Beer Monkey
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Crackerman16 said:
No charges have appeared on my Amex. Ha!
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BestBuy.com PS3 Preorders. "here is a coupon for your troubles PWNED LOL"
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No charges have appeared on my Amex. Ha!
SaggyMonkey
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chespace said:
WORLD DOM, FTW! LOLZ
frAntic_Frog
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yep...this is one legal glitch alrite.......a "glitch" that apparently can deduct from your checking account (for all those BB defenders in this thread)ethelred said:
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
wait, has everyone had their orders cancelled? im not at home so i can't check. is the deal officially dead?
typhonsentra
Banned
Mine's still alive too.
So by "not cancelled," do you guys mean that you've actually gotten confirmation emails from BB.com saying that your preorder has gone through and that you'll get the PS3 come 11/17?
I got two emails essentially saying that my PS3 was backordered so they'll send it as soon as it's in stock but they took money out of my account anyways. This could potentially be awful if they just take my money with the intention of sending me a PS3 when resupplies come in, which could be months and months away.
I got two emails essentially saying that my PS3 was backordered so they'll send it as soon as it's in stock but they took money out of my account anyways. This could potentially be awful if they just take my money with the intention of sending me a PS3 when resupplies come in, which could be months and months away.
typhonsentra
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chespace said:So by "not cancelled," do you guys mean that you've actually gotten confirmation emails from BB.com saying that your preorder has gone through and that you'll get the PS3 come 11/17?
I got two emails essentially saying that my PS3 was backordered so they'll send it as soon as it's in stock but they took money out of my account anyways. This could potentially be awful if they just take my money with the intention of sending me a PS3 when resupplies come in, which could be months and months away.
The last email I got about the PS3 was a confirmation of my preorder on 11/4. I just checked the order status a few minutes ago and it was still there.
By not cancelled, we mean the order status says we still have a preorder and it is not backordered. Which is where I fall in as well
But people have already talked to this "Tony" dude from corporate and apparantly all orders are gonna be cancelled soon...sooooooo...
But people have already talked to this "Tony" dude from corporate and apparantly all orders are gonna be cancelled soon...sooooooo...
chespace said:So by "not cancelled," do you guys mean that you've actually gotten confirmation emails from BB.com saying that your preorder has gone through and that you'll get the PS3 come 11/17?
I got two emails essentially saying that my PS3 was backordered so they'll send it as soon as it's in stock but they took money out of my account anyways. This could potentially be awful if they just take my money with the intention of sending me a PS3 when resupplies come in, which could be months and months away.
I got a confirmation email that my order was in processing right when I placed it. No more than that. The only update I've gotten since then was a change of UL's release date to the 17th.
mashoutposse
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beermonkey@tehbias said:
Damn, I hope so. Platinum member here with a few million points under my belt.
sonarrat said:
Alright, well I suppose I'm going to wait a day or so before calling BB.com and asking for them to credit my money back. I can probably get the PS3 in a way that does not require me lending BB.com $671 interest-free dollars.
Very lame all around.
FrenchMovieTheme
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so if we "murder" "tony", the orders cant be cancelled?
Whoa whoa whoa......if this was just some random error why were initial people (myself included, but I only ordered 1) able to add multiple consoles to the shopping cart but later you were limited to 1 per customer? This literally happened on the fly during this whole thing so someone must have been at the controls to make that change. Anyone else curious about that? Also, my order has yet to be cancelled.
hyp
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Beer Monkey
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bracer028 said:
What kind of f*cking TV or radio ad did you hear about this?
i just dug out my contracts Law class outline from last year
Misrepresentation: a misrepresentation is an assertion not in accord with the facts. Even if made innocently, ignorantly, or carelessly, it is still misrepresentation.
a. Misrepresentation to an assertion of facts can be an opinion; opinion being:
1) a belief, without certainty, as to the existence of a fact; or
2) a judgment as to quality, value, authenticity or similar matters.
b. An opinion can be considered misrepresentation if the person relying on it:
1) stands in a relation of trust and confidence with the speaker or
2) reasonable believes that the speaker has a special skill, judgment of objectivity or
3) for some other reason the recipient is particularly susceptible.
Restatement: it deals with the legal consequences of misrepresentations, but misrepresentation can occur through either assertions, concealments, or non-disclosures. What are the consequences of a misrepresentation? Under R2d §164: If a partys assent is induced by either a fraudulent or a material misrepresentation by the other party upon which the recipient [of the assertion] is justified in relying, the K is voidable by the recipient. The elements of voiding a K because of misrepresentation therefore are:
a. Fraud or Materiality of the misrepresentation; and
b. Justifiable Reliance on the misrepresentation.
we all tell this to the best buy representative....they will be scared the shit outta them. No CSR or supervisor will be able to answer this. Especially "tony"
Misrepresentation: a misrepresentation is an assertion not in accord with the facts. Even if made innocently, ignorantly, or carelessly, it is still misrepresentation.
a. Misrepresentation to an assertion of facts can be an opinion; opinion being:
1) a belief, without certainty, as to the existence of a fact; or
2) a judgment as to quality, value, authenticity or similar matters.
b. An opinion can be considered misrepresentation if the person relying on it:
1) stands in a relation of trust and confidence with the speaker or
2) reasonable believes that the speaker has a special skill, judgment of objectivity or
3) for some other reason the recipient is particularly susceptible.
