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ManaByte said:
warlocks draw agro cause of there insane dmg in MC.. -.-
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warlocks draw agro cause of there insane dmg in MC.. -.-
What's 1.7 gonna do for Druids?
Ok, so a lot of Druid people here are saying that IF you use them right, they can easily take just about any class even on their own. I'm a level 17 and I'm really not using bear form... at all. So I'm probably making mistakes. What must one do in order to use the class "properly" so they won't end up complaining that their druid sucks at level 60?
And hell, if my druid kicks ass when I get into the really high levels and people JUST want me for a backup healer, fuck 'em. As a druid I can go from healing to attacking to using magic to bear/cat/whatever form.
And WTF is the purpose of Seal form? To swim faster underwater? I mean WTF? The quest to get it was way too long for what the result is.
Ok, so a lot of Druid people here are saying that IF you use them right, they can easily take just about any class even on their own. I'm a level 17 and I'm really not using bear form... at all. So I'm probably making mistakes. What must one do in order to use the class "properly" so they won't end up complaining that their druid sucks at level 60?
And hell, if my druid kicks ass when I get into the really high levels and people JUST want me for a backup healer, fuck 'em. As a druid I can go from healing to attacking to using magic to bear/cat/whatever form.
And WTF is the purpose of Seal form? To swim faster underwater? I mean WTF? The quest to get it was way too long for what the result is.
the most fun classes are the ones without mana. warrior and rogue (and druid to some extent). this is because they have little to no downtime for mana regen.
the only class with mana that is really 'fun' would have to be the shaman because they can melee decently enough.
since you've already rolled a druid which is pretty much a priest, warrior and rogue in one i'd suggest giving shaman a shot. unless of course you really enjoyed a particular form of the druid's, in which case roll for the class which best matched that form.
the only class with mana that is really 'fun' would have to be the shaman because they can melee decently enough.
since you've already rolled a druid which is pretty much a priest, warrior and rogue in one i'd suggest giving shaman a shot. unless of course you really enjoyed a particular form of the druid's, in which case roll for the class which best matched that form.
TurtleSnatcher
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cat form gets boosts in 1.7 and talent for feral gets boosts in 1.8
You not using bear is the devil, the thing is during the teens its slow with bear but if you go into bear kill the guy go out heal and go back into bear you will regen your mana by the time the guys dead again to reheal so theres little to no downtime..
Your too early to really know much about druids in terms of how good they are at lvl 60.. lets just say they dont die and with innervate/restoration builds its like having 2 mana bars with 7500+ armor in bear + interupts to heal yoursef + natures swiftness + slow dps but will wear most classes out..
7500+ armor depending on your gear when u switch to dire bear form (lvl 40) makes bear form alot better.. then you also get 1280 or so more hp..
btw druids in late game are mainly for off tanking or healing not really dps.. dps there crap..
Seal form is great because it allows you to swim faster and at th esame time in quests that require you to swim alot you wont have a breath meter like a normal human paladin lets say.. Also if your being chased going into seal form is insane cause u can out run them in water..
Also druids are godly at getting out of anything.. if you get mobbed u can travel form if u get wing clipped or hamstrung or entangled or frost nova'd or anything slowing/binding including frost shocked you can morph out and back in and be out of the bind instnatly..
No one can trap a druid unless yuor another druid and can grab a hibernate on the guy.
You not using bear is the devil, the thing is during the teens its slow with bear but if you go into bear kill the guy go out heal and go back into bear you will regen your mana by the time the guys dead again to reheal so theres little to no downtime..
Your too early to really know much about druids in terms of how good they are at lvl 60.. lets just say they dont die and with innervate/restoration builds its like having 2 mana bars with 7500+ armor in bear + interupts to heal yoursef + natures swiftness + slow dps but will wear most classes out..
7500+ armor depending on your gear when u switch to dire bear form (lvl 40) makes bear form alot better.. then you also get 1280 or so more hp..
btw druids in late game are mainly for off tanking or healing not really dps.. dps there crap..
Seal form is great because it allows you to swim faster and at th esame time in quests that require you to swim alot you wont have a breath meter like a normal human paladin lets say.. Also if your being chased going into seal form is insane cause u can out run them in water..
