BG3 or Witcher 3?

Which is the better game?

  • Baldurs Gate 3

    Votes: 140 37.0%
  • Witcher 3

    Votes: 238 63.0%

  • Total voters
    378
I like them both for different reasons. Doing a BG3 play through now and love it, one of the best gaming experiences since cyberpunk phantom liberty. But witcher 3 holds a special place in my heart so I have to go with that.
 
You can say that it was talking/watching cutscenes. Half of persona games is talking so it's part of the gameplay, you can skip it obviously in this game but story is integral part of the game so if you don't care about - this title is not for you.
I dont mind the talking and story/side missions etc. Thats all top grade. But combat was subpar for me.
Whereas BG3 I enjoy all the aspects.
 
I don't understand how some say the combat is bad in the Witcher 3. I bet you haven't played the game. When did turned based combat by drawing lines became great combat system? Another thing, BG3 characters and story better than the witcher 3? Lol, you guys are real funny.
 
It's really an impossible question because they are different genre's, it's like asking who's better Roger Federer or Kobe Bryant.
I love them both for completely different reasons.
 
I've had Witcher 3 since it came out and I still haven't bothered to finish the main story yet. Something about it just bores me. I've tried many times to get it going again, but as soon as I hit Skellige, the interest just leaves.

I spent 100 hours in my first complete playthrough of BG3 and immediately started a second run.

BG3 for me.
 
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I think this poll in 2-3 years will be much fairer. Because I see a lot of votes for The Witcher 3 without having played Baldur's Gate 3. Which is normal because it came out much earlier and a lot more people have played it.
 
I think this poll in 2-3 years will be much fairer. Because I see a lot of votes for The Witcher 3 without having played Baldur's Gate 3. Which is normal because it came out much earlier and a lot more people have played it.
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Witcher 3 is way better in every way. Way better and more interesting characters and a better lore. I'll put modded Skyrim above both though with over 1,000 hours and could still go back to it whenever I want and have fun.
 
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BG3 is a true cRPG while The Witcher 3 is more of an action adventure with RPG elements and some branching narratives. I like both for their things. In terms of story, which is highly subjective, I liked TW3 more, but only Heart of Stones and Blood and Wine. Better story than the main game.
 
Witcher 3 for narrative quality by a longshot, BG3 for gameplay by a longshot.


BG3 has comparatively terrible writing and story.
Isn't the best part of bg3 from people on here the story?

I feel like bg3 may be the most overrated and over hyped game GAF has ever stroked up as awesome.

Lots of it seems like random parts are good but the overall cohesive parts are mid. Combat? Mid. Story? Mid. Some cool characters and some fun choices to be made… but across 100+ hours and performance issues in act 3? Seems like a 8/10 game not a game of the generation.

Oddly enough Witcher 3 the consensus is the combat was mid but the story was top shelf.
 
Isn't the best part of bg3 from people on here the story?

I feel like bg3 may be the most overrated and over hyped game GAF has ever stroked up as awesome.

Lots of it seems like random parts are good but the overall cohesive parts are mid. Combat? Mid. Story? Mid. Some cool characters and some fun choices to be made… but across 100+ hours and performance issues in act 3? Seems like a 8/10 game not a game of the generation.

Oddly enough Witcher 3 the consensus is the combat was mid but the story was top shelf.
Anyone who thinks BG3 has a good story has no taste. The story is quite bad and the writing is even worse. But the gameplay and build variety are spectacular, almost unlimited replayability. Much better than Witcher 3's jank-ass combat.
 
Man, this is a tough one

Both are some of the best games ever made, period.

With that said, I think I prefer TW3. It's just much more immersive, imo.

BG 3 is the better game: the amount of choices and gameplay scenarios is just insane. But its structure is too segmented, too gamey.
 
On paper, BG3 does what it does better, but Witcher 3 just beats it out in characters and dialogue for me (not story; important distinction). Only those categories are better in Witcher.

Yet still Witcher 3 is better to me.
 
The major problem I had with BG3 is that it incentivizes you to play "the right way," ie as a hero. If you try to play any other way, you're just locking yourself out of quests and good loot. This isn't the case with W3, with how morally grey most quests are written, it makes the impact of player choices and narrative that much stronger as a result.
TW3 pissed me off when I decided not to give the sick girl at the potions hut the swallow potion because Geralt said it could make her suffering worse so she died and I failed the quest. Didn't feel like that respected my decision.
 
