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[Jobbs]

Man I'm gonna miss Obama.. Definitely the best president we've had in my lifetime, and I feel history will look back on him increasingly fondly for how measured and consistent he was in the face of unprecedented adversity

Bernie supporters.

Your candidate lost. The system is not broken. He got less votes because people like Hillary more. There is no revolution. There is no saving grace. Momentum does not exist. He's not going to "save" things.

He lost. It's over. Get over it.

The system is broken but yeah he did lose fair and square anyway so the brokenness didn't matter

 

[sturgboski]

Once a candidate gets a 100 point lead in primaries, historically, it's a herculean task to come back from.

That was pretty much cemented on Super Tuesday

I agree. I don't mind him being in if he pivoted and toned down his rhetoric on Clinton and the party as whole and instead focused on attacking Trump and the Republicans. Instead he spends his time attacking Clinton, the Democratic Party, enforcing an us vs them narrative and lying to his supporters about his chances of winning. He is basically what Trump would be if Trump was in 2nd.

 

[Fat4all]

Hey now, let's not bring donuts into this.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Hey now, let's not bring donuts into this.

fine i'll leave the half-dozen donuts i got earlier at home

 

[Fat4all]

That was the point he was making. I think.

Yeah, I misread there.

 

[Frozenprince]

I mean broadly speaking yes there is no point in us continuing to criticize a man who lost 2 months ago.

But, he's the one that continues to run despite a, yes, insurmountable and impossible lead by his opponent and presumptive nominee.

He constantly and continually re-opens himself to criticism by not just leaving the race and retiring to Burlington.

 

[Prodigal Son]

And guess what? Many of these American Latinos have close connections to their country of origins. Many still have families living there and actually live there themselves, either to vacation, school, for work or all three. Sometimes, they even send money to their loved ones in those countries. What happens in there directly affect their lives here in the USA.

Very true. Of course he should have been more prepared to answer questions of that sort. But he obviously wasn't. For someone who wasn't he gave an honest, humble response of "I don't know" and proceeded to speak to the issues that he does know a lot about. His actual response to the interviewer is obviously not a bad one. What's arguably poor is the fact that he did not come prepared to answer questions about all of Latin America's current political and gang-related turmoils in a context that doesn't involve the USA.

"I was ready to talk about Dunkin donuts, but then they asked about Krispy Kreme and milk and it was downhill from there."

FOH. He should prepare better. There was no gotcha.
Then again, it doesn't matter in the long run.

Lol and yes.

 

[Frozenprince]

The system is broken but yeah he did lose fair and square anyway so the brokenness didn't matter

No. It isn't.

If you want change you vote down ticket and change the house and senate. That's it. That's literally ALL YOU NEED TO DO. It's not hard. People are just lazy fuckers and think the President is a god-king-emperor so they don't vote in mid-terms or down ticket during the GE.

The system is "broken" because people allow it to continue to be broken by not voting.

 

[jack_package_200]

Frozenprince. Chill out.

To Prodigal.

The thing with these interviews is that he is consistently unprepared and terrible at them. When you apply to a job, normally you do a little research into the company you are being interviewed by so you seem like you are knowledgeable about what values they have and what the company is about.

He consistently does not prepare at all. It would have taken maybe a half hour to prep by looking at the situations of some these countries.

 

[smurfx]

I think most people here hate Bernie and excuse the things that happened in 2008 like Hillary not bowing out until the convention and Obama's lack of experience.

Most posters seem to try to find reasons for their support for Hillary while trying to justify a contradictory stance from 2008.

The truth is people like Hillary to the point where has become the type of fanboyism that seen on the gaming side.

maybe you should go and look at 08 poligaf threads and point out who the hypocrites are instead of just generalizing everybody. shit i bet most people didn't even have accounts in 08.

 

[Jobbs]

No. It isn't.

If you want change you vote down ticket and change the house and senate. That's it. That's literally ALL YOU NEED TO DO. It's not hard. People are just lazy fuckers and think the President is a god-king-emperor so they don't vote in mid-terms or down ticket during the GE.

The system is "broken" because people allow it to continue to be broken by not voting.

I was speaking more specifically about the primary process which is a laughably overwrought convoluted joke.

I think the system at large is broken too, but that's another topic

 

[Justin]

I think most people here hate Bernie and excuse the things that happened in 2008 like Hillary not bowing out until the convention and Obama's lack of experience.

Most posters seem to try to find reasons for their support for Hillary while trying to justify a contradictory stance from 2008.