Also druids are godly at getting out of anything.. if you get mobbed u can travel form if u get wing clipped or hamstrung or entangled or frost nova'd or anything slowing/binding including frost shocked you can morph out and back in and be out of the bind instnatly..
No one can trap a druid unless yuor another druid and can grab a hibernate on the guy.
Most Druids I've played with are Restoration spec. They aren't backup healers, they are main healers. In 5-man groups you really get to use much more of your abilities (not just play healer I mean). At least that's been my experience.
Only real problem with Druids right now is damage output, and that should get a nice beef up in the 1.7 patch.
Ps. There are quests that involve going underwater.
Only real problem with Druids right now is damage output, and that should get a nice beef up in the 1.7 patch.
Ps. There are quests that involve going underwater.
Yeah I was in a large group today... Rogues and Warriors are so much faster. They kill the enemies off by the time I get my third of fourth spell in 
Of course I was pretty much along for the ride... they were all lv 23-35 and were fighting enemies at level 20-29. I played healer for sure. But hell, all I had to do was follow them, get the item for the quest and go back, haha.
A bunch of taurens and trolls got in our way, bastards. One Tauren wanted to fight me but I had PvP off, so I got in front of him and started dancing. He was pissed. Stuff like that is so fun. :lol
Anyway, basically it sounds like to be a good druid you have to get used to being in bear or cat form... am I right? I guess you rarely see druids fighting in their night elf or tauren form as they get higher. Right?
But what about spells like nature's grasp, wrath, moonfire, starfire, etc.? These are powerful spells. Wrath with moonfire directly after takes away almost half from an enemy around your lvl... it's impressive, and certainly more useful to me now than being in bear form.
Did you say not using bear is the devil at lower levels or is not because it's too early? I didn't understand that sentence.
Of course I was pretty much along for the ride... they were all lv 23-35 and were fighting enemies at level 20-29. I played healer for sure. But hell, all I had to do was follow them, get the item for the quest and go back, haha.
A bunch of taurens and trolls got in our way, bastards. One Tauren wanted to fight me but I had PvP off, so I got in front of him and started dancing. He was pissed. Stuff like that is so fun. :lol
Anyway, basically it sounds like to be a good druid you have to get used to being in bear or cat form... am I right? I guess you rarely see druids fighting in their night elf or tauren form as they get higher. Right?
But what about spells like nature's grasp, wrath, moonfire, starfire, etc.? These are powerful spells. Wrath with moonfire directly after takes away almost half from an enemy around your lvl... it's impressive, and certainly more useful to me now than being in bear form.
Did you say not using bear is the devil at lower levels or is not because it's too early? I didn't understand that sentence.
krypt0nian
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PezRadar said:
Please point out who bashed druids. One more person acts like druids have been persecuted in this thread, and you win the stupid award.
I don't know if Bear Form is useless at low levels or not, but I remember being kinda disappointed with it as a first-time player and at least thinking that it was useless. I thought it meant that I would be able to blaze through battles more quickly, when the real advantage is not speed but rather the ability to outlast enemies and take on multiple enemies at once. I totally didn't care about or appreciate Bear Form until I started playing Warrior, and realized what the real strategy was supposed to be. A great opener is Starfire-Faerie Fire-Moonfire-Bear/Cat, since it lowers armor, has significant Damage-Over-Time Effects, and puts you in a good place to start melee-ing once they get in close. If you are outside then you can fuck around with Entangling Roots, but I usually don't think that's very fun to do things that way. If you've rooted the enemy you can launch Wrath-after-Wrath, but that means you're just burning mana like crazy and will have to drink something after almost every battle.
Seal/Walrus form is just a nice perk. If you are having trouble with getting it, then just wait until you are a high-enough level to blaze through the quest easy. Before you get travel form it's a pretty easy way to flee from enemies (provided that you are fighting near water). In terms of "running away" skills a Druid is probably the second best class in the game.
Out of curiousity, who do you guys give the advantage to in Druid vs. Mage or Druid vs Priest?