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Too lighthearted, too faux-whimsical, too horny, the setting is a chaotic mess of aliens and shit.
Those are stylistic choices.

That doesn't really mean the writing is (I quote) extraordinarily bad.

Calling Baldur's Gate 3 writing "extraordinarily bad" based on a list of elements that clearly just don't suit your taste isn't a critique; it's a tantrum

Maybe you just want a grimdark fantasy with no color or complexity but that doesn't make Baldur's Gate 3 bad.
 
Those are stylistic choices.

That doesn't really mean the writing is (I quote) extraordinarily bad.

Calling Baldur's Gate 3 writing "extraordinarily bad" based on a list of elements that clearly just don't suit your taste isn't a critique; it's a tantrum

Maybe you just want a grimdark fantasy with no color or complexity but that doesn't make Baldur's Gate 3 bad.
As a big fan of Witcher games i can argue that Baldur's Gate 3 writing is better simply for the fact that it uses video games as a vessel for storytelling in a better way, especially as a RPG, BG3 writing is way more dynamic and reactive and there is a lot of companions that feel more fleshed out and reactive as well, thats clearly a point in BG3 favor.

Amateurs always think that writing = plot and thats a clear misconception, it took me a lot of time playing and analyzing games to realize that writing isn't just main plot.
Even going with that the main plot of Witcher 3 isn't any better or worse than the main plot of BG3, its just more serious and takes itself seriously but at the end of the day both are about a group of people saving the world from bad people.
This generic and simple approach to the main plot allows both games to fixate on better things.
-In the case of Witcher 3 its the worldbuilding and Quests being narratively driven and cinematic in an immersive and atmospheric way, for CDPR immersion and atmosphere are top priority
-In the case of Baldur's Gate 3 its the RPG mechanics, the quest design and how dynamic and reactive the dialogue is, companions play a bigger role in that as well, for Larian game design comes first and the story reflects that, if you played Divinity games you will notice that Larian doesn't take itself or its stories too seriously and there is a lot of lighthearted and hilarious moments in between, this allows Larian to fixate on gameplay and make a gamey ass game just like majority of Zelda games for example.

I think in general CDPR team is better at writing, but its really a different philosophy at play here, yeah Witcher has better writing if you look at it as a movie/book, but if you look at it as a videogame you can make the opposite argument and it would be just as valid.


True. I fucked your mom with my shit taste and look where that got me…
What the fuck is this kindergarten shit? :messenger_expressionless:
 
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BG3 has comparatively terrible writing and story.

Agreed to disagree. The bloody baron drove me crazy "Do one more thing for me and then I'll tell you more" drove me crazy. Then having to find that bards gf and all the women he slept with holy shit was that boring. I wont even get into the combat that's been universally panned by almost everyone. I loved The Witcher 2 but I couldn't get into 3 and dropped it after 20 hours. Somehow a story about Siri turned into a story about a bunch of shit I don't care about. All that stuff would have been fine as side quest, but as a main quest it was garbage.

Now with BG3 the combat was fantastic and the story was at least interesting and fun and constantly moving\updating.

Also as far as RPGs goes BG3 is without a doubt the better RPG game.

BG3 wins by default.
I've tried to play Witcher 3, 4 times over the years and have never once made it past the bloody baron.

Not surprised I had to force myself to make it past that section. I can't believe they started the game off with some boring shit like that. The Witcher 2 had much better pacing.
 
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I've never played BG3 and I never will. The aesthetics look terrible. I hate it even more than The Veilguard.
It's the same type of art disgust I feel when I see CalArts style in artwork.

The Witcher 3 is not an RPG. It's an action adventure game. It was a shock to me how dull and boring the open-world of the game was, given the praise and all the awards. Combat is even worse.

So, my pick would have to be TES IV: Oblivion or Gothic 2/Gothic 3.
 
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The Witcher 3 is not an RPG. It's an action adventure game. It was a shock to me how dull and boring the open-world of the game was, given the praise and all the awards. Combat is even worse.

So, my pick would have to be TES IV: Oblivion or Gothic 2/Gothic 3.
Curious to read why you think Oblivion is RPG and Witcher 3 isn't RPG, can you elaborate on that?
 
Curious to read why you think Oblivion is RPG and Witcher 3 isn't RPG, can you elaborate on that?

It's very simple. The game doesn't allow me to shape Geralt in any meaningful, interactive way that serves role-playing.
There are many others, but that's the main sin the game commits.
 
