GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
The real reason they went under is because I started a thread about it the day before on Neogaf and obviously someone at Google was listening.
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Bethesda Acquisition by Microsoft Factored Into Stadia Studios Shutdown
Chukhopops
Member
Deathloop was announced as a PS5 console exclusive five months before Stadia even launched, how does the timeline even make sense?Ghostwire and Deathloop both launched on PC and PS5 at the same time
Speculation but MS could have blocked the launch for Stadia as it's a competitive cloud platform for all we know.
You're saying there was somehow plans for a Stadia version that Sony was ok with and MS blocked?
sainraja
Member
It doesn't necessarily mean Google would have acquired them. They may have tried to establish marketing deals, other exclusivity deals or simply counted on their content being available on the platform.
MS were honoring the contract signed before they acquired Bethesda when it comes Deathloop. When it comes to the cloud, well, MS is investing heavily into it due to Game Pass so its a likely scenario that they might try to block it and he did say he was speculating....not that there were any established plans. The question you are asking has already been answered in how he started his statement.
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JLB
Banned
Stadia and Major should never me used on the same sentence.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Microsoft may have saved gaming by killing off Stadia with the Bethesda purchase
Oddvintagechap
Banned
I am so confused by Google.
They literally didn't try. Gaffers think Stadia failed from the merits, but Google was extremely passive in its efforts, its baffling.
They literally didn't try. Gaffers think Stadia failed from the merits, but Google was extremely passive in its efforts, its baffling.
Nobody said Sony blocks all games from GP, that's blatant insecurity projection and a bad attempt at a strawman. Also, there were more things listed under RE8 on those documents right below that were redacted; the only reason RE8 was publicly mentioned was because it was already public due to the Epic case (which Sony fought hard to not be shown in public but failed). You want to talk about things not being "far-fetched" yet ignore the likely possibility that there can be other games besides RE8 being blocked? That's why you strawman it and say "all" games. Transparent as glass.
The best thing about the OP are the rats who don't understand what they're reading and take a false victory lap only to get visibly upset and shaken that no media is reporting this and no big gaming forums are talking about it. I already see a usual suspect on Twitter claiming MS paid the media and influencers to keep hush about this and that's why nobody is talking about it
and not the real reason, that the article was written in February 2021 and there are no actual quotes or proof in the article. Not to mention that nobody with working brain cells took Stadia seriously with their multitude after multitude of terrible business moves, but hey, desperate times call for desperate measures. 
They had some of their own games on Stadia but were paying to block... other publishers from releasing games on Stadia? Please, enlighten us with some of these games you speak of. Not surprising that you literally think this, though.
Chukhopops
Member
I understand it's speculation but it still needs to make sense as a theory. Nothing indicates there ever was a Stadia version of the games Sony moneyhatted since it never was announced, even prior to the MS purchase.
It's possible that Google was interested in buying Bethesda at some point and MS outbid them or was simply faster - but I personally doubt Google was willing to gamble 7.5 bn on Stadia.
Iced Arcade
Member
called it.
thank you xbox and sony for acquiring these studios for consoles
thank you xbox and sony for acquiring these studios for consoles
R3claimer117
Member
Lol people working overtime to stop an acquisition 
lol ! Recycling old articles is refreshing imagine a company you dot care for or doesn't have games living rent free in your head.
lol ! Recycling old articles is refreshing imagine a company you dot care for or doesn't have games living rent free in your head.
GhostOfTsu
Banned
It wasn't their games. Stuff like Rage 2 was there since 2019, Doom and Doom Eternal were announced in 2020. The contracts were already done.
The rest is your usual psychotic rants I won't bother this time. Peace
JackMcGunns
Member
Why isn't Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo on Stadia, pray tell?
damn MS always killing their competitors!The rest is your usual psychotic rants I won't bother this time. Peace
You "won't bother" as per usual because you got exposed and have no retort so you run with your tail between your legs to troll the next thread. Peace
Hosam6xavi
Banned
It's too early for cloud gaming.
Internet infrastructure around the world will not be ready for more than 5+ years.
Give me the service as an option like Xcloud.
Internet infrastructure around the world will not be ready for more than 5+ years.
Give me the service as an option like Xcloud.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Celebrating less competition?...the FTC wants to have a chat with you.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FTC gonna have to work double overtime to convince people that Stadia was ever close to being competition.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Even less with MS acquisitions. Is so unfair and inadequate.
TLZ
Banned
Really? Lol. I think we're all shocked it lasted this long.