Seal/Walrus form is just a nice perk. If you are having trouble with getting it, then just wait until you are a high-enough level to blaze through the quest easy. Before you get travel form it's a pretty easy way to flee from enemies (provided that you are fighting near water). In terms of "running away" skills a Druid is probably the second best class in the game.
Out of curiousity, who do you guys give the advantage to in Druid vs. Mage or Druid vs Priest?
TurtleSnatcher
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Druid vs Mage = Druid advantage
Druids cant be polymorphed to get a good setup and great burst dmg out a mage needs to prep its casting by polying then going in.. not to mention a druid can feral charge a spell heal himself with a instant heal and shapeshift out of frost shield / Cone of Cold / Frost Bolt.
Druid vs Priest = Druid 75% of the time
Druids cant completly own a priest just by outlasting.. most priests will just dance around SW
and wanding but the dmg a bear can do while u absorb his dmg and force him to use mana will cause him to die.. Shadow priests.. they try to completly bomb you with mind blast / mind flay and fear kiting with an occasional silence.. I'd say a priest can get lucky with blackouts (random stuns) thus winning duels if there shadow, or with tons of crits. Other then.. a druid should win specially a tauren.. With feral charge and natures swiftness and pvp trinket to break out of fear and warstomp and bash and bear heal.. its enough times to get out and heal or get a heal in to force him to burn his mana to 0
Druids cant be polymorphed to get a good setup and great burst dmg out a mage needs to prep its casting by polying then going in.. not to mention a druid can feral charge a spell heal himself with a instant heal and shapeshift out of frost shield / Cone of Cold / Frost Bolt.
Druid vs Priest = Druid 75% of the time
Druids cant completly own a priest just by outlasting.. most priests will just dance around SW
and wanding but the dmg a bear can do while u absorb his dmg and force him to use mana will cause him to die.. Shadow priests.. they try to completly bomb you with mind blast / mind flay and fear kiting with an occasional silence.. I'd say a priest can get lucky with blackouts (random stuns) thus winning duels if there shadow, or with tons of crits. Other then.. a druid should win specially a tauren.. With feral charge and natures swiftness and pvp trinket to break out of fear and warstomp and bash and bear heal.. its enough times to get out and heal or get a heal in to force him to burn his mana to 0I still maintain that if you're the kind of guy who liked playing NES games with a Game Genie and just invincibility turned on for the sake of not having to start a level over again after dying, be a PALADIN.
I have a level 40, and at least up to that point I've been able to consistently solo shit 5 levels above me, which has made it really easy to level at my own pace (being in Japan on an American server makes it kinda hard to play with friends). They have a low DPS, but if they have solid gear and a good Spec, they can outlast almost anything.
Once I got in a duel with a similarly leveled pally in front of booty bay and it was 28 minutes before one of us was dead. Great fun.
I have a level 40, and at least up to that point I've been able to consistently solo shit 5 levels above me, which has made it really easy to level at my own pace (being in Japan on an American server makes it kinda hard to play with friends). They have a low DPS, but if they have solid gear and a good Spec, they can outlast almost anything.
Once I got in a duel with a similarly leveled pally in front of booty bay and it was 28 minutes before one of us was dead. Great fun.
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ManaByte said:
I have a 60 warlock who runs MC weekly, is starting BWL, has every piece of my Felheart but the belt, and yes, it is a fun class to play. Depending on your spec and gear, you will do insane damage. Warlocks can easily be in the top 5 damage dealers in your raid. Does that mean that there aren't problems with class? Of course not. We are in dire need of some sort of defensive/escape ability. Fear is to unrealible since it isn't instant cast and just about everyone in the game can counter it in multiple ways. Shards need tweaked, and we have some bugs that need fixed. Despite this, it is a very rewarding class to play.
Coming from Top 5 guild (Immortality), trust me when I say you don't want to continue to play a druid. They are hardly need in end-game dungeon raids, ie Molten Core, Onyxia, and Blackwing Lair. We only take 2-3 druids out of 40 people. Generally, druids are use as backup healer, emergency rezzer (30 min timer), and mana regen spell for Priest. Forget about doing damage.