The truth is people like Hillary to the point where has become the type of fanboyism that seen on the gaming side.

Why do people keep saying Hillary didn't back out till the convention? The last contest was June 3rd. She gave her concession speech on June 7th. The convention started two and a half months later on August 25. She conceded 2 and a half months before the convention!

 

[Slayven]

I can't believe anyone is defending Bernie on this. He should have been far more prepared.

Hey rallies take a lot of time and enegry

 

[Fat4all]

I was speaking more specifically about the primary process which is a laughably overwrought convoluted joke.

I'd agree to some degree, and one of the reason's it's so hard to pin down and change in any major ways is because of the constant election cycles. The day after the next president is sworn in there's already talks about whose gonna be running for what party in 2020.

 

[TheFixer]

"I'd rather talk about the issues that face latin Americans in the United States" is essentially what Sanders responded.

He wanted to speak to the issues facing Latin-American people residing in the United States. When asked about the countries they came from, he declined a response citing a lack of information as his excuse.

If you think this is some terrible, disqualifying response, I can only hope this primary wraps up ASAP so you can snap the fuck out of it.

Sanders - at BEST - would have legislative power by fiat, but as the de facto leader of the free world he would absolutely have the ability to effectuate foreign policy in his capacity as the top U.S. diplomat. From the perspective of the actual responsibilities as president, I'd almost say that Bernie Sanders should know more about foreign policy than domestic policy given where his constitutional powers lie. This, of course, puts aside the fact that Bernie's trying to spread the good word about his brand of socialism without understanding how the socialist experiment has failed and is failing in MODERN sovereign nations only a few thousand miles due south of the continental U.S.

But, by all means, fall on the sword for savior Bernie for managing to have less to say about humanitarian crises and failed regimes than a fucking underclassman government major at my alma mater.

 

[Frozenprince]

Hey rallies take a lot of time and enegry

Tad Devine makes so much damn money to not be able to google "Venezuela" it's ridiculous.

Wish I could be that bad at my job and still be rich.

 

[Slayven]

Tad Devine makes so much damn money to not be able to google "Venezuela" it's ridiculous.

Wish I could be that bad at my job and still be rich.

Hey when you get Michael Dukakis, John Kerry, and AL Gore into the white house, you can get paid too.

 

[Prodigal Son]

Frozenprince. Chill out.

To Prodigal.

The thing with these interviews is that he is consistently unprepared and terrible at them. When you apply to a job, normally you do a little research into the company you are being interviewed by so you seem like you are knowledgeable about what values they have and what the company is about.

He consistently does not prepare at all. It would have taken maybe a half hour to prep by looking at the situations of some these countries.

Bernie does very many interviews, Jack. You hear about the ones he does questionable in because he does questionably in them. He hasn't bombed most interviews. He has very many interviews. As a side note that I'd rather not bring into this thread, for as much as the NY daily interview was used to attack him, his actual response to the questions there were fine and many, many people outside of the Sanders campaign attest to that.


Also, I've acknowledged that he should have been more prepared for this. I jumped the gun and assumed people were attacking his excuse as opposed to the reason for him making the excuse. Bernie should have been more prepared to answer questions on Latin America.

 

[Jackpot]

Bernie openly said he'd rather not talk about that, and the guy still kept asking questions about it.

"Why won't journalists ask me the questions I want them to ask?"

Literally complaining that a journalist didn't shill for a person trying to become president.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

I'm sure Hillary would have given the perfect combinations of sanitized words and catchphrases to formulate an acceptable non-answer for you, OP.

"I would gather a coalition of the willing, wa womp wa womp womp womp-"
*audience's eyes glaze over since they couldn't point out Venezuela on a map*
"...and that would totally not destabilize an entire region, which I know a little something about."
*audience wakes up and starts clapping*
"She's so experienced!"

these are sad and bitter fucking posts right here and you should feel bad making them. step outside your bubble bro

 

[atr0cious]

Why this matters. W. Bush had folks telling him what to do in FP as well, and they literally put bible verses on their reports to placate his misgivings about what he was doing. I'd imagine Bernie won't go weak in the knees because of Marx quotes, but having others make your choices for you is the direct inverse of a leader, and this is troubling if you're trying to be the leader of the most powerful country on earth. But who gives a fuck? Not like Bernie bros care about destabilization.

 

[Prodigal Son]

"Why won't journalists ask me the questions I want them to ask?"

Literally complaining that a journalist didn't shill for a person trying to become president.

