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Bicycle age

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Doing a 72 mile ride around lake Tahoe tomorrow. 7000ft elevation, luckily only 4000ft total elevation gain, but I have never done more than 35 miles and that was all at sea level.

Needless to say, I might need the loser bus to pick me up.

Have you at least been up there a ouple of days to acclimatize?
 

Mascot

Member
Woo-hoo! New computer arrived today. It's basic, but great! Shows speed, distance and ride time all at once on a giant display. I don't need anything else. For £18 I'm chuffed to bits. Needs a slight recalibration (it read about half a mile high on a ~32-miler) and I had to bar mount it (couldn't fit it securely on my Tharsis stem) but apart from that it's perfect. No doubt I'll find the old one tomorrow now.

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Teggy

Member
Intended to do a 48 mile ride today. Right at the start I hit a pothole so hard one of my water bottles went flying, so I immediately lost the group retrieving it. I also didn't realize until several miles later that the valve had popped off. The ride went into 5 or so miles with 1000 feet of climbing and when I hit mile 12 my body basically told me to fuck off. Routed a much more pleasant 15 miles back to the car. I definitely need to stick to <30 mile rides for a bit while I build up my stamina, and pay attention to the elevation profiles.
 

Mascot

Member
Intended to do a 48 mile ride today. Right at the start I hit a pothole so hard one of my water bottles went flying, so I immediately lost the group retrieving it. I also didn't realize until several miles later that the valve had popped off. The ride went into 5 or so miles with 1000 feet of climbing and when I hit mile 12 my body basically told me to fuck off. Routed a much more pleasant 15 miles back to the car. I definitely need to stick to <30 mile rides for a bit while I build up my stamina, and pay attention to the elevation profiles.

I've always wondered why roadies don't use Camelbaks..?
 
Apart from a backpack being hot, the traditional cycling jersey already has three pockets in the back. And personally, I've discovered that long efforts with a backpack give me lower back pain. Periodical stretching can help, but for me one of the charms of road riding is that you build up stamina and then you can cover large distances with your bike without stopping.
 
Lol, I must admit - I never even considered refills..!

It's a different mindset. On a road ride you're generally passing shops etc fairly regularly. On a mountain bike ride you take everything you need, or risk being in a bad state by the end of the day.
 

Laekon

Member
Lol, I must admit - I never even considered refills..!

Parks, public schools, guard houses of gated communities, and a bunch of other places have water fountains you can use. I have a friend who seems to have every water source in the Santa Monica mountains memorized.

Plus water stops provide some of the few reasons to stop on a road ride unlike mtn bike rides where you can stop at almost ever trail intersection or top of long climbs.
 

HTupolev

Member
I've always wondered why roadies don't use Camelbaks..?
1-Back heat.
2-Back pain.
3-The rules.
4-They're more annoying to clean, especially if you're not using plain water.
5-Pocket obstruction.

Intended to do a 48 mile ride today. Right at the start I hit a pothole so hard one of my water bottles went flying
That sounds really bad. Check your rims and fork for bends or cracks. Also see if your wheels have been banged out of true.
 
Plus water stops provide some of the few reasons to stop on a road ride unlike mtn bike rides where you can stop at almost ever trail intersection or top of long climbs.
Stopping? I've heard of it.

Once I get going I usually only stop once I'm out of water (probably around four hours depending on the heat).

Oh, and those first two on the camelbak list are long gone with modern designs. 5 is irrelevant too with the hip pouch sort as they basically replace your pockets.
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
Walking back from the bar last night I saw a Bianchi locked up on the street. Hopefully it's owner was at the nearby bar or something watching it.
 

Mascot

Member
Oh, and those first two on the camelbak list are long gone with modern designs. 5 is irrelevant too with the hip pouch sort as they basically replace your pockets.
Number 4 (cleaning) is a non-issue too if you refill it after your ride and put the whole thing straight in the fridge.

Helps if you have two fridges, as it takes up a good bit of space with the pump and spare tubes in there...
 
I freeze mine. Pretty much the same deal.

Unrelated... what a downer. Amazing weather, but had an utterly awful ride today. Trail was totally shit. Best part of it was a climb, which should pretty much say all that needs to be said.

Worse, I replaced one of my chainrings with the wrong type and got the chain stuck between the inner and outer rings. :(
 

HTupolev

Member
Worse, I replaced one of my chainrings with the wrong type and got the chain stuck between the inner and outer rings. :(
Ouch!

There's a lot of weirdness that can happen with chain and ring types. On my '79 6-speed triple, if you use a particularly narrow 8-speed chain, occasionally the chain won't engage all the way to the middle ring when you derail it from the big ring; instead, it'll be where the outside plates are rubbing against the inside of the big ring and the inside plates are sort of riding on top of the middle ring. But this can be fixed by simply moving the FD a bit farther to the inside and continuing to pedal.

Having the chain actually slip between the rings sounds nasty; without any drive force on it, I hope it at least wasn't jamming itself down there, but just resting disengaged?
 

Teggy

Member
Last night I went on a little Amazon binge and bought a mechanic's stand, bike wash stuff and a torque wrench. I found a good video online about adjusting the 105 FD and I'm going to give a go at making my trim work correctly. Hopefully it won't result in me at the bike shop asking them to undo all my damage :)
 
Having the chain actually slip between the rings sounds nasty; without any drive force on it, I hope it at least wasn't jamming itself down there, but just resting disengaged?

No, it was flat out jammed in there. I could only get it out by wrenching with both hands, and getting my riding partner to backpedal at the same time.

Vaguely related, with the hill repeats I was doing, I apparently ended up doing 4 more miles than him (24.6m vs 20.4m).
 