In PVP, they are a pain in the ass to kill, but in reverse, with their low dps, takes them forever to kill someone too. That's fine in 1 vs 1 fight because you can outlast people. Too bad, PVP usually involves 1 + alot more, and people could die in seconds. A druid won't be able to kill a person fast enough. Thus, people using kills the druid's friend right away and gang up on him. In a way, Druids have same problem as Pally in PVP.
Save time, re-roll now. If you don't believe me, ask lvl 60 druids who have done end-game dungeons and PVPing.
In PVP, they are a pain in the ass to kill, but in reverse, with their low dps, takes them forever to kill someone too. That's fine in 1 vs 1 fight because you can outlast people. Too bad, PVP usually involves 1 + alot more, and people could die in seconds. A druid won't be able to kill a person fast enough. Thus, people using kills the druid's friend right away and gang up on him. In a way, Druids have same problem as Pally in PVP.
Save time, re-roll now. If you don't believe me, ask lvl 60 druids who have done end-game dungeons and PVPing.
Demigod Mac
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You will melt faces as a shadow priest in PVP.
SiegfriedFM
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MC, Onyxia and BWL are mostly for elitist bastards like this one though. We in SPS of Arathor welcome druids at any level!
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ManaByte said:
No class is "fun" to play in high level instances its a massive coordinated action. Its not like every class is gonna empty out his skill bar during an MC run everyones a flea compared to the mobs in there everyones gotta do their part. So shut up and keep them soulstones coming :lol .
Besides lots of other instances besides MC id take a lock with me anyday, hell as long as I have a healing class Ill take any combo, just did scholo the other day with 3 pallys , a warrior, and a mage and owned it promptly. The real beauty of this game is that if you have healing you can try any regular instance with any group you want, I watched 15 hunters beat UBRS, then not to be outdone 15 priests went in melting faces left and right.
Oh and Shamans are the best class, Hunters most versatile, Warriors have the best gear to twink them out with, and mages have the highest outright dmg from skills. Rogues are now promptly the gimpest class in the game *still not DAOC levels of gimpness!!!*, closely followed by the nuetered paladin class*unless they have unstoppable force then they own!*. Druids are going to be gods soon too perhaps the best in pvp if catform gets the buff i heard it was getting.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patc...sionid=254067EADDC5B66EFA6C5AA956431112.app06DonasaurusRex said:
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1.8 is meant to have the druid's feral talent tree reworked
TurtleSnatcher
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myzhi said:
you sir are stupid
And your asking a lvl 60 druid right here who does endgame mc and BWL... you compete with NO ONE for drops and you can get your set faster then anyone in the guild.. yet this is bad? Druids have the lowest class population in the game so theres already not alot of them..
Leatherface
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ManaByte said:
Besides this statement being complete bs, I must say there is much more to the game then MC and in no way should this effect the overall playability and fun of the class.
btw- someof you are starting to sound like the whine fest on the WOW boards. Everyone wants an "I win" button and cries when their class isn't perfect. Some of you seem to forget what the game is all about. Haven't you learned by now that the perfection you seek will never be a reality? It's fucking hard to balance everything in these games properly. Just enjoy the game for what it is damn it!
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I'm a 60 warlock, I run MC, Ony, etc. and I still love the class. We're the only crowd control class in MC at all (well, except for Domo).
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Juice said:
Just lv 40?
I suggest quiting your paladin while you are ahead then. All the fun is gonna stop soon.
No way, I've already spent way too much time with my Druid, I'm not doing anything else till I get him to at least 40-60 and we do raids and stuff. It almost sounds like some people are too arrogant to understand the advantages of Druids. So, since you're in a top 5 guild, what do you suggest I try next?myzhi said:
Basically every class in the game is super fun except priest.
My first char was a paladin, and before the nerf she could kill pretty much anything - five levels above me, have four friends? No problem. After the nerf. . .well, I had already rerolled a priest cuz my tiny guild badly needed one.
NOTE: I was not a shadow priest. A shadow priest is just a mage with a crappy graphic and no AoE. Sure, they are good in PvP, but everywhere else? Useless.
