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[Aaronology]

You seem to forget that he won over 40% of the vote in the primary. As much as you hate him (which you make plainly obvious, to the point where it's pretty sad), dems need him and his supporters. You mention him becoming a dem recently as a criticism, but that sort of thing is what endears him to many others. You don't think he has a right to "lecture" the DNC, but a big chunk of the democratic primary voters do want him to have a voice -- he gives them a voice. They see him as pushing the DNC to be better and it's pretty shitty of you to disregard the opinions of so many fellow dems. Framing it like it's all bout his ego and himself just makes you look petty -- just like people saying Clinton only wants to be pres for the power etc.



After Clinton became the presumptive nominee, while gaf was enraged at Sanders' "ego" to stay in the race and push for a more progressive platform, polls suggested most democrats (across all races, education levels, and all income levels except $100k+) were cool with him staying in until the convention. So you can huff and puff all you want, but don't pretend like you represent all dems and Bernie is just alone trying to ruin it for everyone else.

I don't hate Bernie Sanders; I am simply very, very tired of him. That poll doesn't particularly sway my opinion. One, my thoughts on this are not dictated by what other registered voters think. Two, if asked at several points in the past I also would have replied in the affirmative to Sanders remaining in the race. His issues are legitimate. The causes he champions are important and deserve every bit of attention they can get.

The problem is not that he has stayed in the race, it's the manner in which he's done so. It's how he conducted the latter portions of his campaign. It's the negativity that consumed and overshadowed whatever message he hoped to progress by refusing to concede. We've been talking about his attacks on AIDs activists, his smearing of EMILY's List, his constant attacks on the DNC, his childish retaliations at Barney Frank, accusing Clinton's campaign of criminality left and right and back and forth and on and on and on. It's draining and unproductive, and I'm ready to segue on from this primary and focus on Donald Trump. So is Obama, and Elizabeth Warren, clearly most of his peers and (I imagine now) many, many democrats.

I mentioned him joining the DNC precisely because I felt it hypocritical that this man is telling the same organization he joined solely for a chance to win the most important election in our country that winning elections is secondary to improving America (as if no one but him is interested in doing so!). And what makes it worse is that he was merely deflecting from inquiries about his endorsement and not being completely earnest. I'm tired of so often seeing this type of behavior from him and would like to see him bow out with whatever grace he has left. It has nothing to do with hating the man, or being "petty". Don't be silly. He lost, point blank, and by dragging out this process he is slowly becoming more ignored than if he had timely conceded and endorsed Clinton at the height of his appeal. His stubbornness is slowly forcing him into irrelevancy, and that does not give his supporters more of a voice in any way.

 

[Mael]

Doesn't change the fact that they were booing the notion that their jobs is to serve america, not to get elected.

Though I know many will praise anything as long as it's anti-Bernie.

Because he's a massive hypocrite, he did nothing about the gun control issue that is quite clearly something that IS more important than the seats of the elected officials BECAUSE it might cost him his seat.
If he was all about the greater good, he wouldn't be joecomeslate on many issues while trying to push his pet issue like it's 1960.

 

[Bounceounce]

Because he's a massive hypocrite, he did nothing about the gun control issue that is quite clearly something that IS more important than the seats of the elected officials BECAUSE it might cost him his seat.
If he was all about the greater good, he wouldn't be joecomeslate on many issues while trying to push his pet issue like it's 1960.

Or maybe these are his beliefs on gun control, which means you simply have a moral disagreement with Bernie as to what the right thing is.
But it's only Bernie who's a massive hypocrite on Neogaf, not hillgawd.

 

[Aaronology]

Doesn't change the fact that they were booing the notion that their jobs is to serve america, not to get elected.

Though I know many will praise anything as long as it's anti-Bernie.

No, they were booing the loser of their party's primary obfuscating on setting a timeline to endorse the candidate chosen by voters during an election with extreme stakes, while pontificating on the purpose of the party despite having antagonized it for months and having joined it only to further his ambition to get elected himself.

That would rightfully annoy most people.

 

[jakonovski]

This (thread) is not so much being annoyed, more like Ahab going after his white whale.

 

[Mael]

Or maybe these are his beliefs on gun control, which means you simply have a moral disagreement with Bernie as to what the right thing is.
But it's only Bernie who's a massive hypocrite on Neogaf, not hillgawd.

A politician having change of hearts or being inconsistent is pretty much like a puddle in the rain.
You stop counting them because there's no point.
A politician saying he is above all this better fucking be above it or he's going to be watched like a hawk until he is crashing back to earth with the rest of the populace.
If he didn't insist on being the purest, bestest ever we wouldn't be grilling his ass because he is not the perfect snowflake he claim he is.
You can't claim that special interest is an issue in politics when you are defending special interests.

 

[Aaronology]

Or maybe these are his beliefs on gun control, which means you simply have a moral disagreement with Bernie as to what the right thing is.
But it's only Bernie who's a massive hypocrite on Neogaf, not hillgawd.

Which beliefs on gun control are we referring to here? He seems to have changed them during the primary, no?

Honestly, I do not mind. I am gladly giving my vote to Hillary Clinton. I gladly gave it to Obama. I recognize the necessity of having to appeal to certain elements to get elected, something they both have done. Given Bernie's oscillating stance on gun control it seems he too understands the importance of being elected, his recent remarks notwithstanding.

 

[DeadlyVirus]

Keep our power and place in the goverment? Yayyyyy
Actually trying to better the country instead of just winning elections? Boooo

 

[jakonovski]

Since this is another Bernie bashfest, what is his flip flop on gun control?

 

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