Like moths to a flame:
The best thing about the OP are the rats who don't understand what they're reading and take a false victory lap only to get visibly upset and shaken that no media is reporting this and no big gaming forums are talking about it. I already see a usual suspect on Twitter claiming MS paid the media and influencers to keep hush about this and that's why nobody is talking about it
ssringo
Member
GhostOfTsu
Banned
Phil Spencer: "We see Amazon and Google as the main competitors"
As Microsoft continues its shift into game streaming and digital-only, Xbox boss Phil Spencer says PlayStation and Nint…
www.gamesindustry.biz
Stadia = Google
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nominedomine
Banned
There's no audience for it, how many times will this have to be proven? You can literally start playing on xCloud right now for $1 in most of the world, yet hardly anyone is doing it.
Turns out that the people who actually want to play console type games buy their hardware. People that don't have enough interest to buy the hardware don't even want to play these games.
Maybe if 5g with no data caps was cheap and available to most people those that right now play trash games on mobile would want to play trashy games over the cloud. That's about it.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Not in this context, but you're welcome to believe that to further a specific narrative. He's specifically talking about a cloud infrastructure, not Stadia, which was only out a few weeks at the time of that interview.
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GhostOfTsu
Banned
You can't be serious. Customers can't subscribe directly to Azure or AWS to play games.
Google Cloud = Stadia
Azure = xCloud
AWS = Luna
So yes he was talking about Google reaching 7 billion gamers through Stadia.
nominedomine
Banned
Now they just need to save us from Microsoft.
To be fair, they are doing a great job at that as well with how they handle the Xbox.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
He's literally talking about competing in cloud infrastructure.
Regardless, Stadia is dead now and mostly in part to their own actions like turning down known developers. Bethesda's acquisition happened less than 1 year after Stadia launched, it wouldn't have been a factor in the reception Stadia got.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Google is used to gaming revenue being low effort (play store), they didn't want to put actual effort in.
Good riddance.
Good riddance.
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Stadia closure = negative implications now? I thought people were celebrating
GhostOfTsu
Banned
Ok so he was talking about Google Cloud only (NOT Stadia) but how can customers play games on Google Cloud without Stadia?
The article also mentions GP subscribers, Sony and Nintendo. All customer-facing stuff. It's not about the backend cloud infrastructure only.
He said it again in 2022 after the Acti deal anyway so it wasn't the only source.
Xbox boss says Facebook and Amazon are its main gaming competitors
Phil Spencer is concerned about tech giants trying to muscle in
Maybe one day your posts will make sense
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Most people are, but then you have folks like our friend
GhostOfTsu
who doesn't leave any opportunity to turn any news into anti MS/Phil, such as this thread 
Imagine taking an interview done a few weeks after Stadia launched, where its name isn't used by Spencer as some kind of indication that it was considered primary competition. Let alone the last few years where Stadia barely put up a viable footprint to even be considered competition to any of the primary gaming platforms in the first place. It has had the same level of impact as an Ouya all things considered.
PS:
Luna didn't launch until 10 months after that article. Unless Phil has incredible clairvoyance, he is not talking about Amazon Luna 10 months before it was a thing, just like he doesn't mention Stadia even once. in the article where he's talking about cloud infrastructure and name dropping Azure:
"As Microsoft continues its shift into game streaming and digital-only, Xbox boss Phil Spencer says PlayStation and Nintendo are no longer the platform's main contenders."
The deflection you're doing is absolutely mind boggling.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Is it more or less mind boggling than the deflection of trying to put Stadia closing down on Microsoft ?
Oh, funny story on that. The Kotaku article that the OP's article is quoting says this:
The hyperlinked piece there with the "reported at that time" has absolutely no mention of Bethesda at all.
Google Stadia Shuts Down Internal Studios, Changing Business Focus
Google Stadia, the late 2019 streaming platform that promised to revolutionize gaming by letting users stream games without needing to own a powerful PC or console, is altering course, getting out of the game-making business and will now offer its platform directly to game publishers alongside...
kotaku.com
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ResilientBanana
Member
Bethesda wasn't going to save that shit show. You had to buy games at full price that you couldn't ever download and play. Fuck that shit with a studded dildo. Whoever thought that was a great idea should be fired and forbidden to come up with any ideas ever again. In fact, it was such a bad idea that we should give that person and all another people that agreed to it shovels to bury their careers.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Look at the absolute stupidity Trup1aya posted on this topic on Reset:
Before you type BS, learn that Geforce Now can be signed up to for FREE; you don't need to pay for an account.
Secondly, if they were able to reach 20 million users without buying a developer, why does Microsoft need to buy two massive publishers to maybe reach 50 million GamePass subs?