Restatement: it deals with the legal consequences of misrepresentations, but misrepresentation can occur through either assertions, concealments, or non-disclosures. What are the consequences of a misrepresentation? Under R2d §164: If a partys assent is induced by either a fraudulent or a material misrepresentation by the other party upon which the recipient [of the assertion] is justified in relying, the K is voidable by the recipient. The elements of voiding a K because of misrepresentation therefore are:
a. Fraud or Materiality of the misrepresentation; and
b. Justifiable Reliance on the misrepresentation.
we all tell this to the best buy representative....they will be scared the shit outta them. No CSR or supervisor will be able to answer this. Especially "tony"
aorange999
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I have an order in too, when I first looked at it I could order multiple consoles but I figured it was a glitch then after checking here, I realized that it might actually work. I logged in again and the text had changed to say only 1 console per user this was at about 1230 EST.
I work in a web app shop and I know for sure that means that someone was in control of changing that text, it was not automated. Right there I figured it was for real and plugged in my CC. I checked 2 minutes ago and it still says in process?? I am crossing my fingers I had ruled out the PS3 for the next six months cos I couldn't be bothered to camp or anything like that but this was too convenient to pass up.
I work in a web app shop and I know for sure that means that someone was in control of changing that text, it was not automated. Right there I figured it was for real and plugged in my CC. I checked 2 minutes ago and it still says in process?? I am crossing my fingers I had ruled out the PS3 for the next six months cos I couldn't be bothered to camp or anything like that but this was too convenient to pass up.
aorange999 said:
I guess that confirms they made the change quickly and knew about the pre-orders. That also means if they could make that change that they could surely stop accepting orders quickly if they wanted to as well. Apparently they didn't, but I guess we wait for official cancellation now.
aorange999
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unomas said:
Totally, thats why I think there is more to this than just a glitch. Someone could have easily pulled the plug, in a matter of minutes.
If not ...that would mean that once the traffic spike was noticed, someone looked to see where the traffic was going looked at the page left it for about 45 minutes or so to see what to do, was told to change it to 1 per customer instead of just pulling the plug.
I think the glitch was in not limiting the page to one per customer and so they will have to deal with all the multiple console purchasers and all their possible ire. Instead of trying to be selective they will probably now just cancel everyone and maybe run the preorder to select customers or something, and I will once again be stuck with no PS3 until sometime next year
aorange999 said:Totally, thats why I think there is more to this than just a glitch. Someone could have easily pulled the plug, in a matter of minutes.
If not ...that would mean that once the traffic spike was noticed, someone looked to see where the traffic was going looked at the page left it for about 45 minutes or so to see what to do, was told to change it to 1 per customer instead of just pulling the plug.
I think the glitch was in not limiting the page to one per customer and so they will have to deal with all the multiple console purchasers and all their possible ire. Instead of trying to be selective they will probably now just cancel everyone and maybe run the preorder to select customers or something, and I will once again be stuck with no PS3 until sometime next year
I guess that sucks for everyone that people ordered anywhere from 2-12 and now because of that the rest of us get screwed. I'm still waiting for Best Buy to drop the hammer, as of right now I can still link to the best buy page showing my pre-order and showing a 11/17 release date.
whatdidyousay
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Vard said:
I want my goddamn money back now if this is really not happening.
i just called CSR and the person told me that they aren't going to honor the online pre-order, however, they are giving the people that pre-ordered a discount/store credit of $25 for each customer that ordered. Sorry for those who ordered 20 ps3s...you only get one discount
Beer Monkey
Member
unomas said:
Yeah, they would have let you all keep your systems if nobody had ordered more than one.
Ha ha you were getting a PS3 but I ruined it for you.
bracer028 said:
I just called my congressman. Call yours immediately, then your Senators and your Governor. No justice no peace!
WickedAngel
Banned
So they're willing to eat $250,000 instead of getting $6,000,000 in sales?
Most of the early adopters for this thing aren't going to be making Best Buy any money anyways (Expect to see PS3s on eBay in record numbers at launch).
We should all rate them on resellerratings.com as well.
Most of the early adopters for this thing aren't going to be making Best Buy any money anyways (Expect to see PS3s on eBay in record numbers at launch).
We should all rate them on resellerratings.com as well.
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