When the person you're interviewing says they aren't going to talk about a certain topic, if you stray from that topic, you aren't 'shilling.' I don't think you even think this.

 

[AxelFoley]

http://fusion.net/video/307108/bernie-sanders-acknowledges-he-should-know-more-about-latin-america/



New York Daily News interview 2.0?

Seriously, Bernie has nothing substantive to say about Latin America, at all?

How can they let him go on Univision and not think Latin America will come up as a subject? Does he prepare for anything? He was utterly unprepared for the Democratic debates, except for maybe the last one.

Speaking of debates, let's talk about the Sanders-Trump debate that will probably never happen. Does he think Kelly won't ask him about Venezuela, Brazil? Does he think Trump won't pounce on him for those states' failed policies?

More importantly, you are running for President. It has been a year since you declared your candidacy. You absolutely need to know way more than you do now.

Wow. Just...wow.

I'll be so glad when Bernie exits the stage.

 

[ShironRedshift]

When the person you're interviewing says they aren't going to talk about a certain topic, if you stray from that topic, you aren't 'shilling.' I don't think you even think this.

Really? That's interesting. That's not what I tend to hear during the debates. People tend to hate it when a candidate dodges a question that was directly posed to them and the moderator doesn't call them on it and force them to answer the question, however uncomfortable it is for them, calling the moderators "weak" for caving into the candidates and letting them off the hook. And of course vice versa--when they keep the pressure on, it's considered actually doing their job.

After all, it is the job of journalists not to ask a candidate the questions they want to hear, but especially on the ones they don't, because otherwise it would be the candidates themselves controlling the scrip and narrative and that's no good for anyone.

I mean, if you really feel this way, do you feel that journalists should stop asking Hillary about her transcripts and e-mails? After all, she's made it clear numerous times that she doesn't want to talk about those subjects, and since she's made that clear, they should just stop asking her at this point, since apparently that's what matters? Whether the candidate wants to answer the question or not and if they don't, just move on, regardless of how important or valid the question may be for the context in which it is asked? Hillary's made her stance quite clear on that multiple times over so people should just stop asking her about it then since she's said her peace and doesn't want to answer it then, right?

Or is it not quite so simple after all and not entirely up to the candidate to determine which questions are important and which are valid and what they should and shouldn't be asked, regardless of how personally uncomfortable it may make them and whether they want to answer it or not, to make sure that the voters are as informed as possible and can make the best decision they possibly can, regardless of how uncomfortable that makes a particular candidate and regardless of whether it benefits or hinders them?

It simply isn't up to a candidate to choose which issues are and are not important. It's up to their constituents, who bring up their concerns in avenues through interviews such as these. It's then indeed up to the candidate at that point to decide if they want to actually address those concerns, and if so in what fashion, but if constituents bring up a particular concern and a candidate decides that well, that just isn't even worth the time to answer, they do so at their own detriment and have no one to blame other than themselves if it ends up coming back to haunt them later on.

 

[Fat4all]

When the person you're interviewing says they aren't going to talk about a certain topic, if you stray from that topic, you aren't 'shilling.' I don't think you even think this.

Blind-siding someone in an interview is one thing, this wasn't a blind-side. It was asking for an answer to a question after not getting one.

 

[Prodigal Son]

Really? That's interesting.

There's a difference between not answering a question because you prefer not to and not answering a question because you don't even know about the subject-matter. This falls in the latter and we both know that.

Not only did the interviewer not 'keep pushing the question', he asked new questions each time. Each question, however, was about latin American political and gang issues that Bernie insisted he has too little knowledge on to answer. He came to speak about issues affecting Latin Americans in the United States. He didn't come to speak about the countries they came from as the gang-crisis in Honduras has little to do with his platform as a candidate for POTUS. Like I've said, however, critics are right to note that he should have been more prepared to give an opinion on latin American issues when in a Univision interview.

Regardless, it's important to note that Sander's opinion on these things has little to do with his platform for POTUS particularly because he's largely an isolationist.

 

[hawk2025]

There's a difference between not answering a question because you prefer not to and not answering a question because you don't even know about the subject-matter. This falls in the latter and we both know that.

Not only did the interviewer not 'keep pushing the question', he asked new questions each time. Each question, however, was about latin American political and gang issues that Bernie insisted he has too little knowledge on to answer. He came to speak about issues affecting Latin Americans in the United States. He didn't come to speak about the countries they came from as the gang-crisis in Honduras has little to do with his platform as a candidate for POTUS. Like I've said, however, critics are right to note that he should have been more prepared to give an opinion on latin American issues when in a Univision interview.