Well, let's see...

I've put in maybe a total of around 15 hours into TW3, years ago.

While I'm currently approaching 900+ hours into BG3.

I'll leave it at that.
 
900? Doing what?
Exploring every possibility the game has to offer.
For example. I'm current making an effort to try to see how things play out, using only "hirelings" as companions, while leaving out the Origin characters (probably won't change anything).
Also, playing with so many mods.
 
It's very simple. The game doesn't allow me to shape Geralt in any meaningful, interactive way that serves role-playing.
There are many others, but that's the main sin the game commits.
And Oblivion does?
Pretty sure any character you make in Oblivion does not matter, you will end up doing the same things on every character.
Like talking about the story, does the story react and change based on your new characters? does it open a new path for the story for you based on that character you created? the answer is an emphatic no.
Even choices wise, the main story of Oblivion will always be the same thing no matter what kind of character you create.
Even gameplay wise your "assassins" character will play out the same way as a Warrior that play like an assassin (because classes dont matter in the game), so in the end its just all mechanics grouped together and its up to you to imagine it in your head.
By this logic a game like Asscreed becomes RPG since you can be stealthy and approach a combat scenario in 2 different ways.
 
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And Oblivion does?
Pretty sure any character you make in Oblivion does not matter, you will end up doing the same things on every character.
Like talking about the story, does the story react and change based on your new characters? does it open a new path for the story for you based on that character you created? the answer is an emphatic no.
Even choices wise, the main story of Oblivion will always be the same thing no matter what kind of character you create.
Even gameplay wise your "assassins" character will play out the same way as a Warrior that play like an assassin (because classes dont matter in the game), so in the end its just all mechanics grouped together and its up to you to imagine it in your head.
By this logic a game like Asscreed becomes RPG since you can be stealthy and approach a combat scenario in 2 different ways.

Hey, that's totally cool. I am not trying to make you change your mind. We all have different standards for what is an RPG.
 
As a big fan of Witcher games i can argue that Baldur's Gate 3 writing is better simply for the fact that it uses video games as a vessel for storytelling in a better way, especially as a RPG, BG3 writing is way more dynamic and reactive and there is a lot of companions that feel more fleshed out and reactive as well, thats clearly a point in BG3 favor.

Amateurs always think that writing = plot and thats a clear misconception, it took me a lot of time playing and analyzing games to realize that writing isn't just main plot.
Even going with that the main plot of Witcher 3 isn't any better or worse than the main plot of BG3, its just more serious and takes itself seriously but at the end of the day both are about a group of people saving the world from bad people.
This generic and simple approach to the main plot allows both games to fixate on better things.
-In the case of Witcher 3 its the worldbuilding and Quests being narratively driven and cinematic in an immersive and atmospheric way, for CDPR immersion and atmosphere are top priority
-In the case of Baldur's Gate 3 its the RPG mechanics, the quest design and how dynamic and reactive the dialogue is, companions play a bigger role in that as well, for Larian game design comes first and the story reflects that, if you played Divinity games you will notice that Larian doesn't take itself or its stories too seriously and there is a lot of lighthearted and hilarious moments in between, this allows Larian to fixate on gameplay and make a gamey ass game just like majority of Zelda games for example.

I think in general CDPR team is better at writing, but its really a different philosophy at play here, yeah Witcher has better writing if you look at it as a movie/book, but if you look at it as a videogame you can make the opposite argument and it would be just as valid.

Baldurs Gate 3 - better RPG

Witcher 3 - better writing

A game that has better writing usually means I am interested in characters, lore, their stories etc.

In BG3, one companion eats magical weapons cause he has a orb inside him. Another one is going to explode cause she has heat engine inside her. So on and so forth.

Compare this to Triss, Yennefer, Dandelion etc which are far more charismatic, established characters. That maybe cause characters are from a novel, but they are very well developed if you read their backstory in game.

I do feel overall writing is merely ok in BG3 cause when its not doing weird stuff, it isn't interesting either for me to pay attention. I would rate it similar to something like Starfield, that isn't story driven game.
 
Curious to read why you think Oblivion is RPG and Witcher 3 isn't RPG, can you elaborate on that?
Oblivion is not story driven game. Its a sand box.

Its character development makes it RPG.

You do thief stuff, become better thief. Do athletic stuff, increase your stamina etc.

It is more rpg than story driven games in my books.

People might disagree, am ok with that.
 
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