Whatever you do, do not play a healing or discipline priest. Doing so is what made me quit the game, eventually. I had been to every dungeon in the game, and do you know I could not point them out to you by graphical differences? Do you know what dungeons look like to a lvl 60 priest? Health bars. If it is a raid, we are talking about 15-20 health bars (thanks so much, CTraid). I seriously couldn't have named the bosses in the different zones, or picked most of them out by appearance.
Tack on the fact that WoW capitulated to the fucking whiny rogues "waaaa priests can beat me pvp, take away their crowd control pls", and you get a class that is pretty much neutered to a healbot. I love how people need priests to do anything and then turn around on the boards and whine about how priests don't need secondary abilities because "they already heal better than anyone in the game!" Yeah, assclown, I pay $15 a month so I can heal frantically because you don't know how to control your aggro.
Don't. do. it. I have never had less fun playing a class in any MMORPG.
My first char was a paladin, and before the nerf she could kill pretty much anything - five levels above me, have four friends? No problem. After the nerf. . .well, I had already rerolled a priest cuz my tiny guild badly needed one.
NOTE: I was not a shadow priest. A shadow priest is just a mage with a crappy graphic and no AoE. Sure, they are good in PvP, but everywhere else? Useless.
Whatever you do, do not play a healing or discipline priest. Doing so is what made me quit the game, eventually. I had been to every dungeon in the game, and do you know I could not point them out to you by graphical differences? Do you know what dungeons look like to a lvl 60 priest? Health bars. If it is a raid, we are talking about 15-20 health bars (thanks so much, CTraid). I seriously couldn't have named the bosses in the different zones, or picked most of them out by appearance.
Tack on the fact that WoW capitulated to the fucking whiny rogues "waaaa priests can beat me pvp, take away their crowd control pls", and you get a class that is pretty much neutered to a healbot. I love how people need priests to do anything and then turn around on the boards and whine about how priests don't need secondary abilities because "they already heal better than anyone in the game!" Yeah, assclown, I pay $15 a month so I can heal frantically because you don't know how to control your aggro.
Don't. do. it. I have never had less fun playing a class in any MMORPG.
Of All Trades
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You did when you called druids mid-range healers.krypt0nian said:
You aren't even 20 yet, you could easily start a new character. That said, ignore him and keep playing druid. Hopefully cat form will be improved by the time you get it, or that the feral tree will be improved to make it worthwhile (or maybe they'll actually unfuck balance). For the time being, though, you are playing a healer class with some nifty secondary abilities like prowl and de/buffs. Get used to healing and being invited to lots of groups.
krypt0nian
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Of All Trades said:
That's bashing Druids?! LOL
Most are mid-range healers. God some of you are hyper-sensitive. Stay off of the WoW boards - its making you fraking nuts.
Read the rest of my posts defending and explaining them. You cry wolf way too much.
You were warned:
Diablos said:
1) You are not even lvl 30. Hardly what people could call "too much time." You are about 1/3 to lvl 60. It's your call. Just warning you know.
2) Either people are arrogant or you don't understand end-game uses for your class. Sorry, but it's the later. As you lvl, you will see that it will take you longer and longer to kill stuff. As a rogue kills 5 NPC, you will still be on 1st mob. Soloing will be painful experience. End-game, you will end up probably being a backup healer. We only take2-3 druids since we got plenty of priest for healing. As for tanking, warriors in epic >>> druids in bear form.
3) Already, posted earlier. A mage. Useful in PVE: Polymorph (crowd control), magic removal, long range damage (major plus), and agro control (iceblock). Alot of end-bosses have AoE damage = bad for melee and not tauntable / removes threat level = need agro control classes. Not to mention, powerful in PVP. One of the few class that's good at both.
PezRadar said:
There's a reason why they are low population. Not very useful in end-game PVE and PVP, would probably explain it. Guess, there's a bright side, you'll get loot since there's nobody else to take it. Druids epics do drop often, and even though we bring 2-3 to raids, they are pretty much fully deck in epic gear. We have been bringing recruits just so epics don't get disenchanted.