Regardless, it's important to note that Sander's opinion on these things has little to do with his platform for POTUS particularly because he's largely an isolationist.

Perfect.

Just a perfect representation of how Sanders -- and you -- completely fail to understand the plurality of things that minorities actually care about, and why his campaign has failed.

 

[Prodigal Son]

Perfect.

Just a perfect representation of how Sanders -- and you -- completely fail to understand the plurality of things that minorities actually care about, and why his campaign has failed.

Nice rebuttal, guy.

I like how you made isolationism into an anti-minority stance. That's a new one. As a minority, I sure don't want presidents fucking with my country of origin with disastrous, big-stick foreign policy. I'm black and have roots in the Caribbean. Remember Operation Urgent Fury? The invasion of Grenada? We sure loved that, I bet.

You should probably know Sanders has done quite well with native Americans, Indians, muslims and hasn't done too badly with many Latinos. Really funny to see how his poor performance with AA voters has become a problem with 'minorities' despite ample evidence to the contrary.

 

[Silver Arrows]

establishment cuck

heh.

 

[Irnbru]

Perfect.

Just a perfect representation of how Sanders -- and you -- completely fail to understand the plurality of things that minorities actually care about, and why his campaign has failed.

This is pretty much it. /Latino here
This is what gets the abulelitas who always go out to vote talking, lol. These are issues affecting Latin Americans in the US.

 

[Vice]

There's a difference between not answering a question because you prefer not to and not answering a question because you don't even know about the subject-matter. This falls in the latter and we both know that.

Not only did the interviewer not 'keep pushing the question', he asked new questions each time. Each question, however, was about latin American political and gang issues that Bernie insisted he has too little knowledge on to answer. He came to speak about issues affecting Latin Americans in the United States. He didn't come to speak about the countries they came from as the gang-crisis in Honduras has little to do with his platform as a candidate for POTUS. Like I've said, however, critics are right to note that he should have been more prepared to give an opinion on latin American issues when in a Univision interview.

Regardless, it's important to note that Sander's opinion on these things has little to do with his platform for POTUS particularly because he's largely an isolationist.

Those questions are important to people of Latin American ancestry who live in the United States though. How the US intervenes in their home country and learns how to replicate their successes and failures is important to people. Learning that the man you had faith in to make things better for you, and those you're related to, can't even be bothered to get a brief rundown on some of the biggest stories in the world is a red flag.
There is more to being president than adhering to your strict platform since the thoughts and feelings of the 300+ million people you represent matter once you're actually in office and have to represent them and work with the people they elected to represent their best itnerests.

 

[Prodigal Son]

Those questions are important to people of Latin American ancestry who live in the United States though. How the US intervenes in their home country and learns how to replicate their successes and failures is important to people. Learning that the man you had faith in to make things better for you, and those you're related to, can't even be bothered to get a brief rundown on some of the biggest stories in the world is a red flag.
There is more to being president than adhering to your strict platform since the thoughts and feelings of the 300+ million people you represent matter once you're actually in office and have to represent them and work with the people they elected to represent their best itnerests.

Can you really not see why Sanders would rather not give his opinion on socialism's failure in South America? I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt but can you really not see why its wisest to dodge those questions and focus on immigration reform?

 

[Tamanon]

Can you really not see why Sanders would rather not give his opinion on socialism's failure in South America? I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt but can you really not see why its wisest to dodge those questions and focus on immigration reform?

Meh, if he wants to win voters that came from failed governments there, he kinda has to have an explanation for how his "socialism" is different from the ones there.

 

[Prodigal Son]

Meh, if he wants to win voters that came from failed governments there, he kinda has to have an explanation for how his "socialism" is different from the ones there.

Man I get that but it just seems like an obvious red flag to me. You can see how that specifically could open up an even worse shitstorm than this, right?

I can see why he would. But, if you duck a question because you don't want to answer it because it will negatively affect your campaign that's bad. It's good that Univision focused on these questions because having to deal with the reality of failing socialist states is something he would have to deal with in the general election and during his presidency if he were to make it that far.

Yeah. You're right, I guess. He should always be ready for that sort of thing.

Wait? So are we finally admitting socialist is a bad word in the US? I remember several folks saying it didn't matter anymore.

Uh. Of course it is. Imo it was dumb for Sanders to ever label himself as one. Same with his religion.