Oh, is it because you have to pay for GamePass? Like how you had to PAY for Stadia? Would that suggest, then, that for paid services you maybe HAVE to buy developers and/or publishers? And if that is the case, Google's claim of MS's aggressive buy of publishers like Zenimax/Bethesda basically pushing them out of the market, has some validity?
But I get it, dude. We know how you play this game, so you'll never look at the flaws of your own arguments.
Before you type BS, learn that Geforce Now can be signed up to for FREE; you don't need to pay for an account.
Secondly, if they were able to reach 20 million users without buying a developer, why does Microsoft need to buy two massive publishers to maybe reach 50 million GamePass subs?
Oh, is it because you have to pay for GamePass? Like how you had to PAY for Stadia? Would that suggest, then, that for paid services you maybe HAVE to buy developers and/or publishers? And if that is the case, Google's claim of MS's aggressive buy of publishers like Zenimax/Bethesda basically pushing them out of the market, has some validity?
But I get it, dude. We know how you play this game, so you'll never look at the flaws of your own arguments.
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SportsFan581
Member
This. If anything, Stadia's failure should point out how nascent the cloud gaming space is. There isn't a single case yet that has proven the market is viable on its own standing (as a game distribution platform - Geforce Now is a separate thing). Typically regulators avoid meddling in markets that are just forming, out of fear they could kill the emerging market outright.
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drganon
Member
Be careful thicc. Reading too much on resetera can be harmful to one's mental facilities.
I don't even know what you're talking about now but I suspect it again has no relevance to what was being discussed and is another deflection to a different point.Is it more or less mind boggling than the deflection of trying to put Stadia closing down on Microsoft ?
Oh, funny story on that. The Kotaku article that the OP's article is quoting says this:
The hyperlinked piece there with the "reported at that time" has absolutely no mention of Bethesda at all.
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Then ghost provided an article that directly quoted Phil Spencer saying he considered Amazon's and Google's game streaming and digital content store/delivery as the competition and not Nintendo and Sony.
But now you're working doubly overtime to suggest he wasn't referring to Google's Stadia or Amazon's Luna (for obvious reasons) . Even when it's pretty clear and it's mentioned in the artcle.
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GhostOfTsu
Banned
I'm not even sure what you're arguing about. Phil made several mentions of Google and called them his main competition for cloud gaming. It was talked about at length here and everywhere.Most people are, but then you have folks like our friend
Imagine taking an interview done a few weeks after Stadia launched, where its name isn't used by Spencer as some kind of indication that it was considered primary competition. Let alone the last few years where Stadia barely put up a viable footprint to even be considered competition to any of the primary gaming platforms in the first place. It has had the same level of impact as an Ouya all things considered.
PS:
Luna didn't launch until 10 months after that article. Unless Phil has incredible clairvoyance, he is not talking about Amazon Luna 10 months before it was a thing, just like he doesn't mention Stadia even once. in the article where he's talking about cloud infrastructure and name dropping Azure:
Now you want to pretend he wasn't talking about cloud gaming. They were actually competing for the cloud servers in the backend when you play Fortnite or whatever?
Yeah I'm sure they bought Activision because they wanted them to use Azure for their servers instead of Google Cloud.
DeliciousDoc
Member
If stadia thought that Skyrim in space was going to save them from their terrible idea and terrible marketshare they didn't learn anything from this project.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
He was talking about a cloud infrastructure where only Google and Amazon can rival MS's Azure. Once again, at the point of that interview, Stadia was barely a thing and Luna wasn't out, neither of those platforms were a factor in his quote, it was talking about the backbone structure to run a cloud based service.
But you're really going down the hill that Stadia closing is primarily MS's fault, without any corroborating evidence, or even an actual quote from anyone saying as such, huh ?
Which part of any of the articles implies that Stadia was enough of a competition for FTC to have hypothetically taken notice exactly, since we're talking about original quotes ?
Please highlight the specific portion you think shows that.
It's all Phil Spencer's fault you see, why ? Because.
Some people are just desperate and hoping this somehow stops the Activision acquisition. Even though realistically MS had nothing to do with Stadia's failure.Is it more or less mind boggling than the deflection of trying to put Stadia closing down on Microsoft ?
Oh, funny story on that. The Kotaku article that the OP's article is quoting says this:
The hyperlinked piece there with the "reported at that time" has absolutely no mention of Bethesda at all.
Google Stadia Shuts Down Internal Studios, Changing Business Focus
Google Stadia, the late 2019 streaming platform that promised to revolutionize gaming by letting users stream games without needing to own a powerful PC or console, is altering course, getting out of the game-making business and will now offer its platform directly to game publishers alongside...