Yaboosh

Super Sleuth
72 miles done. Twice as far as i have ever been. The elevation was a nonfactor and the ride itself was pretty easy. We stopped at rest stops every 15 miles though.

Still, it was a nice ride.
 
Hey, nice to find a big biking community here on gaf.

My brother and I started hitting up a nice singletrack here in Houston late last year, and mountain biking has become our obsession.

Haven't been able to ride in a over a month since all the flooding, and some parts are still under.

It's going to take a few work parties to get the trails ride-able again.

So anyways, we bought some hardtail bikes to dip our toes into the scene, but want to get a full-suspension at the end of the year, any recommendations under $2,500?
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Hey, nice to find a big biking community here on gaf.

My brother and I started hitting up a nice singletrack here in Houston late last year, and mountain biking has become our obsession.

Haven't been able to ride in a over a month since all the flooding, and some parts are still under.

It's going to take a few work parties to get the trails ride-able again.

So anyways, we bought some hardtail bikes to dip our toes into the scene, but want to get a full-suspension at the end of the year, any recommendations under $2,500?

What's the hill situation like in Houston? To me the geology seems like hardtail heaven.
 
What's the hill situation like in Houston? To me the geology seems like hardtail heaven.

My local track has some elevation changes but nothing like long uphill stretches, here's a few vids of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zLnswa93_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ3kZTMWawo

They've added a lot more jumps in the past year too, and I also want to head over to Austin to try out some of trails there.

My Tokul 2 is has been a great beginner bike for now.
 

Mascot

Member
Hey, nice to find a big biking community here on gaf.

My brother and I started hitting up a nice singletrack here in Houston late last year, and mountain biking has become our obsession.

Haven't been able to ride in a over a month since all the flooding, and some parts are still under.

It's going to take a few work parties to get the trails ride-able again.

So anyways, we bought some hardtail bikes to dip our toes into the scene, but want to get a full-suspension at the end of the year, any recommendations under $2,500?

Welcome to CycleGAF, fellow mountain biker. We're outnumbered by the Jimmies roadies by fifty to one but they are quite a friendly bunch really.

Those trails look like fun - that's exactly the type of terrain I love riding locally.
 
You can just hit restart though!

Seriously though if VR can get to a point of being properly immersive and not just a screen with Google Map images updating it'd be pretty nice. Half the reason I go insane indoors is because of this.
 

Fou-Lu

Member
I am moving to a city which is much flatter and has a lot of bike lanes and paths. I would love to be able cycle around the city instead of busing for part of the year. Unfortunately I know pretty much nothing about bikes and haven't owned or ridden one in about ten years. Where do I look to buy a bike? What costs should I expect? What kind of bike should I consider? What should I know about city riding? Is it even a good idea?
 

HTupolev

Member
Where do I look to buy a bike? What costs should I expect?
If you're unsure, go to a local bike shop (LBS). Bike shops are the most expensive option for getting a given bicycle in your hands, but:
1-You can try out different things on the spot.
2-You'll get fitted.
3-They'll service any early problems free of charge, and the purchase typically comes with one tune-up for correcting for the breaking-in process.

Lowest-end LBS bikes typically fall in the $300-$400 range. At this price point you can get heavy beach cruisers and super-upright hybrid/mountain-bike/cruiser thingies. Doesn't take much more than that to get a perfectly good single-speed bike. And for double that you can get a reasonable, if basic, multi-speed entry-level road racing bike.
Diminishing returns set in quickly. For $15,000 you can get an 11-pound 22-speed fancy-schmancy carbon-fiber high-performance machine that feels tighter and will get you to the top of a hill a few seconds faster.

In addition to the bicycle itself, people often wind up wanting to change saddle for fit reasons. Basic replacement saddles could run $30-$60 or so.

Most entry-level bikes come with cheapo platform pedals. These more or less do the job, and plenty of people are fine with them.
Some people wind up wanting grippier platform pedals. There are various options, notably pedals that have set screws sticking out of them that dig into your sole. These will also draw blood if any part of you so much as grazes said set screws, but that's part of the fun! Expect to lose another $40-$100 dollars if you decide to go down this route.
Some people wind up wanting to use "clipless" pedals (which do the opposite of what the name sounds), where you have a cleat on your shoe that clips into the pedal, securing your foot to the cranks. This is nice in that, if the cleat has been positioned correctly on your shoe, you can ride your bike without thinking about foot contact or positioning. If you decide to go down this route, you might be looking at something like $30-$120 for the pedals+cleats and $50-$120 for the shoe. The downside of these is that you're using a cycling-specific shoe: there are "mountain bike" pedal options like SPD where the cleat sits into the shoe and walking feels mostly normal-ish, but there are also "road bike" pedal options like SPD-SL where the cleat sticks out from the shoe and walking is a bit clunky. So this needs to be kept in mind for commuting (i.e. do you carry an extra pair of shoes with you to work).

Other things:

Bottle cages could run you $10-$20 each depending on whether you get basic metal ones or fancy-schmancy nylon ones.

You should get some manner of repair kit, enough to adjust basic things on your bike and repair flats. This means a multitool with at least screwdrivers and hex keys, tire levers, a spare tube, tube patches, a saddle bag to shove this stuff in, and either a pump or a CO2 setup. Some LBSs sell basic kits containing basically all of this for around $50. If you want to pick out fancier tools and a higher-quality saddle bag, this can quickly run you over $100.

What kind of bike should I consider?
Depends on what you care about and what you think you might wind up doing with it.

If your city doesn't have have lots of steep hills and you want a machine that's simple and reliable and requires minimal maintenance, an urban single-speed might be your thing.

What should I know about city riding? Is it even a good idea?
It can be intimidating, depending on where you're going and in what city. You'll want to learn your roads. But it's good exercise and, depending on when you're riding, can be faster than taking a car.
 
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