I think he's had a positive impact on how the word is perceived in the eyes of many, but's its largely been disadvantageous to his campaign.

 

[Vice]

Can you really not see why Sanders would rather not give his opinion on socialism's failure in South America? I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt but can you really not see why its wisest to dodge those questions and focus on immigration reform?

I can see why he would. But, if you duck a question because you don't want to answer it because it will negatively affect your campaign that's bad. It's good that Univision focused on these questions because having to deal with the reality of failing socialist states is something he would have to deal with in the general election and during his presidency if he were to make it that far.

 

[atr0cious]

Can you really not see why Sanders would rather not give his opinion on socialism's failure in South America? I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt but can you really not see why its wisest to dodge those questions and focus on immigration reform?

Wait? So are we finally admitting socialist is a bad word in the US? I remember several folks saying it didn't matter anymore.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Can you really not see why Sanders would rather not give his opinion on socialism's failure in South America? I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt but can you really not see why its wisest to dodge those questions and focus on immigration reform?

I can see why, yes.

It's because he's running as one.

And since he clearly doesn't know enough to differentiate his brand vs theirs to explain why his wouldn't fail like theirs he'd rather avoid talking about it completely.


Spoiler alert: He's running as a "radical" revolutionary socialist. The first thing he should be an expert on is why his brand of socialism will succeed while other types are currently failing right now.

This should be his goddamn bread and butter. He shouldn't be answering with please only ask me American questions as if the ones being asked had no value or were "foreign".

I mean this failure is why many people say his polling is meaningless because he hasn't been vetted or tested at all.

 

[Prodigal Son]

I can see why, yes.

It's because he's running as one.

And since he clearly doesn't know enough to differentiate his bramd vs theirs to explain why his wouldn't fail like theirs he'd rather avoid talking about it completely.


Spoiler alert: He's running as a "radical" revolutionary socialist. The first thing he should be ab expert on is why his bramd of socialism will succees while other types are currently failing right now.

You're very correct. He should have been more ready to answer those kinds of questions than he was. I think that's fairly clear.

 

[excelsiorlef]

You're very correct. He should have been more ready to answer those kinds of questions than he was. I think that's fairly clear.

And his failure, and an abject one at that, to do so is news and worthy of the derision he's receiving.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Desperation at it's core. No. Kicking while down. Pathetic.

Guy was asking almost exclusively about Latin America to a ridiculous degree. Bernie rightfully basically told him to fuck off. I'm running for president of the United States. That's what this interview is about. Can you ask me more about that and not about other countries please? Yeah? Okay.

It's ridiculous seeing these 'interview bombs' being used against Sanders. Ever single one has been blatantly disingenuous garbage used to spin misleading headlines and rile up stupid people.

You don't think it's appropriate for a person who wants to bring socialist structures to America to be asked about how similar socialist structures are faring in other countries? It was a Latin American interview and somehow The state of the Latin socialist movement is off limits?

This is still the simple stuff. He is having difficulties with the simple stuff.

 

[Prodigal Son]

And his failure, and an abject one at that, to do so is news and worthy of the derision he's receiving.

News Headline: "Bernie Sanders avoids questions on Latin America to talk about the United States"?

News Headline: Socialist Presidential Candidate Can't Explain Why His Socialism Would Succeed Whereas Others Fail

That'd be a great news headline as far as disingenuous bullshit goes. He dodged that question in succession with numerous other questions on the region because he didn't want to talk about the politics of that region. He came to speak of the issues of Latin American people inside of country he's running for the Presidency of.

Even if I gave you the benefit of the doubt, it sounds really bad. I mean your headline makes him sound like any other politician that strayed a bit far from the talking points script.

Haha yeah. It actually kinda does when you put it like that.

 

[excelsiorlef]

News Headline: "Bernie Sanders avoids questions on Latin America to talk about the United States"?

News Headline: Socialist Presidential Candidate Can't Explain Why His Socialism Is Different From Latin America's

 

[Toparaman]

No. It isn't.

If you want change you vote down ticket and change the house and senate. That's it. That's literally ALL YOU NEED TO DO. It's not hard. People are just lazy fuckers and think the President is a god-king-emperor so they don't vote in mid-terms or down ticket during the GE.

The system is "broken" because people allow it to continue to be broken by not voting.

