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Better Call Saul S2 |OT| The Truth Is Just A Point Of View - Mondays 10/9c

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Brainfreeze said:
Over more than just that. He's listed a million reasons over the course of the show.
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Well, the ones off the top of my head:

-Slippin' Jimmy
-Stealing money from their father (to pay for his law school that he doesn't know)
-Not being there for his mom's death
-Thinking he doesn't make a good lawyer because of Slippin' Jimmy/breaking the law.

But it's mostly that one and family issues that make Chuck resent Jimmy.
 
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HoJu

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Liked the episode, but kinda disappointed by the recorder reveal. Hoped the Chuck vs. Jimmy would see some sort of conclusion.
 
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zewone said:
Why is Gus randomly in the desert behind Mike at the perfect time? Tell me how that makes sense.
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Well obviously Gus wasn't strolling through the desert and randomly saw his car. Mike was followed.he was probably being watched whenever he was watching the cartel.
 
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HoJu said:
Liked the episode, but kinda disappointed by the recorder reveal. Hoped the Chuck vs. Jimmy would see some sort of conclusion.
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I think the conclusion of chuck vs jimmy will be the conclusion of jimmy in general. They're probably the same event and this definitely laid the groundwork for it.
 
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zewone said:
Why is Gus randomly in the desert behind Mike at the perfect time? Tell me how that makes sense.
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im guessing gus had his eyes on mike since he got involved with nacho

either gus and nacho have been working together from the start or gus has his eyes on nacho, and as a result, on mike too
 
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TheSeks said:
Well, the ones off the top of my head:

-Slippin' Jimmy
-Stealing money from their father (to pay for his law school that he doesn't know)
-Not being there for his mom's death
-Thinking he doesn't make a good lawyer because of Slippin' Jimmy/breaking the law.

But it's mostly that one and family issues that make Chuck resent Jimmy.
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I'm not sure what makes you so sure that that's more of a reason than anything else. I didn't even read that as Chuck being at all upset about Jimmy not being there when their mom died. He was mad that his mom thought only of Jimmy in her final moments. He felt slighted, yet again. All of these things are about building a pattern, no one event is THE reason that Chuck doesn't trust Jimmy. It's a mix of valid reasons and jealousy. They're both flawed people.

zewone said:
Why is Gus randomly in the desert behind Mike at the perfect time? Tell me how that makes sense.
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Why not give them a chance to explain it next season first?
 
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-Pyromaniac-

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Vince Gilligan is a genius man. That answer about why they make shit up as they go was perfect. Even though I think they're being a bit modest.
 
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I think Nacho left the note, everytime he is with Tio he stands behind him. But not the day Mike was going to kill Tio. Feels so weird how Nacho was in the way of Mikes shot the entire time.
 
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Brainfreeze said:
Lol I think the joke is that, apparently, anyone who said they were giving up on the Walking Dead after the previous finale, and then commented in the thread during the following season premiere, was banned.
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As someone that watch old tv seasons on a binge then go to gaf after watching a episode during the time the episode aired (gaf time capsule) I notice this a lot. I think I'll be safe though. I'm never getting banned again. I'm the cool guy.

BMO = GOAT said:
I think Nacho left the note, everytime he is with Tio he stands behind him. But not the day Mike was going to kill Tio. Feels so weird how Nacho was in the way of Mikes shot the entire time.
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Nacho would need teleport powers. It was weird though, but seeing the show people on this Talking Saul explain how they plan for the shows, I don't doubt they just said, "How about we have Nacho stand in the way so he don't shoot. Then he backs off, uh, because Gus taps him on the shoulder and say SonDon'tMan-of-Steel.gif... Yeah we may need to tweak that but that's what we need to make happen."
 
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BMO = GOAT said:
I think Nacho left the note, everytime he is with Tio he stands behind him. But not the day Mike was going to kill Tio. Feels so weird how Nacho was in the way of Mikes shot the entire time.
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i thought that at first too, but when could have he done it? he was at the shack when Mike got his sights on it.
 
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BMO = GOAT said:
I think Nacho left the note, everytime he is with Tio he stands behind him. But not the day Mike was going to kill Tio. Feels so weird how Nacho was in the way of Mikes shot the entire time.
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this seems about right

whenever something like this happens, we stretch our brains too far and come up with ideas that reach a little too far, just like we did with chuck when he hit his head

and then the new episode airs it turns out it was a practical problem and the mysteriousness is swatted like a fly

typical breaking bad stuff
 
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What anagram is the AV Club review referring to?:

(And the likely author of the note, teased with the anagram formed by the episode titles this season, is Breaking Bad fan favorite Gustavo Fring, which constitutes another bombshell few folks could resist dropping before a fade-to-black.)
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Dan said:
Bah. Jimmy got played so easily.
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He just cares about his brother a lot. All it shows is that chuck acts all high and mighty but he's a bigger conman. Even his disease is him conning himself.

How could nacho have teleported to leave the note and put a branch on the car. You guys who think that can't be serious.
 
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BMO = GOAT said:
I think Nacho left the note, everytime he is with Tio he stands behind him. But not the day Mike was going to kill Tio. Feels so weird how Nacho was in the way of Mikes shot the entire time.
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I don't think he could have gotten to Mike's car to leave the note fast enough. I do think he probably knew what he was planning though. It was hard to tell but it kind of looked like he was looking in Mike's direction as he stood between him and Hector
 
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MetalGearZed said:
i thought that at first too, but when could have he done it? he was at the shack when Mike got his sights on it.
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Yea thats what makes it more believable that it was Gus. Also, it was weird how Mike heard the car horn after they all were inside for a while. If its Gus, how did he know what Mike was up to? And also, why would he stop him, Tio dying actually helps Gus business wise.
 
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TheSeks

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Brainfreeze said:
I'm not sure what makes you so sure that that's more of a reason than anything else. I didn't even read that as Chuck being at all upset about Jimmy not being there when their mom died. He was mad that his mom thought only of Jimmy in her final moments. He felt slighted, yet again. All of these things are about building a pattern, no one event is THE reason that Chuck doesn't trust Jimmy. It's a mix of valid reasons and jealousy. They're both flawed people.
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That's what I'm getting at. Everytime Chuck tries to be a good son, Jimmy is the one that takes the spotlight. He actively RESENTS Jimmy, while Jimmy just wants his respect.
 
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GavinGT

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If Gus were watching, why wouldn't he try to stop Mike when he was about to take the shot? Unless Gus was working with Nacho and knew Nacho would block the shot. And also knew that Mike wouldn't just kill Nacho and Tuco with one shot.
 
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