You know ... if you don't like raiding, you don't have to do it. You don't actually have to have to play a character to 60, raid for your set, then head to molten core and stay there until you get a full epic set. You could get to 60, raid a little, but spend most of your time doing dire maul east, west and north. 5-man scholo, 5-man strath, 5-man LBRS and intemix that with an alt, or two. I say this because 5-man instances require each person to be more than just be a heal bot, or a pez dispenser and there's less chance of you burning out, or ending up hating your class.
*shrugs*
*shrugs*
I said I was in a tiny guild. The raids we did were impromptu to get our members their set pieces.
Every night of the week we were 5-manning challening content. Scholo, Strat, all of Mauradon in our 40s (longest.dungeon.ever), Dire Maul, upper and lower BRS. . . It was fun, and you are right, it did keep me from being burned out for about six months.
I think I got fed up when I would log on my rogue and get snippy comments in guildchat about how fun it would be to do a dungeon w/my priest, and got made fun of for stopping in the middle of one late night scholo run and saying "hey. . .where are we again?"
The game does not reward selfless playing by priests at all. I am lucky I had a good guild that defaulted mana regen equips to me, because priest only loot was practically non existent when I left. Oh, dire maul was touted as the spellcaster's armor store, but I saw nothing priest specific on 20+ trips there.
It just wasn't fun. I've played some MMORPGs in my day, I'm well aware of what all you can do in them.
Every night of the week we were 5-manning challening content. Scholo, Strat, all of Mauradon in our 40s (longest.dungeon.ever), Dire Maul, upper and lower BRS. . . It was fun, and you are right, it did keep me from being burned out for about six months.
I think I got fed up when I would log on my rogue and get snippy comments in guildchat about how fun it would be to do a dungeon w/my priest, and got made fun of for stopping in the middle of one late night scholo run and saying "hey. . .where are we again?"
The game does not reward selfless playing by priests at all. I am lucky I had a good guild that defaulted mana regen equips to me, because priest only loot was practically non existent when I left. Oh, dire maul was touted as the spellcaster's armor store, but I saw nothing priest specific on 20+ trips there.
It just wasn't fun. I've played some MMORPGs in my day, I'm well aware of what all you can do in them.
myzhi said:PVE world accomplishments. Go check out Blizz "Raid and Dungeon" forum.
That, still, fails to prove your point. Your guild isn't even mentioned anywhere on that forum. I'm not doubting the skill of your guild it just seems like you are pulling a number out of your ass with no valid proof to your claim.
Kewk said:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-dungeons&t=126755&p=1&tmp=1#post126755
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-dungeons&t=124217&p=1&tmp=1#post124217
We don't brag about our accomplishments. You need to look around. Only Fury and us have seen Nefarion (BWL end boss).
TurtleSnatcher
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myzhi said:
Yes innervate and dual stacking heal over times is worthless in late game boss fights not to mention decursing in MC, so what.. your gonna have your main dps decurse literally 24/7 in boss fights in MC (mages)
What the hell are you smoking? Thats not why druids are low population too.. there low population because they have access to 1 race on each side and thats it.. not everyone wants to be NE/Tauren
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Umpteen said:
I whole-heartidly disagree, well up until level 38 which is as far as I've gotten. I've gotten my Shadow Priest up there, and it's a blast. Crappy mage with no AOE? Okay, but I'm shielding and healing and having a blast in instances, and barely touch my Holy spells.
Your problem is you let other people dictate how you play. They said "Priest should do this." you say "Okay!". Fuck that. If you're not having fun, which it's obvious you weren't, do something else with your class or play a different one or don't play it at all. There are plenty of people in WoW playing, a few times I didn't get into a group because I was shadow spec, other times they took me just because I could heal and were more than pleased with my performances. Maybe it'll suck when I get to the end game, but then I'll just do something else with WoW or quit playing.
That's the one thing I hate about MMORPGs, everyone's all "Go optimal, optimal build, optimal gear" Fuck that noise. I'll play to an extent however I want, and I always find people who aren't as closed minded. And when those people are gone, so am I.
I enjoy the shit out of my Undead Mage. My greatest battles have been PVP BG at my lowly lvl 35 up against Warriors, Rogues, Warlocks and other Mages at lvl 40. Sure I get a beating when there are two or three of them, but 1v1, look out.