So then it is broken. Pointing the finger at the people ain't gonna solve shit. Yes, people are lazy. More accurately, people are too busy and involved in their own lives to set the time and energy needed to stay involved in politics, especially when the government moves as slowly and ineffectualy as it does. But the government still needs to represent those people, not just the handful of folks who gleefully follow politics like it's sports. Politics affect everyone, yet the White House does a terrible job of keeping people engaged in politics.

We don't need a revolution. We need an evolution. Obama's administration has made some decent headway bringing the government into the digital age, but it's not nearly enough. It's fucking laughable that we can't vote online yet, for example.

 

[RustyNails]

News Headline: "Bernie Sanders avoids questions on Latin America to talk about the United States"?

Even if I gave you the benefit of the doubt, it sounds really bad. I mean your headline makes him sound like any other politician that strayed a bit far from the talking points script.

 

[Blader]

So then it is broken. Pointing the finger at the people ain't gonna solve shit. Yes, people are lazy. More accurately, people are too busy and involved in their own lives to set the time and energy needed to stay involved in politics, especially when the government moves as slowly and ineffectualy as it does. But the government still needs to represent those people, not just the handful of folks who gleefully follow politics like it's sports. Politics affect everyone, yet the White House does a terrible job of keeping people engaged in politics.

We don't need a revolution. We need an evolution. Obama's administration has made some decent headway bringing the government into the digital age, but it's not nearly enough. It's fucking laughable that we can't vote online yet, for example.

Government can only represent the people who vote in that government. If you don't vote, you aren't going to get an elected official who represents your interests (unless you forgo voting and there just so happens to be a candidate who represents most/all of your interests, which is probably true for a lot of people anyway).

And ultimately, it's your own responsibility to engage in politics and make informed decisions about voting (or vote, period). Government can make it easier, and the system as it is is undoubtedly stuffed with unnecessarily convoluted procedures and hoops to jump through; it can and should be improved. But that improvement only comes from people put into office by constituents who demand that improvement. And that starts with voting. Which, btw, is only two days out of the year.

And voting online would be a disaster and extremely prone to abuse and hacking. We are a long long way from a safe, secure online voting system.

 

[excelsiorlef]

News Headline: "Bernie Sanders avoids questions on Latin America to talk about the United States"?



That'd be a great news headline as far as disingenuous bullshit goes. He dodged that question in succession with numerous other questions on the region because he didn't want to talk about the politics of that region. He came to speak of the issues of Latin American people inside of country he's running for the Presidency of.



Haha yeah. It actually kinda does when you put it like that.

I don't give a fuck what he came to do.

And btw those questions once again have value to Latin Americans living in America, which has been explained to you several times.

Many Latin Americans have family, or are even themselves immigrants, who have lived or are living in those failed socialist states.

Those people might want to know how his socialism will avoid crashing like it has in those countries.

These are relevant questions and should be the first fucking thing he's able to swiftly answer, given that he's attached the socialist label to himself.

 

[atr0cious]

He came to speak of the issues of Latin American people inside of country he's running for the Presidency of.

My roommate is from New York, but he's also Colombian, and half his family is still there. You think this isn't an issue for him? This is why Bernie is losing, he can't see the forest for the trees.

 

[Prodigal Son]

I don't give a fuck what he came to do.

And btw those questions once again have value to Latin Americans, which has bern explained to you several times.

Many Latin Americans are themselves immigrants or have family who have lived or are living in those failed socialist states.

Those people might want to know how his socialism will avoid crashing like it has in those countries.

These are relevant questions and should be the first fucking thing he's able to swiftly answer, given that he's attached the socialist label to himself.

Like I have said. You are right. He should be willing to answer questions on socialism in south America. What I disagreed with is your takeaway message. Guy dodged every question on the region and your news headline is "Bernie can't explain socialism"? I only take issue with the assumption that he's somehow unable to answer questions on South American socialism.

 

[Blader]

That'd be a great news headline as far as disingenuous bullshit goes. He dodged that question in succession with numerous other questions on the region because he didn't want to talk about the politics of that region. He came to speak of the issues of Latin American people inside of country he's running for the Presidency of.

Those same people don't live in bubble, they have friends and family who live in Latin and South America. What happens in those other countries still carries meaningful consequences for Hispanics in this country.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Like I have said. You are right. He should be willing to answer questions on socialism in south America. What I disagreed with is your takeaway message. Guy dodged every question on the region and your news headline is "Bernie can't explain socialism"? I only take issue with the assumption that he's somehow unable to answer questions on South American socialism.

So your argument is he could have totally answered why his brand if socialism is different and thus won't fail like it did in Latin America, but he just didn't want to?