bernie Sanders actually has good ideas, and his following consists of people who aren't single issue voters who only care about legalized pot.

Oh, and he's not a racist white supremacist either.
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Thank you.

I've been seeing this comparison pop up quite a bit recently and I feel like it's completely off base.
 
Ron Paul was shit because his policies were shit, not because he had some annoying fans. Bernie isn't shit because his policies aren't shit.
 
Inebriated said:
There is no "if" and the people who think differently are up there on the list of the most annoying people on this planet. He has a 0% chance of winning the primary and people would be much better of accepting that.
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Ron Paul was a horrible unelectable divisive pandering racist evolution denying anti vaccine goldbug homophobe who was unelectable in the current system.

Bernie Sanders is a thoughtful honest and clever liberal who is unelectable in the current system. They share a single attribute, but you might just as well have said they both have gray hair.
 
Inebriated said:
There is no "if" and the people who think differently are up there on the list of the most annoying people on this planet. He has a 0% chance of winning the primary and people would be much better of accepting that.
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Inebriated said:
He won't make a dent in the primary and bernie sanders supporters are as delusional and annoying as Ron Paul supporters.
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did you get accosted by a gang of bernie supporters or something, you keep going to this well.
 
Ron's ideas are out there in many countries.

Bernie's ideas are only out there in America. He'd be a run-of-the-mill social democrat in many other countries.
 
People are missing the point. Both of them are old, white fringe candidates with zero support among minorities who are being supported by annoying populist lovers who will have zero impact in the primary or general election. Sorry guys, he's going to lose and lose bad.
 
To be quite honest OP, you're more annoying than any Bernie Sanders supporter I've seen.

Also, Sanders and Paul aren't at all the same, aside from being in somewhat similar positions in an election cycle. Your half assed attempt to equate the two is laughable.

God forbid people be enthusiastic about a politician who actually isn't a dishonest piece of shit.
 
They're only the same in that that rile up the "progressive" wings of their parties, but as others have said they are fundamentally different.

Sanders is what Democrats would want to be if they weren't chicken shit. Paul is on the fringe even to the intelligentsia within his own party.

Also, you know, he's not tied to racists.
 
where OP is in the wrong is that Ron Paul attracted "NON-Republicans.

most of the appeal for Ron Paul did not come at all anywhre from the GOP base.

Bernie Sanders however taps into the socio-democrat liberal wing from the Democrats on to the Left.


If you really want to compare, then Donald Trump would be a better figure to compare because Donald Trump is tapping from the lunatic fuck you fringe of the Republican party. Not Ron Paul
 
Inebriated said:
He has a 0% chance of winning the primary and people would be much better of accepting that.
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Not really. If (likely when) Bernie fails to capture the nomination, he will still have managed to pull the democratic primary to the left, which is something we need.

Now is the perfect time to do it too, since the GOP has no viable candidate to punish such a move.
 
Two politicians are the same because they have no chance. I can't call this absurd, because even absurdity contains some logic.
 
Inebriated said:
This is blowing my mind because I never thought the left would devolve into this similarly ridiculous ideology but it has. Bernie is basically mirroring what Ron Paul did on the right in 2008 and 2012. Neither of them ever had a chance and yet you get these threads here of people saying "oh man, he had a few thousand and sold out at this arena, he's gonna win!" It's incredible how much it seems like its the same thing. I guess support him if you enjoy it but please know how utterly pointless it is.
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OP read my post in the bernie thread and made a thread about it.
 
Inebriated said:
There is no "if" and the people who think differently are up there on the list of the most annoying people on this planet. He has a 0% chance of winning the primary and people would be much better of accepting that.
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Why? If he truly has no chance (and his chances aren't good), then you should support him to nudge the platform left. Then you vote for Clinton in the general but keep supporting his initiatives.
 
Makai said:
This literally applies to me. I supported Ron Paul in high school. Now I support Bernie.
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And there it is. I won't take the time to search but I'm willing to bet dozens of people on GAF supported Paul in either 2008 or 2012 who now support Sanders despite polar opposite policies. They are in love with populism, not real policies.
 
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Inebriated said:
This is blowing my mind because I never thought the left would devolve into this similarly ridiculous ideology but it has. Bernie is basically mirroring what Ron Paul did on the right in 2008 and 2012. Neither of them ever had a chance and yet you get these threads here of people saying "oh man, he had a few thousand and sold out at this arena, he's gonna win!" It's incredible how much it seems like its the same thing. I guess support him if you enjoy it but please know how utterly pointless it is.
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Really? Almost every time I hear him mentioned on here it's almost always accompanied by an "I know he's not going to win but..."
 
Inebriated said:
And there it is. I won't take the time to search but I'm willing to bet dozens of people on GAF supported Paul in either 2008 or 2012 who now support Sanders despite polar opposite policies. They are in love with populism, not real policies.
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Bernie has stated far more planned policies than Clinton has so far. Also, you act like Bernie came into existence from a time portal last month. Plenty of his have liked him for years.
 
Inebriated said:
And there it is. I won't take the time to search but I'm willing to bet dozens of people on GAF supported Paul in either 2008 or 2012 who now support Sanders despite polar opposite policies. They are in love with populism, not real policies.
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You're talking out of your ass. Starting your posts with snarky shit like "and there it is" doesn't bolster your points at all, fyi.
 
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