The best one was up against a lvl 40 Human Warrior, got his health down to 1% before he ran into the Undead Priest protecting the tunnel with me.
The best one was up against a lvl 40 Human Warrior, got his health down to 1% before he ran into the Undead Priest protecting the tunnel with me.
I highly recommend the warrior.
I got my Dwarf up to 60, and he was, as they say, 'uber'.
Warriors are 100% necessary, and almost all of the gameplay involved is FUN.
PVP is cake, as you will be able to crush rogues with little problem, with the right build,
and as of the time I left the game 90% of the games pop was one type of rogue or another.
Mages however will kill you 90% of the time
but they really are the only ones.
I was pvp ranked real high on my server, and my records against every class was overwhelming onesided in my favor. Save for them dang Mages.
Raiding is fun, and Ive pulled more than a few.
Plus its up to other people to keep you alive, all you need to worry about is keeping agro, and that is a breeze.
If you get a sap to play a healer for you, there isnt much stuff that is like level that you wont be able to kill.
I got my Dwarf up to 60, and he was, as they say, 'uber'.
Warriors are 100% necessary, and almost all of the gameplay involved is FUN.
PVP is cake, as you will be able to crush rogues with little problem, with the right build,
and as of the time I left the game 90% of the games pop was one type of rogue or another.
Mages however will kill you 90% of the time
but they really are the only ones. I was pvp ranked real high on my server, and my records against every class was overwhelming onesided in my favor. Save for them dang Mages.
Raiding is fun, and Ive pulled more than a few.
Plus its up to other people to keep you alive, all you need to worry about is keeping agro, and that is a breeze.
If you get a sap to play a healer for you, there isnt much stuff that is like level that you wont be able to kill.
RevenantKioku said:
This is why you wholeheartedly disagree.
I played a lvl 60 priest. I respecced between shadow and disc/holy at least twice in the vain hopes I could inject the class with some fun.
You know all those rabid shadow priests on the board saying they heal just as well as holy priests? Well, they are full of shit, or low level. I tried being a (partial!!) shadow healer at lvl 60, I ran out of mana in the middle of any fight with adds. As a 60 shadow priest you are at your absolute best 2/3 a healer, and that just doesn't cut it when you are five manning Dire Maul east/north - or basically any other dungeon.
RevenantKioku
PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Umpteen said:
I don't, because I don't read WoW forums. I just play the game.
*shrug* I've been doing fine and having fun so far. When that ends, I end it too. That's all.
PezRadar said:
Dude, I already mention what druids does end-game in my previous posts, innervate = mana regen for mainly priest, stacking healing = backup healing unless you want to agrue that Druids are better at healing then a Priest, and decursing = plenty with amount of mages we bring. If you are happy being a secondary needed class, good for you. In order of our raid needs, priest, warriors, mages, ...., and coming in usually last, druids.
What are you smoking? If you love playing the class, great, but maybe new people should check out Blizz druid forum and see why people are complaining about the sad class. There's a reason why druids have been getting so many buffs in the recent patches. Druids are slowly improving, but still needs alot more.
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myzhi said:
o god.. are you on the test server? if not copy over.. and duel me.. Ill be glad to school you with my druid w/o using cat form and the new changes in that server..
They are fine as it is, the cat fixes are nice ill admit and are needed but were okay before then.. to say they suck in end game raids is bs too.. there HoT's are better then any priests and can be primary healers for alot of things, Sorry but never heard of your stupid guild either.. i dont recall it being so damn god and mighty compared to everyone elses
PezRadar said:
1) Do you read? Already, stated that druids are good in 1 vs 1 situation because they can outlast people, kinda like a pally. As a rogue, hard to beat a pally or druid in duel environment because I have to pretty much beat them down 3+ life bars, but everyone knows "real" PVP is a totally different beast. In that environment, they are usually my last targets. Why try to kill them 1st by yourself when they are the least threat with their pathetic weak damage. Just quickly kill their friends and gang up on him / her.
2) Just to be clear, in your guild, you would take a druid over a priest for end-game raids?
3) Once again, we don't brag / post about our accomplishments, but if you look around at world 1st achievements, you'll see our name mention by others. How about checking 2 sample links I posted above?